nicknya konan itu The Barbarian :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by [ht]rathalos
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nicknya konan itu The Barbarian :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by [ht]rathalos
sapa tu the barbarian?? konan yg mana uy.. --a
warning....Quote:
Originally Posted by the_omicron
gw liat kyk gini lg... gw infract point... ngerti ?
ngerti kk blood...
btw ini bener2 hari tersiksa kita tanpa manga yaw..
uda brp minggu ni tanpa manga...
bosen niy...
ga bisa menganalisa apa yg bakal tjd setelahnya.... >.<
btw ni thread lama2 jd thread detektif2an yg nyelidikin naruto yaw...
isinya analisis2 smua..
tp banyak yg ga jls... ^^
smuga tgl 20 uda ada manganya!! amin!!
gw sendiri netral & no comment ama teori tsunade... tapi misalkan begini :Quote:
Originally Posted by fadillah46
umur kabuto saat pertama x ketemu tsunade itu sekitar 19thn... jadi kira2 dah berpisah 15 taun lebih.. masuk akal kan kalo masing2 ga saling mengenal ^^.Quote:
misal.... masih misal loh.... kalo teori itu bener.... berarti Tsunade wanita yang kejam....
Masa' uda 2 kali ketemuan ma anaknya ..... ga direspon sama sekali....
yang diinget juga malah cuma dan & nawaki.... anaknya..... ga diinget sama sekali.... hiks hiks....
jangan lupa ma kemampuan tsunade yg bisa memanipulasi umur (seperti kata jiraiya ^^)Quote:
Tsunade di awal muncul.... 50 tahun - 20 tahun GNW 2nd dan 3rd.... = 30 tahun...
Umur dan 27 tahun waktu GNW 2... masak tsunade ma dan tua an tsunade??
masak muka umur 30 tahun kayak gitu seh??? ~_~
masuk akal juga kan ^^
tapi...
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Originally Posted by fadillah46
busedd.... skali lagi misal teori di atas benar.... misal ..... skali lagi misal...
di umur 30 tahunan tsunade uda bisa jurus manipulasi umur.... >,<
legendary sannin.... emang keren!!!....
eh, masak tsunade gurunya cuma sandaime doang???
kalo orochimaru itukan dengan riset2.... penelitian gila2an....
jiraiya ngikutin elder frog...
tsunade?? apa cuma ngikutin garis keturunan??
Kenapa Sandaime mengkhawatirkan yg ketiga ???Quote:
Originally Posted by JanganGori
Ya karna lebih baik lwn 3 org (+orochimaru) daripada lwn 4org....
@Fadillah
Yah dari kakeknya aja bisa jadi first hokage....
Pasti dia sebagai keturunannya mendapat keahlian dari kakeknya << menurut gw
dah gitu pamannya juga Hokage kedua....
Justru yang gw bingung sama Pein....
Bisa ngebunuh sendirian Ninja yang ngangkat Jiraya,Tsunade,Orchimaru jadi 3 sannin....
Padahal 3 sannin gk bisa ngalahin Ninja itu ( gw lupa namanya)
Bayangin aja sedewa apa si Pein....
itu bukan yondaime yg ngawatirin peti ke 3 kk.. tp sandaime dunkQuote:
Originally Posted by JopunkOnly
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Originally Posted by Uchiha-Sassuke
Sry ya slh nulis.....
Thx ralatnya, maklum manusia biasa....^^
Oh iy ada yang tau tentang Zetsu gk ???
Selain bisa nembus2 benda + punya 2 kepribadian....
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eh, masak tsunade gurunya cuma sandaime doang???
kalo orochimaru itukan dengan riset2.... penelitian gila2an....
jiraiya ngikutin elder frog...
tsunade?? apa cuma ngikutin garis keturunan??
guru saat itu bukan sandaime doang kan >< sandaime kan cuma guru utama team ( kek kakashi ma naruto cs kan ada guru lain kyk iruka, azuma, gai dll). ga harus terfokus ma 1 guru ><Quote:
@Fadillah
Yah dari kakeknya aja bisa jadi first hokage....
Pasti dia sebagai keturunannya mendapat keahlian dari kakeknya << menurut gw
dah gitu pamannya juga Hokage kedua....
err hanzou ?Quote:
Justru yang gw bingung sama Pein....
Bisa ngebunuh sendirian Ninja yang ngangkat Jiraya,Tsunade,Orchimaru jadi 3 sannin....
Padahal 3 sannin gk bisa ngalahin Ninja itu ( gw lupa namanya)
Bayangin aja sedewa apa si Pein....
btw.. ke 6 tubuh pein smuanya di kenali ma jiraiya.. & salah 1 nya (yg mirip deidara) pernah menjadi lawan jiraiya di masa lalu... mungkin juga ke 5 tubuh lainnya curiga ada sesuatu ma jiraiya... hanzou pun... yg dulu ngalahin jiraya cs. di bunuh juga ma pein...
arghh pusing ma makhluk 1 ini >< mending nunggu chapter berikutnya Y_Y..
ultimate qute :
my fave quote ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by fadillah46
maaf deh kk ::oops::Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyElf
aku tahu lah kk.... banyak banget guru2 dari jiraiya-sama, orochimaru-san, dan granny-basama, tp...
bisa sebutin nama g?? sapa kira kira gurunya Granny??
berita acara pending chapter 385....
1. diumumkan keluar tanggal 14....
2. diumumkan keluar tanggal 18....
