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    PvP warrior protection : DBW H + Lavanthor Talisman. pas lagi proc tauren,, click lavanthor + shield block,, shield slam!!!

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    pally = kasih tau gk yaaaaaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikhan View Post
    pally = kasih tau gk yaaaaaaa
    kasih tau oi...jgn pelit2 laaaaa....kalo perlu char lu kasih juga....

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    Pally Retri

    PVE = Yang pasti jgn BDW, hit 8%in dl expertise 26 dl

    1. DV Heroic + Herkumi (niat mau ganti WFS Heroic gk drop2)
    2. Darkmoon (STR) + Herkumi atau WFS
    3. Kenapa gk Tiny? hit udah berlebih soalnya, kalo blm cap pake Tiny aja, Tiny masih blm berasa buat SoV, gk tau bug ampm apa emang gimana

    PVP = Hit 6%

    1. Human = DV/DC Heroic/Normal + WFS Heroic/Normal
    2. Non Human = Medallion + DV/DC Heroic/Normal + WFS Heroic/Normal
    3. Kalo gk punya DV/DC pake Darkmoon (STR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikhan View Post
    Pally Retri

    PVE = Yang pasti jgn BDW, hit 8%in dl expertise 26 dl

    1. DV Heroic + Herkumi (niat mau ganti WFS Heroic gk drop2)
    2. Darkmoon (STR) + Herkumi atau WFS
    3. Kenapa gk Tiny? hit udah berlebih soalnya, kalo blm cap pake Tiny aja, Tiny masih blm berasa buat SoV, gk tau bug ampm apa emang gimana

    PVP = Hit 6%

    1. Human = DV/DC Heroic/Normal + WFS Heroic/Normal
    2. Non Human = Medallion + DV/DC Heroic/Normal + WFS Heroic/Normal
    3. Kalo gk punya DV/DC pake Darkmoon (STR)
    Mau nanya nih, bwt PVE :
    1. Bagus WFS DBW / DBW Greatness / WFS Greatness ?
    2. Greatness vs Herkuml, who has the advantage?
    3. DBW vs Herkuml?
    4. WFS vs Herkuml?
    Trus apakah Arpen dan Haste bagus buat dikasih ke pally?

    That's all tolong dijawab ya gausa semua jg gpp kok


    BTW abis baca ulang post nya, kok [Tiny Abnomination in a Jar] ga masuk ya?
    Emang ga sebagus trinket lainnya ato gmn?
    Last edited by Libronix; 14-12-11 at 15:29.
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    buat retri rankny (buat tiny diasumsikan hit nya ga sia2, soalnya masih rada bug), list lengkapnya

    Tiny Abomination in a Jar(Heroic)>Tiny Abomination in a Jar>Death's Choice (heroic)>Whispering Fanged Skull (heroic)>Death's Choice>Whispering Fanged Skull>Herkuml War Token>Deathbringer's Will(heroic)>Deathbringer's Will>DMC:Greatness (Strength)>Needle-Encrusted Scorpion>Banner of Victory

    klo hit nya tiny ga kepake, posisi tiny di antara WFS dan Herkumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libronix View Post
    Mau nanya nih, bwt PVE :
    1. Bagus WFS DBW / DBW Greatness / WFS Greatness ?
    2. Greatness vs Herkuml, who has the advantage?
    3. DBW vs Herkuml?
    4. WFS vs Herkuml?
    Trus apakah Arpen dan Haste bagus buat dikasih ke pally?

    That's all tolong dijawab ya gausa semua jg gpp kok
    Oh iya, ini pure AMPM (make your own style)

    oke pertama2, ARPEN buang jauh2 dari pally karena basic pally itu holy damage, arpen ngasih benefit SANGAT kecil bisa di bilang gk ngasih sama sekali. Seperti yang gw bilang DBW tuh basic statnya arpen yang notabene gk begitu berguna buat pally, blm lagi ICD yang 1 menit lebih, mungkin kalo proc si emang keliatan bagus 30 sec dps naik jauh abis itu turun. Pally lebih ke STR (talent + 15% STR, AP diubah jadi SP)

    1. WFS Greatness
    2. Greatness / Herkumi sama2 bagus pilih aja enaknya yang mana
    3. DBW Herkumi = buang DBWnya ganti Greatness
    3. WFS Herkumi bagus 2 2 nya, tapi gw lebih milih Herkumi karena Haste + AP permanen (menurut pendapat pribadi)

    Tiny di pake kalo merasa kurang Hit, kalo berlebih mending drop ganti yang lain. intinya si 8%

    Arpen ke Pally = jelek, Haste = Bagus (2 Pieces T10) tapi jgn berlebihan sampe semua di colok haste. Kalo mao tanya2 soal pally haste ke nick Poisonasa (A) (Pally Haste dps selalu diatas)

    Korek Saya Jika Saya Sok Tau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libronix View Post
    Mau nanya nih, bwt PVE :
    1. Bagus WFS DBW / DBW Greatness / WFS Greatness ?
    2. Greatness vs Herkuml, who has the advantage?
    3. DBW vs Herkuml?
    4. WFS vs Herkuml?
    Trus apakah Arpen dan Haste bagus buat dikasih ke pally?

