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MimiHitam
24-11-06, 04:40
klo ada britanya silahkan pos disini ^0^

chickenheart
30-11-06, 21:03
Kok (Iraq-Iran-Korut) disebut poros *****???
maaf malah bertanya

MimiHitam
01-12-06, 01:45
Axis of evil



Bush's "axis of evil" includes Iran, Iraq, and North Korea (darker red).
"Beyond the Axis of Evil" includes Cuba, Libya, and Syria (lighter red)"Axis of Evil" as described by George W. Bush:
Iraq
Iran
North Korea
"Beyond the Axis of Evil" as described by John R. Bolton:
Cuba
Libya
Syria

The term "Axis of evil" was used by United States President George W. Bush in his State of the Union Address on January 29, 2002 to describe regimes that purportedly sponsor terrorism and seek weapons of mass destruction. Bush named Iraq, Iran, and North Korea in his speech.

Contents [hide]
1 The phrase
2 Origins of the phrase
3 "Beyond the Axis of Evil"
4 Criticism of the term
5 Other uses
6 See also
7 External links



[edit] The phrase
The phrase is derived from that of the rogue state, but the term itself is reminiscent of the Axis Powers of World War II and of President Ronald Reagan's evil empire designation for the Soviet Union.

Bush's exact statement was as follows:

[Our goal] is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction. Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since September the 11th. But we know their true nature. North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens.

Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Irainian people's hope for freedom.

Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax, and nerve gas, and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens—leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections—then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.

States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.

—George W. Bush, 2002 State of the Union Address

In 1994, the United States and North Korea had entered into the "Agreed Framework" to defuse the issue of the North Korean nuclear program. Neither party held to this agreement during the Clinton Administration, and most experts believe North Korea had acquired one or two nuclear weapons before Bush took office. The year after Bush's speech, North Korea withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Later in 2003, several right-wing political strategists (the neoconservatives, led by Richard Perle) favored by the Bush Administration called for military strikes in North Korea against its nuclear sites. [1] In 2006, North Korea claimed to have tested a nuclear weapon. US and Russian tests appeared to confirm these claims.


[edit] Origins of the phrase
Shortly after its utterance, the phrase was attributed to former Bush speechwriter David Frum, originally as the "axis of hatred" and then "evil". Frum explained his rationale for creating the phrase "axis of evil" in his book The Right Man: The Surprise Presidency of George W. Bush. Essentially, the story begins in late December 2001 when head speechwriter Mike Gerson gave Frum the assignment of articulating the case for dislodging the government of Saddam Hussein in Iraq in only a few sentences for the upcoming State of the Union address. Frum says he began by rereading President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "date that will live in infamy" speech given on December 8, 1941, after the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. While Americans needed no convincing about going to war with Japan, Roosevelt saw the greater threat to the United States coming from Germany, and he had to make the case for fighting a two-ocean war.

Frum points to a now often-overlooked sentence in Roosevelt's speech which reads in part, "...we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again." Frum interprets Roosevelt's oratory like this: "For FDR, Pearl Harbor was not only an attack—it was a warning of future and worse attacks from another, even more dangerous enemy." Japan, a country with one-tenth of America's industrial capacity, a dependence on imports for all its food, and already engaged in a war with China, was extremely reckless to attack the United States, a recklessness "that made the Axis such a menace to world peace", Frum says. Saddam Hussein's two wars, against Iran and Kuwait, were just as reckless, Frum believed, and therefore presented the same threat to world peace.

The more he compared the Axis powers of World War II to modern "terror states", the more similarities he saw. "The Axis powers disliked and distrusted one another", Frum writes. "Had the Axis somehow won the war, its members would quickly have turned on one another." Iran, Iraq, al-Qaeda, and Hezbollah, despite quarrelling among themselves however, "all resented power of the West and Israel, and they all despised the humane values of democracy." There, Frum saw the connection: "Together, the terror states and the terror organizations formed an axis of hatred against the United States."

Frum sent off a memo with the above arguments and also cited some of the atrocities perpetrated by the Iraqi government. He expected his words to be chopped apart and altered beyond recognition, as is the fate of much presidential speechwriting, but his words were ultimately read by Bush nearly verbatim. His term "axis of hatred" had been changed to "axis of evil" to match the theological language used by Bush since the September 11, 2001 attacks. North Korea was added to the list, he says, because it was attempting to develop nuclear weapons, had a history of reckless aggression, and "needed to feel a stronger hand."

