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    om minta contekan talent tanking bear donk,sekalian sama glypnya,hehehe lagi mau belajar tanking bear

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    base nya gini
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...W,ONfHq3,12213

    sisa 8 point bisa dimasukin ke:
    - Improved Leader of the Pact buat bantu heal
    - Natural+Master Shapeshifter (1 paket) buat threat
    - Improved Mangle buat threat
    - King of the Jungle buat Threat
    - Penuhin Feral Instinct buat AoE threat
    - Jika butuh Demolarizing Roar (ga da paladin yg ambil vindication), bisa diisi dari point sisa, dari poin nya feral instinct (AoE threatnya jadi turun), atau ambil dari Ferocity (klo udah lawan boss biasanya ga da masalah Rage)

    Klo soal threat yg dihasilkan sih setahuku Master Shapeshifter ngasih paling gede.
    Talent yg ta pake skrng http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...2,ONMHq3,12213

    Glyph Major yg wajib
    - Frenzied Regeneration
    - Survival Instinct
    yg terakhir pilih
    - Mangle
    - Maul
    - Growl
    - Berserk

    Minornya yg wajib cmn Challenging Roar
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    hmmm..
    gunanya ambil berserk buat bear tb apa om?

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    threat di awal, soalnya biasanya klo ada masalah threat kejadiannya di awal engage
    klo aq sih biasanya gini awal2 (karena ga ambil imp mangle jadi ada 3 GCD diantara dua Mangle)
    Mangle, FF, Lacerate, Lacerate, Mangle, Lacerate, Lacerate, Lacerate, Berserk, Mangle sampe durasi lacerate sisa 2-3 detikan, Lacerate, Mangle sampe abis Berserk
    abis itu rotasi deh
    Mangle, FF, X, Y
    X dan Y di isi (sesuai prioritas)
    - Lacerate, klo durasi sisa 3 detikan
    - Demo Roar, klo sisa 3 detikan (klo udah ada yg laen apply skip aja)
    - Swipe

    Lagian cmn 1 point, jauh lebih berguna dibandingkan di taruh di tempat laen (talentnya terbatas ga terlalu banyak pilihan buat survivalibility lagI)
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    kk.......saya baru belajar druid

    saya benar2 tidak mengerti druid.....

    1.qlo moonkin....rotasi nya gimana y?? terus gylph yg bagus apa??? gem nya gimana dll

    2.feraL,,,pertanyaan sama kek di atas

    maaf banyak nanya

    thx b4

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    Untuk pertanyaan2 seputar Druid Tanking sabar ya,lagi dibikin guide-nya..

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    om minta tips and trick arena 2s dong.gue iler ga berubah jadi toge
    minta tips CC yg baik dan benar.. abis kalo udah 3x CC pasti gue keteteran.apalagi kalo lawannya palhol -___-

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    CC timingnya yang tepat aja hajar dpsny dlu (kalo musuh duet healer) terus bantu2 hit dpsny (roots,faeire fire,moonfire,wrath) kira2 darah dpsny stngah lagi baru cyclone 3xhealerny (pasin timing CCny)
    jangan keasikan hit liat darah sendiri sama dps qtny jangn ampe mati
    slow=berubah bentuk biar ngilangin efek slowny
    spam abolish kalo ada racun (kaya rogue)
    kalo ada ada WL jangn mau jadi toge=banish jangan lupa remove curse ny juga
    poly=berubah jadi toge aj bakal ilang efeck polyny(kalo jadi toge ya imun poly)
    wilgrowth spam+reju+lifeboom (stack 2 cukup tapi kalo lagi ga mepet stack 3) harus slalu nempel durasinya 3 skil it,kalo ad waktu casting yang pas ya regrowth aja
    CMIIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarmoons View Post
    om minta tips and trick arena 2s dong.gue iler ga berubah jadi toge
    minta tips CC yg baik dan benar.. abis kalo udah 3x CC pasti gue keteteran.apalagi kalo lawannya palhol -___-
    Waduh,knp keteteran ya?Justru k'lo gue arena 2s lawan comp yg ada PaLhoL alamat lama itu (20-30 menit).
    K'lo bisa lbh specific keteterannya knp?
    -Apa krn partner anda yang dps tdk bisa kill krn selalu di heal PalHoL dan loe k'ga bisa CC-nya?
    -Apa krn anda yang jd lebih sering kena CC?
    -Partner anda class apa?
    -Talent anda kira2 bgm? Apa hybrid krn tdk berubah jd toge? (Ambil sampe Insect Swarm?)
    -3x CC yg dimaksud apa Cyclone saja?

