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Tambahan: Diskusi Sentinel dan Scourge di merge menjadi 1 di thread ini.

[xell]

Start from me.

Pada Map Dota 6.68c
tentunya mempunyai 4 hero baru:

Spoiler untuk Wisp :

Wisp

Str 17+1.9
Agi 14+1.5
Int 23+1.7

* Affiliation: Sentinel
* Attack Animation: 0.15/0.4
* Damage: 33-42
* Casting Animation: 0.01/0.51
* Armor: 0
* Base Attack Time: 1.7
* Movespeed: 295
* Missile Speed: 1600
* Attack Range: 525
* Sight Range: 1800/800

Hero Skills

Tether

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Unit
* Ability Hotkey: T

Io tethers himself to an allied unit, granting both units bonus movement speed. Any enemy units that contact the tether will be stunned. The tether will break if it stretches beyond 900 units. Lasts 12 seconds.

Spirits

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Instant
* Ability Hotkey: W

Io summons 5 ancient Spirits over the course of 6 seconds; the Spirits dance around Io in a circle to protect him. If an enemy hero moves close enough to touch a Spirit, the Spirit releases its life energy in a burst, damaging and slowing all enemies in a 300 area of effect. Non hero units only take minor damage upon touching a spirit and do not cause them to explode.

Overcharge

* Ability Type: Toggle
* Targeting Type: Instant
* Ability Hotkey: V

Io draws on more energy than he can safely handle, granting him bonus attack speed, but draining 2.5% of his current HP and MP per second. If Io is tethered to an ally the bonus attack speed is also granted to that ally.

Relocate

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Ground
* Ability Hotkey: R

Io temporarily relocates himself, along with any tethered hero, to the target location for 12 seconds.

Spoiler untuk Grycopter :

Grycopter

Str 18+1.8
Agi 24+2.4
Int 23+2.1
* Affiliation: Sentinel
* Attack Animation: 0.2/0.97
* Damage: 41-51
* Casting Animation: 0.3/0.5
* Armor: 2
* Base Attack Time: 1.7
* Movespeed: 305
* Missile Speed: 3000
* Attack Range: 375
* Sight Range: 1800 / 800

Hero Skills

Rocket Barrage

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Instant
* Ability Hotkey: R

Gyrocopter unleashes a massive salvo of rockets, striking random units in a 400 aoe. Fires 30 rockets over 3 seconds.


Horning Missile

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Unit
* Ability Hotkey: E

The Gyrocopter launches a homing missile that will follow the target until it impacts. The missile is inactive for 3 seconds upon launch and then begins slowly accelerating towards the target. Stuns the target for 2.5 seconds and deals damage based on how much it traveled. The missle can be destroyed by 3 attacks from a hero or tower.

Flak Cannon

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Instant
* Ability Hotkey: F

The Gyrocopter enables all of its cannons, allowing its attacks to strike all enemies in a 800 aoe. Lasts for a limited number of attacks or 15 seconds. Does not work with illusions.


Call Down

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Ground
* Ability Hotkey: C

The Gyrocopter launches two missiles at the targeted area. The first missile strikes in 2 seconds, followed by the second missile at 4 seconds. Enemies in the area when a missile strikes are damaged and slowed.

Io temporarily relocates himself, along with any tethered hero, to the target location for 12 seconds.

Spoiler untuk Far Seer :

Far Seer

Str 19+1.9
Agi 15+1.4
Int 22+2.5
* Affiliation: Sentinel
* Attack Animation: 0.4/0.5
* Damage: 49-53
* Casting Animation: 0.05/1.0
* Armor: 1
* Base Attack Time: 1.7
* Movespeed: 300
* Missile Speed: 1200
* Attack Range: 600
* Sight Range: 1800/800


Hero Skills

Thunder Strike

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Unit
* Ability Hotkey: C

Thrall curses the target to be struck by thunder 3 times over 4 seconds. Foes nearby the victim will also be damaged.


Glimpse

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Unit
* Ability Hotkey: D

Thrall forces the target back to it's previous position through a psionic rift. Sends the unit to where it was 4 seconds ago.


Kinetic Field

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Area
* Ability Hotkey: E

Thrall summons a circular barrier of kinetic energy, keeping enemies from walking in or out of it. The barrier has an aoe of 300.


Static Storm

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Area
* Ability Hotkey: R

Creates an area of electric instability which damages and silences enemies in the area. The effect starts off weak and then intensifies over 5 seconds, dealing increasing amounts of damage, before disappearing.

Spoiler untuk Shadow Demon :

Shadow Demon

Str 17+1.9
Agi 18+2.2
Int 26+2.7
* Affiliation: Scourge
* Attack Animation: 0.35/0.5
* Damage: 53-57
* Casting Animation: 0.3/0.51
* Armor: 3
* Base Attack Time: 1.7
* Movespeed: 295
* Missile Speed: 900
* Attack Range: 500
* Sight Range: 1800/800


Hero Skills

Disruption

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Unit
* Ability Hotkey: D

Eredar banishes the target to a dimensional pocket for 2.5 seconds, removing it from play for the duration. Upon return two images of the target are created under Eredar's control which last for 6 seconds.