A decade before the 2002 State of the Union address, in August 1992, the neoconservative pundit Yossef Bodansky wrote a paper entitled "Tehran, Baghdad & Damascus: The New Axis Pact" [2] while serving as a staffer for a conservative House caucus. Although he did not explicitly apply the epithet "evil" to his New Axis, Bodansky's axis was otherwise very reminiscent of Frum's axis. Bodansky felt that this new Axis was a very dangerous development. The gist of Bodansky's argument was that Iran, Iraq and Syria had formed a "tripartite alliance" in the wake of Gulf War I, and that this alliance posed an imminent threat which could only be dealt with by invading Iraq a second time and overthrowing Saddam Hussein. (Exactly what the second President Bush did in 2003.) In a subsequent September 1992 paper, "Iran's European Springboard" [3], Bodansky argued that Iran and the other members of the New Axis were using the Muslim community in Bosnia and elsewhere in Yugoslavia "as a springboard for the launching of a jihad in Europe." (President Clinton did eventually intervene in the former Yugoslavia. However, Clinton intervened on the side of the Muslims, halting the Serbian ethnic cleansing, i.e., he did the opposite of what Bodansky advocated.)


[edit] "Beyond the Axis of Evil"

John R. BoltonOn May 6, 2002 United States under Secretary of State John R. Bolton (now U.N. Ambassador by recess appointment) gave a speech entitled "Beyond the Axis of Evil." In it he added three more nations to be grouped with the already mentioned "rogue states": Libya, Syria, and Cuba. The criteria for membership in this group were: "state sponsors of terrorism that are pursuing or who have the potential to pursue weapons of mass destruction (WMD) or have the capability to do so in violation of their treaty obligations." The speech was widely reported as an expansion of the original Axis of Evil. The allegation of Cuban WMD capability was particularly strenuously denied by the Cuban government, and disputed by former President Jimmy Carter who visited the country a week later after being briefed by US officials.

In 2003 Libya began to make policy changes with the open intention of pursuing a Western-Libyan détente. The Libyan government announced its decision to abandon its weapons of mass destruction programmes and pay almost 3 billion US dollars in compensation to the families of Pan Am flight 103 as well as UTA flight 772.[30]

Since 2003 the country has restored normal diplomatic ties with the European Union and the United States and has even coined the catchphrase, 'The Libya Model', an example intended to show the world what can be achieved through negotiation rather than force when there is goodwill on both sides.[31]

In January 2005, at the beginning of Bush's second term as President, the incoming Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, made a speech regarding the newly termed "Outposts of tyranny," a list of six countries deemed most dangerous and anti-American. This included the two remaining "Axis" members, as well as Cuba, Belarus, Zimbabwe and Myanmar.

In January 2006, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz implicated "the axis of terror that operates between Iran and Syria" following a suicide bomb in Tel Aviv. [4] The phrase axis of terror earned more publicity in April 2006 when Israel's UN Ambassador, Dan Gillerman, cautioned of a new "axis of terror" — Iran, Syria and the Hamas-run Palestinian government; Gillerman repeated the term before the UN over the crisis in Lebanon. [5] Some three months later Israeli senior foreign ministry official Gideon Meir branded the alleged alliance an "axis of terror and hate". [6]


[edit] Criticism of the term
One criticism is that unlike the Axis powers, the three nations mentioned in Bush's speech have not been coordinating public policy, and therefore the term axis is incorrect. However, during North Korea's missiles tests on July 4, 2006, Iranian diplomats were present to witness the tests.[7] Iran and Iraq fought the long, bloody Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s, under basically the same leadership as that which existed at the time of Bush's speech. Additionally, it is argued that each of the three have some special characteristics which are obscured by grouping them together. Anne Applebaum has written about the debate over North Korea's inclusion in the group.[8]

Furthermore, other information Bush cited in his state of the union address — primarily dealing with Iraq and its alleged Weapons of mass destruction and terror ties — have been shown to be false, by Senate-appointed committee investigations. Moreover, the bulk of the arguments dealing with the axis of evil members have been shown to be dependent on factually flawed information.[9]


[edit] Other uses

The Economist, May 11, 2006By analogy to "axis of evil", the term "axis of the willing" has occasionally been applied to the "coalition of the willing" (for countries that participated in the 2003 invasion of Iraq).

