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equip sama..
1.PT (AGI)
2.BUTTERFLY
3.BURIZA
4.SATANIC
5.MKB
6.BKB
menang yg mana..?
dari base damage jauh lbh besar nevermore..
RAZOR.. gue ud perna coba..razor ad frenzy ..
Razor Lebih Cpet Hit na Dari pada Never...
Kalau masalah damage Ya relatif bisa d imbangin...
Gw pilih razor
[KeeP][SiLenCe]
25-11-08, 23:30
Razor exactly...
BKB kan?...angus requimnya...
aspd menang razor dgn frenzynya...
menang razor aspdnya jauh bgt ma neve
JasonBlake
17-01-09, 14:23
ok let's see ..
razor ada aspd tp inget dy nerima damage 20% lebih besar ..
Frenzy
increases attack speed for 20 seconds, at the cost of taking additional damage.
Level 1 - 25% increase, 5% damage taken increase.
Level 2 - 50% increase, 10% damage taken increase.
Level 3 - 75% increase, 15% damage taken increase.
Level 4 - 100% increase, 20% damage taken increase.
For Razor that's it jd ga meng convince gue klo SF bisa mudah kalah
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But ,
SF punya damage yg ckup besar dgn ada nya:
Shadowraze
Gives the Shadow Fiend the power to desecrate regions in front of him at varying distances.
Level 1 - 75 damage
Level 2 - 150 damage
Level 3 - 225 damage
Level 4 - 300 damage
"PLUS"
Necromastery
Whenever the Shadow Fiend kills a target, he stores the unfortunate soul inside of him. For each stored soul he gains 2 bonus damage until his own death releases half of them from bondage.
Level 1 - 16 damage limit.
Level 2 - 30 damage limit.
Level 3 - 46 damage limit.
Level 4 - 60 damage limit.
Presence of the Dark Lord
The presence of such a horrible creature terrifies nearby enemies, reducing their armor.
Level 1 - 1 armor reduction.
Level 2 - 2 armor reduction.
Level 3 - 3 armor reduction.
Level 4 - 4 armor reduction.
gue bilang menang SF klo pinter maen zxc .. 300x3(kalo kena smua)= 900 @_@
gue ga mo cuma ngmg tp ada statistik .. ^^
tp klo d praktekin tetep yg lebih jago yg menang mo hero apa aja .. :pgrin:
*eh iya nerima .. bukan kurang ..
sun_servant
18-01-09, 00:04
razor!
aspd kalah jauh itu mah
selam_jaya
18-01-09, 00:16
ok let's see ..
razor ada aspd tp inget damage nya kurang 20%
bkn dmgna yg kurang 20%, tapi dia akan menerima dmg 20% lebih besar alias tambah empuk
gw vote nevermore aja kalo razorna pakai frenzy
cRaZy_GhosT
18-01-09, 00:36
vote nvm.
ini hero imba bgt.
kl bisa ganti lothar aja 1 item nvm biar dateng2 lsg req.
jd dy ga keburu bkb.
pegang razor.. pake frenzy damage yg masuk emang lebi dalem.
tp att speed jg naek, lagian ada lifesteal..
ok let's see ..
razor ada aspd tp inget damage nya kurang 20%
Frenzy
increases attack speed for 20 seconds, at the cost of taking additional damage.
Level 1 - 25% increase, 5% damage taken increase.
Level 2 - 50% increase, 10% damage taken increase.
Level 3 - 75% increase, 15% damage taken increase.
Level 4 - 100% increase, 20% damage taken increase.
For Razor that's it jd ga meng convince gue klo SF bisa mudah kalah
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But ,
SF punya damage yg ckup besar dgn ada nya:
Shadowraze
Gives the Shadow Fiend the power to desecrate regions in front of him at varying distances.
Level 1 - 75 damage
Level 2 - 150 damage
Level 3 - 225 damage
Level 4 - 300 damage
"PLUS"
Necromastery
Whenever the Shadow Fiend kills a target, he stores the unfortunate soul inside of him. For each stored soul he gains 2 bonus damage until his own death releases half of them from bondage.
Level 1 - 16 damage limit.
Level 2 - 30 damage limit.
Level 3 - 46 damage limit.
Level 4 - 60 damage limit.
Presence of the Dark Lord
The presence of such a horrible creature terrifies nearby enemies, reducing their armor.
Level 1 - 1 armor reduction.
Level 2 - 2 armor reduction.
Level 3 - 3 armor reduction.