Soul Catcher

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Area
* Ability Hotkey: C

Ererdar lays a curse on an area; one random enemy unit in the area is afflicted with the curse, causing it to take increased damage for 12 seconds.

Shadow Poison

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Ground
* Ability Hotkey: W

Eredar casts forth a shadowy poison which deals 50 damage and afflicts all it touches for 10 seconds. If a unit is affected again in this duration, the toxin will be renewed and amplified exponentially. At the end of the duration, the shadow poison deals extra damage for each time it affected the victim. You have small vision over affected heroes.



Demonic Purge

* Ability Type: Active
* Targeting Type: Unit
* Ability Hotkey: G

Eredar casts a powerful demonic purge on a target enemy, removing all positive buffs. The purged target slowly regains its movement speed over 4 seconds. At the end of the purge the target takes damage.

Silahkan diskusikan.. ke 4 hero diatas.

[Vexituz]

Slark

Spoiler untuk status :

     
21 + 1.0|21 + 2.0|16 + 1.6

Spoiler untuk Statistic :

    * Affiliation: Neutral
    * Attack Animation: 0.5 / 0.3
    * Damage: 48 - 56
    * Casting Animation: 0.001 / 0.51
    * Armor: 1.94
    * Base Attack Time: 1.7
    * Movespeed: 305
    * Missile Speed: Instant
    * Attack Range: 128 (melee)
    * Sight Range: 1800/1800

Spoiler untuk History :

In the deepest, blackest pits of the ocean a fearsome and terrifying creature lurks. Bending the shadows to his will, few have seen his true form and none have lived to speak of it. For the shadows are his sanctuary, a place of empowerment and revitalisation. Bathed in this inpenetrable darkness he strikes unseen, every attack making him swifter and more powerful whilst weakening his enemy. An unbreakable leash awaits all who try to escape, leaving them at mercy of this horrifying phantom. By sacrificing a fraction of his soul, his pact with darkness allows him break even the most powerful bonds and curses. |n|nWith echoes of the Great War reaching every corner of the earth, this creature, known only as Slark, has emerged from the depths to search for an ancient relic...

Spoiler untuk Skill :

Spoiler untuk Dark Pact :

Slark calls upon deities of the swamps to seal a dark pact. Sacrificing some of his lifeblood, Slark is redeemed of all negative effects.

Spoiler untuk Pounce :

Surges directly forward and latches on to the first enemy he hits, binding it with chains of darkness.

Spoiler untuk Essence Shift :

Reciting ancient Nightcrawler incantations, Slark enchants his blade to steal the power and courage from his enemies.

Spoiler untuk Shadow Dance :

Covers himself with a dark smoke, he becomes invisible and does not reveal himself while attacking or casting spells. Also passively provides bonuses when Murloc Nightcrawler cannot be seen by the enemy.

Spoiler untuk Skill Build :

Lvl 01 : Pounce
Lvl 02 : Essence Aura
Lvl 03 : Pounce
lvl 04 : Essence Aura
lvl 05 : Pounce
lvl 06 : Shadow Dance
lvl 07 : Pounce
lvl 08 : Essence Aura
lvl 09 : Essence Aura
lvl 10 : Status
lvl 11 : Status
lvl 12 : Status
lvl 13 : Status
lvl 14 : Status
lvl 15 : Status
lvl 16 : Shadow Dance
lvl 17 : Status
lvl 18 : Status
lvl 19 : Status
lvl 20 : Status
lvl 21 : Status
lvl 22 : Dark Pact
lvl 23 : Dark Pact
lvl 24 : Dark Pact
lvl 25 : Dark Pact

Spoiler untuk Item :

Spoiler untuk Permulaan :

Spoiler untuk Item Build :

1st
2nd + =
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th Jual Ganti dengan atau

Spoiler untuk F.A.Q :

yuk tanya

yuk mari didiskusikan juga ini hero GG, gw suka maen nih hero

yang di atas itu cara maen gue... jadi sorry klo ada yg ga berkenan di hati kk kk semua

[vin_nto]

hero whisp bagus banget buat GAP / termasuk tipe suport yg sangat keren layak nya furion...

karena di sini whisp juga bisa membawa 1 teman nya untuk blink unver 1 map selama map itu sdah terbuka walaupun fog ...

hero cocok yg di bawa whisp:
tiny
sk
tipe2 stunner


selain itu . skill ke tiga nya + AS yg membuat nya sangat cocok di golongkan tipe suport terhandal.. di karena kan skill 1 nya yg menambah MS dan skil 3 AS yg membuat aliansi menjadi lebih GG..
cocok nya dgn hero seperti:
motred
void
tipe2 agy / full dmg chaos

dan untuk item whisp harus meningkat kan regen HP dan MANA.. yg dimana skill 3 nya sangat memerlukan hal tsb..