    Assuming yang dimaksud cyclone,berikut fakta tentang cyclone yang perlu diingat dan yang berhubungan dng cyclone itu sendiri.

    Diminishing Returns (DR) dari cyclone adalah 50% > 25% (6 secs > 3 secs > 1,5 secs) bukan 6 secs > 4 secs > 2 secs (anggapan yang suka salah dari bbrp org)
    *Khusus untuk AMPM 6 secs > 1,5 secs (cmiiw)
    Spoiler untuk Quoted Source :

    Cyclone diminishing returns 50%, 25% (6 seconds, 3 seconds, 1.5 seconds), NOT 6 seconds, 4 seconds and 2 seconds as some people believe

    Apa itu Diminishing Returns?
    Suatu spell dan ability SEJENIS yg berkurang efeknya jika digunakan berulang kali pada tenggang waktu yg singkat.
    Spoiler untuk Quoted Source :

    Diminishing returns, abbreviated DR, means that certain spells and abilities are less effective against player characters if they are used frequently within a short period of time.

    Brp lama hrs menunggu agar Cyclone tidak terkena DR?
    15-20 detik,bbrp addons perkirakan 18 detik
    Spoiler untuk Quoted Source :

    A particular diminishing return category may take anywhere between 15 and 20 seconds to reset. Most addons guess that a DR category has reset after 18 seconds by default.

    Kenapa 15-20 detik?
    Cyclone 6 detik > setelah 6 detik habis durasi cyclone baru dimulai penghitungan 15 detik
    *Server cek tiap 5 detik sebanyak 3x (15 detik) apa target yg di Cyclone terkena efek yang sejenis
    Spoiler untuk Quoted Source :

    Spells must be used on the same target within 15 seconds of the *end* of the duration in order to be diminished. In other words, if a target hasn't had a stun effect active on them for more than 15 seconds, the next stun will have full effect.

    Apa yang dimaksud dng efek yang sejenis?*DR terjadi bukan pada spell dan ability yg sama tapi sejenis
    Spoiler untuk Quoted Soruce :

    Some abilities share diminishing returns—that is, it doesn't matter which one you use; the next time you use an ability in the same category on the same target, its duration will be diminished just as if you had used the exact same ability. These abilities fall into the same category.


    More on Cyclone
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    Semoga bermanfaat..

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    ^^
    keteteran gara2 gatau timing yang tepat om,gue duet sama palret bukan jodohnya ya druid sama palret
    talent yg gue pake resto kok cuman ga ambil improved tree life,ambilnya Barskin
    3x CC itu cuman cyclone aja,abis druid ga ada CC yg laen kan
    mohon bantuannya lagi sepuh

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarmoons View Post
    ^^
    keteteran gara2 gatau timing yang tepat om,gue duet sama palret bukan jodohnya ya druid sama palret
    talent yg gue pake resto kok cuman ga ambil improved tree life,ambilnya Barskin
    3x CC itu cuman cyclone aja,abis druid ga ada CC yg laen kan
    mohon bantuannya lagi sepuh
    Setau gue ya,sehrsnya ngga terlalu susah k'lo mo ambil improved tree life + barkskin.
    Gue pernah seh coba comp Druid Resto + PaLreT,lumayan koq CC-nya k'lo di combinasi..Hammer of Justice > Cyclone > Repentance.
    Perlu diingat..Cyclone casting-nya 1.5 secs,range-nya 20 yds.
    Itu semua teori di atas,yg penting bny2 latian..ntar juga dapet timingnya koq.
    Jadi druid hrs pinter2 strip tiang,shape shift,fake cast.


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    ^^
    thanks banyak kk
    sangat membantu

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarmoons View Post
    ^^
    thanks banyak kk
    sangat membantu
    Sama2..
    Sering duel2 aja,cari sparing partner untuk bisa test ini dan itu..gue biasanya minta tolong ma partner arena gue jadi sama2 latian.
    Pelan2 aja,semakin rajin makin GG!

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    Numpang tanya, gemming buat moonkin paling bagus apa ? sama meta + encan juga hehe
    sama pengen denger pendapat rotasi FF > Starfall >MF>IS > starfire sampe proc, sama FF>Starfall>MF>Starfire , sampe proc , atau FF>Starfall>IS>Wrath , sampe proc damage donenya gedean mana ya ? atau bagi" ilmu rotasi druidnya dong om hehe

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    oy kerbull, mana ini guide tanking druidnya.. udah gak sabar nihh

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