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    Default Vindication Uptime

    Spell / Talent : Vindication

    Class : Paladin, Tier 3 Retribution talent

    Referensi : openwow, di wowwiki, wowpedia, dan wowhead udah versi cata
    postnya Theck dari Maintankadin tentang tes nya Vindication, link

    Error : Vindication di AMPM uptime nya jauh lebih kecil dibanding di offi. Padahal skill ini berguna sekali buat ngurangi damage boss yg klo di fix jadi gede.

    Dari data tes yg di lakukan Theck
    This log of PPM enchant testing has 399 Vindication procs out of 830 melee swings, which puts the proc chance at 48%. It could be a nice round 50% chance on melee attack, which falls within the 95% confidence interval. Note that I was hit-capped and expertise soft-capped for the dummy in this test, using a 3.5-speed weapon, and there were no Vindication misses in the log browser.
    Berdasarkan kesimpulan dari Theck bahwa Vindication kerjanya berdasar PPM (Proc per minute). Dengan 50% chance melee swing dengan weapon 3.5-speed, berarti PPM = (60/3.5)*0.5 ~= 8.5.
    So my current best guess is that it's a PPM-based proc-rate (maybe 8-9 PPM based on the numbers given) resulting in a ~20-25% proc rate for a 1.6 speed weapon
    tes yg kurang lebih sama, pake senjata 3.5 speed, hit dan exp capped. Dari 400 melee swing, ada 39 proc vindication (3 miss dan 36 applied). Jadi chance nya 9.75%, atau klo dibulatkan 10%.
    Combat Log nya Vindication tes melee swing.rar

    Sedangkan di AMPM, 10% chance dengan weapon 3.5 speed, berarti PPM = (60/3.5)*0.1 ~= 1.7. berarti di kisaran 1.5-2 PPM.
    Jauh lebih kecil di bandingkan di offi.

    Bagian kedua tes dengan smua skill. Dari post Theck
    This log of PPM enchant testing with SoV active has 668 Vindication procs in 3582 melees and other stuff. Note that this is closer to 18%, and was with a 1.4-speed weapon. This could mean it's PPM based rather than a flat proc chance. I was hit-capped in this test, but not expertise capped, yet saw no Vindication parries or dodges.
    diiasumsikan perhitungannya benar2 8-9 PPM, klo ada 3582 melee&skill dengan 1.4 speed, berarti jumlah aplikasi Vindication antara 3582/(60/1.4) * 8 = 668 dan 3582/(60/1.4) * 9 = 752. Sama dengan Hasil tes

    tes di AMPM kurang lebih sama, senjata pake 1.5-speed dengan SoV aktif.
    Combat Log nya Vindication tes all.rar
    Dari 669 melee dan skill (melee=201, CS=48, DS=72, Judge=34, dan SoV=314) ada 19 proc Vindication.
    Jika diasumsikan PPM nya benar 1.5-2, maka Jumlah proc vindication antara 669/(60/1.5) * 1.5 = 25 dan 669/(60/1.5) * 2 ~= 33. Karena relatif jauh lebih kecil dar tes, berarti ada skill yg diabaikan.
    Apabila SoV diabaikan berarti ada 355 skill, maka Jumlah proc vindication antara 355/(60/1.5) * 1.5 = 13 dan 355/(60/1.5) * 2 = 18. Lebih dekat dengan tes.

    Jadi kesimpulan, ada 2 bug di Talent Vindication
    - PPM yg lebih kecil dari offi, di offi 8-9 PPM, sedangkan di AMPM 1.5-2 PPM
    - Seal tidak bisa proc Vindication harusnya bisa

    Thanks atas perhatiannya.


    note:
    perhitungan PPM = (60/WeaponSpeed) * ChanceProcFromTest
    Perhitungan jumlah Proc berdasar PPM = NumberOfTries/(60/WeaponSpeed) * PPM = NumberOfTries*WeaponSpeed/60 * PPM
    Last edited by Xanvial; 02-12-11 at 02:55.
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