1st x pake whips paling gg gw karena gw dan tiny sering gap2 sampe2 musuh pada bilang GG di awal permainan


saran item awal:
jika pick hero
beli 2 circle
2 ranting
1 tango

klu random

beli 4 circlet 1 tango


item countinous blood of stone.. high recomend for skill 3


1 lg saran saya, klu mau pake ulti liat2 sikon.. karena ulti nya juga mempunya kelemahan yaitu mudah ketahuan musuh. jika sadar. karena dalam delai 2 detik sebelum teleport. akan ada titik kecil cahaya merah di minimap / di map besar seperti cahaya elf

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@ Feather,
sejujurnya saya sendiri tidak perna memakai hero itu -_-
bahkan sampai sekarang hero 6.68c saya tidak mengerti memakainya, karena ga sempet buat test uji coba.
makanya saya sharing dan buka topic tersebut sebagai pembicaraan, agar saya sendiri "orang awam" agar lebih mengetahui dari segi/bentuk hero baru itu.

nah tp saya rasa hero yang kamu sebutkan itu cocok buat fastgame atau midgame.

[vin_nto]

klu menurut saya slark hero yg klu bisa di buat farm secara tepat. hasil akhir nya jadi hero yg GG..

dari skil2 nya saja yg sudah sangat imba.. yg walau darah nya sangat minim membuat nya jadi instan dead


jadi untuk slark bagus nya di GB dgn hero healing / stuner.

klu dalam posisi war 1 lawan 1 di dalam hutan.. hero slark kemungkinan menang nya lebih besar di karena kan dia bisa mengambil atribut lawan. ..
hanya saja, yg diperlukan hero ini sangat besar akan vitality nya

recomend item..

BKB
lifesteler..
CB
PT

dan lg hero ini klu dah lv 6 sangat GG ga perlu pulang isi darah.. tinggal menghilangkan diri dari pandangan musuh / invisible from enemy. yg penting ga di liat sama enemy baik musuh / creep musuh.. darah regen jadi lebih besar

[WesLeyzhao]

hero whisp cocok dgn Ursa GG^^

Benci Slark..

[Vexituz]

wisp sama slark = GG
atribut yg di isep juga mantaf

selaen itu
ada stunnya juga kan tambah asik

gw sih klo slark ga maen LS
soalnya ada skill 4... pertama x loncat, terus klo di hit baru pake ulti

[dnec-5th]

Wisp, menurut gw ulti nya kelamaan, 12 detik apalagi kalo combo nya ama ursa 99% ngekill..

Far Seer, gw sebel bgt kalo se line ama far seer trus dia nyicil gw pake skill 1 thunder strike..
Ada yg tau ga, gmn cara cancel skill thunder strike nya si far seer, selain invis?!

[xell]

Best Combo Heroes,
Wisp + Sven
Wisp + Ursa Warrior

Gak ada obat saya jamin.
build itemnya?

wisp -> magic stick > bracer > bracer > arcane boots > force staff < item fastgame
sven > magic stick > pt > bracer > bracer > blink > bkb < item fastgame
ursa > magic kstick > phase boots > vladimir > blink/lothar < fast game

[vin_nto]

ada kok... selama kita waspada...

ulti wisp 2 second... klu kita waspada bisa menghindar kok...


selain itu.. kita punya waktu survival selama 12 *******. jika masih selamat maka whisp akan balik lagi ke tempat asal..


selamat deh...



@dnec-5th

maksdu nya kamu yg kelamaan apanya ???

ngerti skill nya ga???

[dnec-5th]

ada kok... selama kita waspada...

ulti wisp 2 second... klu kita waspada bisa menghindar kok...


selain itu.. kita punya waktu survival selama 12 *******. jika masih selamat maka whisp akan balik lagi ke tempat asal..


selamat deh...



@dnec-5th

maksdu nya kamu yg kelamaan apanya ???

ngerti skill nya ga???

lho, gw bicara sbg lawan nya wisp bkn sbg wisp..
Buat gw kalo wisp relocate ke tmpt gw yg lagi creep atau lg run, kemungkinan kecil gw ga selamat alias mati apalagi kalo dia bawa ursa..
Ngerti ga bos?!

[Lucas-Iscariot]

Best Combo Heroes,
Wisp + Sven
Wisp + Ursa Warrior

Gak ada obat saya jamin.
build itemnya?

wisp -> magic stick > bracer > bracer > arcane boots > force staff < item fastgame
sven > magic stick > pt > bracer > bracer > blink > bkb < item fastgame
ursa > magic kstick > phase boots > vladimir > blink/lothar < fast game

kalo kita sbg musuh dr hero2 di atas.. sebaiknya jgn sampai mereka jadi item kaya gitu, kalo musuh kaya begitu mendingan kita pakai sandking, nah dr lv 1 sandking mobile trus jagain wisp N langganan pu. tentu butuh stuner lain slain sandking, venge + sk kayanya gg deh.

[xell]

tergantung sih, biasanya saya itu ngambil kelemahan musuh =p

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tergantung sendiri kale....