Level 4 - 4 armor reduction.
gue bilang menang SF klo pinter maen zxc .. 300x3(kalo kena smua)= 900 @_@
gue ga mo cuma ngmg tp ada statistik .. ^^
tp klo d praktekin tetep yg lebih jago yg menang mo hero apa aja .. :pgrin:
tetep aja kk kalo zxc kena semua ga ngaruh byk kali .. soalna ada frenzy ama stanic .. lifestealnya pst kenceng jg ^^
razor lebih gede armornya ma darahnya ma aspdnya
selam_jaya
18-01-09, 18:54
emang brp hp razor?
sama2 aginya gak kira jauh beda la hp mereka
JasonBlake
18-01-09, 23:18
equip sama..
1.PT (AGI)
2.BUTTERFLY
3.BURIZA
4.SATANIC
5.MKB
6.BKB
menang yg mana..?
dari base damage jauh lbh besar nevermore..
tetep aja kk kalo zxc kena semua ga ngaruh byk kali .. soalna ada frenzy ama stanic .. lifestealnya pst kenceng jg ^^
se gede2 nya hp razor brapa c ..
900 mayan sakit tuh plus gebok2 SF? behh ..
satanic,mkb + buriza?
gile brapa tuh damage si SF ..
gue sih vote SF .. ^^ :pgrin:
ok let's see ..
razor ada aspd tp inget dy nerima damage 20% lebih besar ..
Frenzy
increases attack speed for 20 seconds, at the cost of taking additional damage.
Level 1 - 25% increase, 5% damage taken increase.
Level 2 - 50% increase, 10% damage taken increase.
Level 3 - 75% increase, 15% damage taken increase.
Level 4 - 100% increase, 20% damage taken increase.
For Razor that's it jd ga meng convince gue klo SF bisa mudah kalah
---------------------------------------------------------------------
But ,
SF punya damage yg ckup besar dgn ada nya:
Shadowraze
Gives the Shadow Fiend the power to desecrate regions in front of him at varying distances.
Level 1 - 75 damage
Level 2 - 150 damage
Level 3 - 225 damage
Level 4 - 300 damage
"PLUS"
Necromastery
Whenever the Shadow Fiend kills a target, he stores the unfortunate soul inside of him. For each stored soul he gains 2 bonus damage until his own death releases half of them from bondage.
Level 1 - 16 damage limit.
Level 2 - 30 damage limit.
Level 3 - 46 damage limit.
Level 4 - 60 damage limit.
Presence of the Dark Lord
The presence of such a horrible creature terrifies nearby enemies, reducing their armor.
Level 1 - 1 armor reduction.
Level 2 - 2 armor reduction.
Level 3 - 3 armor reduction.
Level 4 - 4 armor reduction.
gue bilang menang SF klo pinter maen zxc .. 300x3(kalo kena smua)= 900 @_@
gue ga mo cuma ngmg tp ada statistik .. ^^
tp klo d praktekin tetep yg lebih jago yg menang mo hero apa aja .. :pgrin:
*eh iya nerima .. bukan kurang ..
gimana bisa ZXC masuk damagenya? kan bkb? requiem juga ga masuk
vote 4 razor lah
JasonBlake
19-01-09, 12:56
buka dloan lah sblum razor bkb .. =="
Vote Razor.
Emang na klo lagi Gebok2 an ZXC nya nvm bs masuk? mau ngepasin jaraknya dl?
Meski si Razor nerima DMG 20% lbh bnyak, tp aspd naek 100%. dan aspd Razor ama NVM jelas jauh kenceng Razor, and razor ada skill passive 120 dmg tiap 3sec tuh(klo dah lvl 16).
cRaZy_GhosT
19-01-09, 13:09
makanya saya blg butuh lothar buat opening requi.
dr fog lsg lothar requi.
mau razor aspd kenceng.
nvm gede damage.
blm lagi pengurangan armornya.
lol
Ga efek bro, NVM mau req pun butuh waktu 1 sec kan? klo NVM req, si Razor jg bs pencet BKB na. Klo sesama PRO ttp Menang Razor ( NVM ga boleh kabur dgn lothar).
cRaZy_GhosT
19-01-09, 13:35
lah gw blg apa ?
dr fog,lothar baru req.
tahu dr mna emg razor kl nvm lg req ?
mau menang aspdpun tetep aja menang nvm,razor pake frenzy trima damage dr nvm 120%,nvm bisa zxc,punya necro sm presence dark lord.
tambah empuk lah rzrnya?
gmn si ?
lol, :rofl:
selam_jaya
19-01-09, 13:58
dah -armor.. taking damage 120% lagi.. mati aja razor..
ngarepin skill 3 buat regen 2hp/sec? :llaugh:
MrsBiTcHzZ
19-01-09, 14:01
aku Pegang Never... ^^
Btw ooT dikid
kLo misalna Pas BkB langsung Frenzy isa nda?