    That's all tolong dijawab ya gausa semua jg gpp kok


    BTW abis baca ulang post nya, kok [Tiny Abnomination in a Jar] ga masuk ya?
    Emang ga sebagus trinket lainnya ato gmn?
    1. WFS - Greatness (Str)
    2. karena pally itu main stats nya adalah str, jadi saya pilih greatness
    3. Herkuml (pally gak pake DBW)
    4. berat, tp saya pilih WFS (Setahu saya stats pally kalo hit dan exp dah caps maka str >> crit >> haste)
    buat pally gak butuh ArPen gede2...soalnya serangannya gak murni fisik...kalo haste sih masih masuk lah, tp utamain str ama crit deh keknya...
    masalah tiny itu tergantung dari hit rating mu...seperti kata Xanvial, kalo kamu pake tiny tp hit rating jadi bengkak, efeknya jelek...tp kalo pake tiny bikin hit rating mu jadi caps (8%), maka trinket ini cocok buat pally...

    Quote Originally Posted by sikhan View Post
    Korek Saya Jika Saya Sok Tau
    ogah ah...lu sendiri aja yg korek....
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    Retri ngasih physical damage sekitar 35-40% total (Melee+CS+DS jadi ntar perhatiin aja dulu di recountmu 3 itu total brp %damage mu), jadi arpen ngaruh ke situ
    kurang lebih sama dengan rogue assassin yg physicalnya cmn dari melee dan mutilate (sekitar 30-40% juga).

    Jadi buat bukannya sangat kecil, cmn ga terlalu efektif aja
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    Ohh i see, jadi Greatness vs DBW itu masi dipegang Greatness ya buat pally?
    Trinket gw skrg itu DBW + Greatness, WFS ga dpt" T.T
    EOF uda cukup, cuma lagi bingung aja, apakah bagus kalo salah satu dari itu diganti Herkuml?
    Wow ternyata arpen gw over banget gara" dapet stat gear eof ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanvial View Post
    Retri ngasih physical damage sekitar 35-40% total (Melee+CS+DS jadi ntar perhatiin aja dulu di recountmu 3 itu total brp %damage mu), jadi arpen ngaruh ke situ
    kurang lebih sama dengan rogue assassin yg physicalnya cmn dari melee dan mutilate (sekitar 30-40% juga).

    Jadi buat bukannya sangat kecil, cmn ga terlalu efektif aja
    intinya gk guna kan? cuma bahasanya aja yang beda

    Ohh i see, jadi Greatness vs DBW itu masi dipegang Greatness ya buat pally?
    Trinket gw skrg itu DBW + Greatness, WFS ga dpt" T.T
    EOF uda cukup, cuma lagi bingung aja, apakah bagus kalo salah satu dari itu diganti Herkuml?
    Wow ternyata arpen gw over banget gara" dapet stat gear eof ><
    kalo gear udah bagus biasanya arpen cuma dari sepatu LDW sama SE aja, intinya si minimalisir Arpen
    Last edited by sikhan; 14-12-11 at 15:52.

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    Kalo tuk RDruid mnrut ane :
    Druid PVP : Medal + Abacus / Coroded / Lunar Dust
    Druid PVE : Abacus + Lunar

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikhan View Post
    intinya gk guna kan? cuma bahasanya aja yang beda



    kalo gear udah bagus biasanya arpen cuma dari sepatu LDW sama SE aja, intinya si minimalisir Arpen
    Kalo SE vs Bryntoll vs Cryptmaker, who wins?
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    serah sih bhasamu, klo menurutku jauh dari ga guna

    emang klo gearnya masih 251-264 sih kelihatannya ga guna
    klo udah pake heroic jadi guna...
    tambah tinggi arpen tambah gede dps yg dihasilkan

    ini list BiS Heroic dari Elitist
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    yg heroic all item
    Head: Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet
    Neck: Sindragosa's Cruel Claw
    Shoulders: Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates
    Back: Shadowvault Slayer's Cloak
    Chest: Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate
    Wrist: Polar Bear Claw Bracers
    Wrist(Alliance): Toskk's Maximized Wristguards
    Hands: Fleshrending Gauntlets
    Waist: Astrylian's Sutured Cinch
    Legs: Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates
    Feet: Frostbitten Fur Boots
    Finger1: Band of the Bone Colossus
    Finger2: Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance
    Trinket1: Death's Choice
    Trinket2: Tiny Abomination in a Jar
    Main Hand: Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General or Shadowmourne
    Ranged: Libram of Three Truths

    Sebagian off-set nya pake arpen : Neck, wrist klo ally, waist dan feet
    senjata juga pake oathbinder yg arpennya gede (glorenzelg kebanyakan exp juga ga guna)
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    Dk Uh PVE
    BiS - Sharpened Twilight Scale
    BiS - Deathbringer's Will
    2nd - Sharpened Twilight Scale
    3rd - Death's Verdict (A)
    4nd - Deathbringer's Will
    5rd - Herkuml War Token

    klo buat pvpnya selain human sih tinggal tambahin Medalion
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