The term has also lent itself to various parodies, including "axis of weasels" (mocking certain countries that did not support USA on Iraq issue), "Axis of Eve" (a political action group that opposes Bush), "axis of medieval" (mockingly criticizes the influence that Bush's personal Christian faith has on his political views), "asses of evil" (a mocking insult against Bush, **** Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld), "axles of evil" (denouncing sport utility vehicles for their poor fuel efficiency), and several other variations. Serj Tankian, lead singer for the group System of a Down and Tom Morello, guitarist and former guitarist for Audioslave and Rage Against the Machine (respectively) founded a political action group called the "Axis of Justice." Andrew Marlatt wrote an extensive parody [10] for SatireWire, with the rule: "An axis can't have more than three countries." The term is now becoming so popular that the term Axis of Evil is now considered three people or things that are a menace or a nuisance. The Economist ran a 2006 (May 13-19) cover headline titled "Axis of Feeble" about the end of the George Bush-Tony Blair partnership. [11]

Hugo Chávez, President of Venezuela, has described "Washington and its allies" as an "axis of evil," in contrast to an "axis of good" comprising Venezuela, Cuba, and Bolivia (all three countries now governed by leftist leaders.) [12]

In Star Wars Labyrinth of Evil, in an apparent lampoon of the Bush administration, Supreme Chancellor Palpatine uses the term the "Triad of Evil"[13] when referring to the planets Felucia, Mygeeto, and Saleucami.

The term axis was applied previously during the Clinton Administration In 1998 by conservative journalist Joseph Farah a critic of Clinton's political maneuvering.[14].

jollygunz
01-12-06, 20:53
Iraq-Iran-Korut disebut "Poros *****".... hmmm...
trus AS-Israel-UE disebut apaan?? Poros Maling kaleee yeee.... :D

MimiHitam
01-12-06, 21:02
AS-Israel-Inggris tepatnya!
Prancis kan dah kaga ikut2 lagi takut jadi target *******. wa bilang sih poros ***** pake baju malaikat *_*

Trademaks
03-12-06, 16:12
Istilah 'poros *****' ditunjukkan untuk negara Iran, Irak, dan Korea Utara. Namun belakangan, cakupan 'poros *****' ini diluaskan lagi sehingga menjangkau Kuba, Suriah, dan Libia. Namun mayoritas negara yang masuk dalam jangkauan istilah tersebut adalah negara berpenduduk mayoritas Muslim. Ditambah lagi, Iran adalah negara yang secara tegas menyebut sebagai republik Islam. Karena itu, sebutan 'poros *****' menjadi ikut memasukkan sejumlah besar komunitas Muslim di dalamnya.



www.zaman.com --media internet berbasis di Istanbul--, Sahin Alpay, menyebut bahwa AS dan Israel lah yang menjadi the real axis of evil. Keduanya memang telah bersekutu secara kuat untuk mengacaukan dunia Islam.

MimiHitam
03-12-06, 16:52
mang korut sama kuba muslim kk???? kaga kan!

$ter
03-12-06, 17:17
zzzzzzzz udah ah ngurusin diri sendiri aja kaga benar ingat2 jangan ampe emosi terpancing membela sesuatu yang belum tentu membela kita....

Itu mau poros ***** , mau maling mau amrik, mau ****, mau iran gw kaga urusannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn sumpahhhhhhhhhh

GW mau urusin diri gw sendiri ::roflmao::

MimiHitam
03-12-06, 17:18
zzzzzzzz udah ah ngurusin diri sendiri aja kaga benar ingat2 jangan ampe emosi terpancing membela sesuatu yang belum tentu membela kita....

Itu mau poros ***** , mau maling mau amrik, mau ****, mau iran gw kaga urusannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn sumpahhhhhhhhhh

GW mau urusin diri gw sendiri

but indo tuh politik bebas aktif. arus sering2 gini >.<

MimiHitam
03-12-06, 17:19
Hugo Chávez, President of Venezuela, has described "Washington and its allies" as an "axis of evil," in contrast to an "axis of good"
SETUJU SEKALI poros ***** yang berpakaian kostum poros baik

Trademaks
04-12-06, 04:58
zzzzzzzz udah ah ngurusin diri sendiri aja kaga benar ingat2 jangan ampe emosi terpancing membela sesuatu yang belum tentu membela kita....