Trus pas Lagi BkB minus armor Presence Of the Dark Lord na tetep ngaruh ya?
JasonBlake
19-01-09, 14:35
thats what i meant ..
mentang2 aspd kenceng lgsg vote razor .. :psweat:
mungkin aspd SF ga se kenceng razor tp damage nya boo + -armor !!!!!
*sigh
au ah gelap .. :pgrin:
cRaZy_GhosT
19-01-09, 14:37
wkwkwkwk,,
menang mutlak bgt ini.
armor-,dapet damage,razor terima damage 120%
lengkap sudah penderitaan razor dengan aspdnya yang memukau.. :rofl:
Walah2 damage NVM gila tuh ngurangi armor lagi..Razor psti mati kesetrom...:superman:
deathschyteJr
19-01-09, 20:35
NVM kayaknya.... tapi masi belum tertutup kemungkinan klo razor bakal kalah..... ada faktor yang namanya LUCK.... klo nvm lagi lucky kluar itu critnya ya tepar dah razor..... meskipun razor lebih gede kemungkinan kluar crit krn aspdnya.. tapi damage yg diterima jadi jauh lebih besar......
ehm.....
NvM buat apa pake BkB kl lawan Razor ?
emang razor ada skill mini stun ?
-_-a
mening itu NvM ny ganti barang damage aja gt....
model2 kaya Radiens atau apalha.... ganti Manta juga sakit banget tuh....
tolong dnk ralat dikit kl mao buat hero....
JasonBlake
19-01-09, 21:46
yup bkb hrs nya d ganti ma lothar ..
pasti awal kan kejar lothar tuh nvm pasti easy kills awal2 .. :perr:
tp berhubung TS mo getu barang nya yah uwis la .. :pgrin:
aneh.....
build hero koq kaya gt......
pro ato apa sih ?
Razor : Mjolnir , Butter, Buriza, MKB, PT, Manta / Lothar [ taro Mjolnir Kanan Atas, Manta pake buat jadi 3 aja ]
NvM : Skadi, Butter, Buriza, MKB , PT , Manta [ biarkan Skadi n Manta stuck tapi taro skadi di kanan atas ]
nah kalo item ny kurang lbh seperti ini gimana ?
ralat lha kl razor pk Lothar kl lawan ny NvM
NvM : Skadi [ Frost attack + all stats 15, nambah darah cui dikit ]
Butter [ Aspd 30% + Dodge + damage ]
MKB [ Mini Stun + Aspd + damage ]
Buriza [ Damage 2.2x ]
Manta [ Can make Image 2 + damage + hp ]
Razor : Mjolnir [ Damage + ligthning2 apa gt ]
Sisa nya kurang lbh item ny sama seperti NvM
nah bagaimana pendapat kalian ?
selam_jaya
20-01-09, 23:14
skadina tanggung bro kalo utk nyari hp, kedikitan..
lgsg ae taras, baik razor ataupun nevermorena
weks....
sengaja gw buat skadi bro....
bukan cuma cari hp tapi cari frost attack....
sekarang 2 Image Razor + 1 Razor Asli keluarin Frost attack otomatis musuh nya slow...
dengan itungan ASPD razor gede + ud barang kaya gt pasti damage nya mantep dnk ?
apa kg mate itu ?
di siksa ?
mao kabur salah ?
mao lawan juga mate ?
hahahaha
cRaZy_GhosT
21-01-09, 15:42
image ga bisa ngeslow.
itu hanya attack animation doang.
sm kek bayangan dt kl ngestun orang.
hanya animation doang.
lol
ya tapi setidak nya gt lho....
kalo 1 Razor mukul Slow + SAKIT
+ 2 image razor nya damage nya juga lumayan
gmn coba ?
teriak2 NvM
equip sama..