Itu mau poros ***** , mau maling mau amrik, mau ****, mau iran gw kaga urusannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn sumpahhhhhhhhhh

GW mau urusin diri gw sendiri ::roflmao::


Inilah rumitnya, kadang-kadang kita memiliki perbedaan-perbedaan di dalam menjelaskan posisi resmi pemerintahan dan respon-respon public.
Bahkan akhir-akhir ini kita melihat fenomena menakjubkan, daripada waktu-waktu yang lalu, bahwa semua kelompok-kelompok politik dari kanan ke kiri, nasionalis dan islamis telah berkerjasama melalui front yang sama menghadapi reaksi-reaksi ini.

::ole3::

MimiHitam
04-12-06, 05:04
eh ada poll ya pilih aksis ***** korut - iran - iraq ato poros ***** ber baju malaikat as dan sekutunya?

chickenheart
06-12-06, 20:00
pertanyaannya sekarang siapakah "axis of evil" dan siapakah "axis of good". untuk menjustifikasi sesuatu diperlukan fakta2 yang konkrit, iraq di tuding sebagai biang ******* dan mempunyai senjata pemusnah massal, iran dan korut dituding sedang mencoba meningkatkan kekuatan pesenjataan nuklirnya, AS Punya Nuklir,
keputusan yang salah dengan menginvasi iraq dan akibatnya sekarang iraq sedang dalam perang saudara, israel jelas2 melanggar perjanjian damai dengan palestina dengan menginvasi wilayah2 palestina lebih dulu, inggris mendukung apa saja yang dilakukan oleh AS.

MimiHitam
06-12-06, 21:00
pertanyaannya sekarang siapakah "axis of evil" dan siapakah "axis of good". untuk menjustifikasi sesuatu diperlukan fakta2 yang konkrit, iraq di tuding sebagai biang ******* dan mempunyai senjata pemusnah massal, iran dan korut dituding sedang mencoba meningkatkan kekuatan pesenjataan nuklirnya, AS Punya Nuklir,
keputusan yang salah dengan menginvasi iraq dan akibatnya sekarang iraq sedang dalam perang saudara, israel jelas2 melanggar perjanjian damai dengan palestina dengan menginvasi wilayah2 palestina lebih dulu, inggris mendukung apa saja yang dilakukan oleh AS.
axis of good itu ga ada. kata hugo chavez pun as dan sekutunya axis of evil yang berbaju axis of good....

kenapa India dan Pakistan boleh nuklir, korut tidak? iran untuk uranium tidak? padahal dah menandatangani blok anti nuklir

AcanthaZ
06-12-06, 22:45
Iran-Korut-Irak = Poros negara Nuklir mau berkembang
As-Ingris-Israel = poros Negara Maju yg kaya

indonesia- - = ga tau poros mana

MimiHitam
06-12-06, 23:11
Iran-Korut-Irak = Poros negara Nuklir mau berkembang
As-Ingris-Israel = poros Negara Maju yg kaya

indonesia- - = ga tau poros mana
ralat!
Iran - Korut (irak ga ada kan dituduh) = poros negara nuklir mau berkembang
As- Inggris - Israel - Australia = poros negara maju kaya yang berbaju malaikat tapi hatinya iblis

Indonesia = anggota poros negara berkembang

ekspresi
25-12-06, 14:21
zzzzzzzz udah ah ngurusin diri sendiri aja kaga benar ingat2 jangan ampe emosi terpancing membela sesuatu yang belum tentu membela kita....

Itu mau poros ***** , mau maling mau amrik, mau ****, mau iran gw kaga urusannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn sumpahhhhhhhhhh

GW mau urusin diri gw sendiri ::roflmao::

sory ye om jgn egois dunk memang sih belum tentu mereka bela kita tapi kan gmn2 sbagai bentuk rasa kemanusiaan kita harus bela yg benar lah (beuh),belum lagi masa si loe kaga sebel liat cara USA dkk::fyou:: yg kaya gitu

Weryu
15-01-07, 04:59
axis of good itu ga ada. kata hugo chavez pun as dan sekutunya axis of evil yang berbaju axis of good....

kenapa India dan Pakistan boleh nuklir, korut tidak? iran untuk uranium tidak? padahal dah menandatangani blok anti nuklir


Masalanya begini ya kk
Untuk Negara yang Boleh memiliki Tentara,Alat Perang,Nuklir.Adalah negara yang pernah dijajah oleh bangsa lain.
Misalnya Perancis pernah dijajah iInggris,Pakistan india pernah dijajah juga kan?
****?pernah dijaha Jepang kan?Dengan alibi tersebut Negara yg hbs Merdeka langsung Hancur2an Mempersenjatai/Memperkuat negara2 Masing2.
Tapiiii...........
Hal itu tidak berlaku buat negara yang Pernah Menjajah bangsa lain.
Misalnya Jepang...G punya Tentara kan?adanya polisi doank
Jerman???Banyak Pesawat boingnya drpd tanknya AHuhauahau

Inggris??? << nih curang bgt SEKUTU ABADINYA AMRIK!!

Weryu
15-01-07, 05:00
Oh ya maaf 2 post
Iran g boleh punya nuklir kan dl masalahnya Pernah Berperang ma Irak<dibantu dgn sekutunya USA and Arab Saudi>.
Nah tau kan Akibatnya?Embargo dehh

Tyr
15-01-07, 17:45
pertanyaannya sekarang siapakah "axis of evil" dan siapakah "axis of good". untuk menjustifikasi sesuatu diperlukan fakta2 yang konkrit, iraq di tuding sebagai biang ******* dan mempunyai senjata pemusnah massal, iran dan korut dituding sedang mencoba meningkatkan kekuatan pesenjataan nuklirnya, AS Punya Nuklir,
keputusan yang salah dengan menginvasi iraq dan akibatnya sekarang iraq sedang dalam perang saudara, israel jelas2 melanggar perjanjian damai dengan palestina dengan menginvasi wilayah2 palestina lebih dulu, inggris mendukung apa saja yang dilakukan oleh AS.

There is no good nor evil ,
there all based on the relativity
semuanya relativ bila dilihat lihat dari setiap sisinya n yg membuat rumit lagi pemegang kekuatan terbesarlah yang selalu dapat mengambil alih dan juga memutar balikan fakta

anders
16-01-07, 08:54
klo menurut gw isitlah "poros *****" hanya provokasi atau hanya sebuah tuduhan pihak USA dengan sekutunya aja tuh,tujuan nya ya untuk menghancur negara tsb sama spt yg dilakukan USA terhadap irak , ini menurut pendapat gw loh ,ga tau ya klo kalian ...hehehe...:p

MimiHitam
16-01-07, 22:55
bkn dihancurkan tapi takut klo dia tersaingi gtu2

Weryu
18-01-07, 22:54
Tersaingi?gak salah kk mimi?Negara Irak Iran Afganistan Kan Negara Besar dgn perekonomian yg miskin kok merasa tersaingi USA?aneh....

D'ender
19-01-07, 00:04
well.. munurut gw takutnya AS tersaingi oleh negara2 mayoritas islam ato yang berpaham sosialis nggak salah2 juga...

ada beberapa kemungkinan :
1. AS sekarang secara tidak langsung memegang perekonomian dunia, meski ada euro tetep aja itu cuma ngaruh di eropa, sedangkan amerika sampe kepelosok2, klo sampe negara2 islam mau dan bekerja sama takutnya bakaln berdampak besar terhadap perekonomian mereka (AS).

2. AS sebagai negara yang memproduksi senjata pastinya nyari konsumen donk, dan orang paling butuh senjata (apalagi senjata berat) klo lagi perang.. sama judulnya kayak di Iraq dan palestine, AS tuh nyulut perang supaya senjatanya kepake ato ada yang mo bli..

3. as tuh kan yang paling rame nanam modal, mo di arab saudi kek, mo di Indonesia lah, lo dimana lah (secara keseluruhan). nah klo sampe negara2 yang ditanami modal itu maju en perusahaan ato pabrik2nya di nasionalisasi bisa-bisa abis tuh as... percuma kan klo ada modal tapi nggak bisa dikembangin..

4. yang terakhir.. AS tuh sekarang kan udah bisa dibilang sbg musuh publik, jadi nggak aneh klo sewaktu2 ada aja yang mo ngancurin, dan untuk menghindari hal macam itu terpaksa AS harus berdiri diatas mereka, baik dengan cara memajukan negaranya ato juga dgn cara merusak yang lainnya..

gmn? bisa diterima?
comment is allowed, but no offense ok!

MimiHitam
19-01-07, 02:48
@weryu zzzzzzzzzzz justru itu dia nyerang Iraq Afghanistan gtu2 buat minyak apa lah, pake ikut2an masalah Somalia blabla2

yg jelas gw setuju ama dender!!

BadOne
20-01-07, 03:51
Jadi, siapa yang bener? Siapa yang salah? Yang mana yang berdidri? Yang salah atau yang bener?