1.PT (AGI)
2.BUTTERFLY
3.BURIZA
4.SATANIC
5.MKB
6.BKB
menang yg mana..?
dari base damage jauh lbh besar nevermore..
adu gebuk aja
-armor + frenzy terima damage + damage SF lebih besar
emang sih ASPD razor lebih kenceng
tapi diitung2 kayaknya menang SF
Dukung NvM deh kan ada skill 3 nya - armor
JKT-BDGwithLOVE
22-01-09, 15:47
susah klo bandingin gini..
semua tergantung kondisi n playernya..
tp gw vote 4 razor klo lakuci razor vs TS NVM heuehuehueheheu
klo sama sama lvl 25 full equip kyk ny menang razor d.. tp kan klo secara dari awal nvrmore damage ny ud gede n creeping ny gila bgt pake shadowraze ny.. blm lagi razor paling brp x shadowraze mati klo awal".. tp klo ud lvl 25 full equip gw vote razor d.. :give_heart:
emang bener si kl awal2 NvM menang damage.....
tapi yang paling penting itu tergantung dari skill yang maen nya....
lawan NvM rada gampang koq.....
Secara kan XYZ di gunakan lurus dengan badan NvM
tapi kl razor ny pinter nge gocek....
pasti awal2 menang razor......
apa lagi kl razor kg sayang2 mana.....
make chain lightning trz....
kabur2 tu NvM
emang bener si kl awal2 NvM menang damage.....
tapi yang paling penting itu tergantung dari skill yang maen nya....
lawan NvM rada gampang koq.....
Secara kan XYZ di gunakan lurus dengan badan NvM
tapi kl razor ny pinter nge gocek....
pasti awal2 menang razor......
apa lagi kl razor kg sayang2 mana.....
make chain lightning trz....
kabur2 tu NvM
halooo halooo.... kyk ny kita ga ngomongin skill yg maen dech :no:... klo ud cerita yg maen pro sama newbie y ga usah d vote skalian.. soalny ud pasti menang yg pro.... ada yah skill nvm yg "XYZ" ????
selam_jaya
25-01-09, 00:35
maksudna shadowraze bos
Lah kalo dianggap skill pemain setara....pembagian duitnya gk adil lah....jelas shadowraze lebih menghasilkan duit>>eq lebih untuk nevermore
aN[g]eL[s]
25-01-09, 22:30
gw lebih condong ke NvM sih.. skill zxc na sakit gitu..
wa lebih prefer ke razor...
(udah pernah sih by 1 ma nvm sama2 pro :D)
kalau ada frnzy musti buat eq yg G_G klo aspd kenceng
like MKB,Critical,CB,life steal
skill zxc mah klo ada bkb maw ngapain?
menang razor neh
soalnya sakitan razor sih, ASPDnya terlalu gede
kalo nevermore mau make ulti, razor tinggal pake bkb
nevermore kalo mau shadowraze kena semua harus ngedeket dulu...
selagi nevermore jalan ngedeketin si razor, nevermorenya pasti dipukul2 terus
aN[g]eL[s]
27-01-09, 18:29
wa lebih prefer ke razor...
(udah pernah sih by 1 ma nvm sama2 pro :D)
kalau ada frnzy musti buat eq yg G_G klo aspd kenceng
like MKB,Critical,CB,life steal
skill zxc mah klo ada bkb maw ngapain?
ya kalo emang udah akhir2 gw juga pegang razor.. tapi kan kalo by one dr awal ditekan ama zxc gimana? masa awal2 lsg bkb ^^
ministun dr MKB jgn dilupakan donk.. ingat +100% aspd
bs aja atk dr NvM ke cancel ma ministunnya..
i vote for Razor!!
Jelas Razor...
NVM mo zxc + req ada BKB ?
misal pas BKB abis ?
satanic bwat apa ?
1 kali crit = bisa nutup damage shadow raze
aspd gak perlu frenzy dah gg ada buter...
100 % razor..
bandingin hero agi hitter sama semi hitter yh jelas menang hitternya donk
cumy_goyeng
28-01-09, 14:56
equip sama..
1.PT (AGI)
2.BUTTERFLY
3.BURIZA
4.SATANIC
5.MKB
6.BKB
menang yg mana..?
dari base damage jauh lbh besar nevermore..
jelas menang never kk
apa lagi klo soulnya never sampe max
Di buat replay nya ajah
1 On 1 liat siapa yang menang
dari pada cuma ngira" ga jelas keq gini
--a
cumy_goyeng
28-01-09, 15:07
eban.;2114690']Di buat replay nya ajah
1 On 1 liat siapa yang menang
dari pada cuma ngira" ga jelas keq gini
--a
gak seru kk klo ada replaynya
nanti klo yg main 1nya oon gimana???
kan susah.... yakan yakan....
si_the_kill
20-02-09, 22:18
vote 4 razor...
menang aspd...
truz tambah satanic lg...
cpt bner tuh darah'y pnuh...
GM-Lemonade
21-02-09, 06:42
1 on 1 .. menang razor.. kalo misalnya kamu maen team.. lebih mendukung nvm