MimiHitam
20-01-07, 05:24
gak ada yg bener, semua jg salah. mo usa kek mo korut kek

heavyskillz
20-01-07, 15:34
Pokoke gw seumur idup bencu ama AS, ISRAEL, INGGRIS, n Babaturanana. . .
POKOKE ROSO !!!

BadOne
21-01-07, 03:58
Jadi, niat 'poros *****' itu apa? Dampkanya ke dunia?

MimiHitam
21-01-07, 05:27
negara itu kyk dicecer2 kyk iran itu dicecer resolusi apa2 ampe israel ngebom bla2bla2

Weryu
21-01-07, 16:42
@weryu zzzzzzzzzzz justru itu dia nyerang Iraq Afghanistan gtu2 buat minyak apa lah, pake ikut2an masalah Somalia blabla2

yg jelas gw setuju ama dender!!

Makanya biilangnya yg jelas kale ngomongnya merasa tersaingi tersaiingi dlm hal apa?
@_@
Capee dee klu bilangnya lengkap gt kan Saya ngerti
KWOkowkwowk
Gambar om mimi ma postingannya Ngabisin 1 halaman
WKkakakkakaka

MimiHitam
22-01-07, 00:14
swt maksud gw takud tersaingi karena negara2 kecil itu penghasil dan dia butuh sumber dari itu ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

aquaellie
24-01-07, 04:22
Jadi, siapa yang bener? Siapa yang salah? Yang mana yang berdidri? Yang salah atau yang bener?

yang bener yang menang
yang salah yang kalah
jadi intinya ga ada yang salah ama bener di dunia ini
asal lu menang yang salah jadi bener
liat aja pd2 coba nazi jerman, fasis itali, jepang menang perang ngalahin sekutu
pasti sekarang yang jadi org jahat amerika ama ingris

noe_venety
26-01-07, 18:28
::gun_rifle:: ::run:: ::hdbang:: ::tooth:: ::oops:: ::banned2:: ::FIREdevil:: ::argue2:: ::bangin:: ::angryfire:: :rolleyes: klo kaga pada tahu mnding pada diem aja! sebenernya mana si yang di sebut poros *****!? irak apa usa!!!!

zodiark
26-01-07, 19:16
poros ***** ma ada dimana2 kali,apalagi di diskotik>.<

Trademaks
09-02-07, 01:02
menurut u, perkembangan poros ***** ini, bisa memberikan pengaruh untuk negara2 disekitarnya ?? seperti Indonesia ?

Weryu
09-02-07, 11:52
menurut gua sih bisa memberi saja memberi pengaruh masalahnya mereka pasti mencari dukungan dgn negara tetangga/yang sepaham dgn mereka

MimiHitam
11-02-07, 04:55
menurut u, perkembangan poros ***** ini, bisa memberikan pengaruh untuk negara2 disekitarnya ?? seperti Indonesia ?

menurut gw kaga.. kan dah ada sekarang, tapi gak ada pengaruh apa2 kok ::cheers::

Weryu
11-02-07, 22:05
Telah terjadi perbedaan pendapat di kalangan pemerintah terutama DPR tetapi hal ini belum disampaikan ke pers/Ver very very x100 secret

Trademaks
04-04-07, 15:50
Korea Utara akhirnya menyetujui penutupan fasilitas nuklirnya dalam tempo dua bulan. Sebagai imbalan, Pyongyang akan mendapat bahan bakar minyak sebanyak 1 juta ton.

Sebaliknya, Amerika Serikat akan melakukan perundingan-perundingan langsung mengenai hubungan-hubungan diplomatiknya dengan Korea Utara—anggota dari apa yang disebut oleh Presiden AS George W Bush, sebagai poros setan—dan mulai memikirkan untuk mencabut negara tersebut dari daftar negara-negara *******.

Berdasarkan kesepakatan itu, Korut mempunyai waktu 60 hari untuk menghentikan reaktor nuklirnya di Yongbyon, dan mengizinkan pemeriksa nuklir PBB untuk kembali ke negaranya. Korut juga akan menerima pengiriman pertama minyak bakar 50.000 ton sebagai bagian dari satu ton yang disepakati jika kesepakatan mencapai kemajuan seperti yang diharapkan.

Pada 2002, Presiden Bush mengelompokkan Korut dengan Iran dan Irak sebelum perang sebagai poros ***** berkaitan dengan proliferasi senjata-senjata perusak massal, sedangkan Utara berulangkali mengutuk Washington sebagai musuh kebijakannya.

Bagaimana anda, menyorotinya ???