3. diumumkan keluar tanggal antara 21-26...
maka pending2an seharusnya tidak terjadi lagi....
pepatah jawa mengatakan.... "peng telu biasane" 3 kali biasanya, sesuatu terjadi ber kali2
(inilah limpahan jiwa orang frustrasi nunggu manga T_T)
lah dipending lagi?? :surprise:
Here's what i think happened the night of the kyuubi attack and i believe it was all because of Uzamaki Kushina. I have spent some time thinking about the three major questions about Naruto's past
1- Why does no one know that he is the fourth's son/why do only a select few people know who Uzamaki Kushina was
2- Why was naruto named Uzamaki instead of Namikaze
3- What happened to Kushina and why did Minato seal the demon fox into his own son
Now 3 has been some what answered in the manga. Minato wanted naruto to complete a technique that had somthing to do with the demon fox having to be sealed in him, but this opens other questions what is this technique and why must naruto complete it. Some people think the technique is the only way to stop Akatsuki, but i think its somthing more then that(although it will stop Akatsuki)
So here is the theory or more a story and see what you think. The Uchiha clans true purpose was to guard the demon fox and make sure the it never awakened. Madara was angry at the uchiha clan for not making use of there power to control the demon fox to gain fame, glory, world conquest, etc... After the first shinobi war ended Madara made his move in the aftermath and attempted to summon the demon fox on another country bordering the leaf(this would explain why Shodai and Madara fought between the borders of the fire and rice country because Madara was going to summon the demon fox onto the rice or another country). Shodai found out and fought madara at the VOTE and was able to defeat Madara entirely.
However the Demon Fox was summoned and shodai was forced to seal the creature inside of a person from a different country aka a Whirl Pool Village shinobi(yes i am suggesting the whirl pool village was once in the rice field country or another country bordering the leaf and pretty close to the VOTE). Two things i believe happened that day
1- Shodai sealed the demon fox inside of a shinobi from another powerfull shinobi village which made it impossible for any other rebel Uchiha to gain the fox's power w/o taking on a whole village and it also made the demon fox dissappear from Konoha and thus left people clueless to what exactly happened to the fox.
2- I believe the demon fox wanting to be free again used some of its power to revive Madara or give him a half life. I want to note here that the power of the Ranningan is rebirth(this will be explored latter). Madara thus lived on with the purpose of freeing and ultimately making the demon fox whole again in order to use its power, but he had no clue that the demon fox was sealed inside of a shinobi from the whirl pool village. So for a time Madara dissappeared from the leaf all together to look for the demon fox or spent many years looking for the demon fox in secret in konoha(it doesn't matter point is he couldn't find the fox
At this point Shodai returns to konoha entrusting the information of the where abouts of the demon fox to only a select few people(nindaime and possible Sarutobi). Soon after the wounds from his battle with Madara coupled with the second great shinobi war(or the end of the first not sure which) led to his death and Nindaime took over. Time went on and eventually Sarutobi passed the information of where the demon fox was to his two star pupils Jiriaya and Orochimaru. It is here that i believe Sandaime made a crucail mistake he believed in Orochimaru and thus told him information that could easly be used against the leaf. Soon after Orochimaru learned that the demon fox was somwhere in the hidden Whirl pool village he sold Konoha out to Akatsuki who he knew were looking for the tailed beasts/the demon fox. I believe he sold Konoha out because Madara/Pain/whoever was acting commander of Akatsuki at that time promised to show him how to gain immortality or that he would gain it when they completed there goals
This is why only a year or less after Orochimaru left Konoha that the events of the demon fox happen because he is the one who told Akatsuki that it could be found in the hidden whirlpool village. However Jiriaya followed Orochimaru and using his sources or his own spying ability he was able to figure out that Orochimaru was now working for an organization after the demon fox. Jiriaya told the fourth about the movements of this organization and both began to work towards finding out about the organization. Jiriaya was going to use his spy network to discover who was in the organization and Minato's job was to find the location of the Demon Fox in the hidden whirl pool village
Minato found the Jinchuriki a girl the same age as him named Uzamaki Kushina. At first he was only visting to make sure she was safe, but eventually he fell in love with kushina and married her. However he only told Jiriaya, Tsunade, and possibly Sarutobi about his relationship with Kushina because her identity as the kyuubi jinchuriki had to be kept secret. For awhile there was no movement from Akatsuki and Minato/Kushina lived in peace and Kushina even became pregnant with naruto. Jiriaya would watch over Kushina when Minato wasn't around and both continued to investigate Akatsuki.
Eventually Akatsuki was able to figure that Minato had infact discovered the identity of the Demon Fox's Jinchuriki in the whirlpool, but they had not learned her name and identity for themselves. So they decieded the night of the kyuubi attack to create a trap for Minato. It would be simple for them to spy on where Minato went when he was in the whirlpool village, but Minato had recently become hokage and thus wasn't around in the Whirlpool village much anymore so they had to draw him out. Knowing that Minato's weakness was his wish to protect his precious people they probably some how leaked information to jiriaya about how Akatsuki was going to attack the Whirlpool village. Minato rushed to the whirlpool village, but Madara followed him and finally figured out who the Jinchuriki was, but he still didn't know what her name was
Madara and Minato fought each other, but Madara succeeded in removing the seal on Kushina(which wasn't nearly as powerfull as the shikka seal) and summoning the kyuubi. The strain of some one removing a bijuu caused Kushina to die, but her child some how lived on. The kyuubi destroyed all of the whirlpool village in the aftermath wipping the village of the map. Minato was able to extract his newborn son and was forced to result to his back up plan. He was going to use the Forbidden technique Shikka Fuujin to seal the bijuu into his own son. Minato knew that the only way to truely put an end to people using the demon fox's power for evil was if he could some destroy it. Knowing that no mortal man was capable of killing the fox he had in advanced devised a jutsu that would destroy the fox by the new Jinchuriki completely mastering the fox and completeling the forbidden shikka seal by merging with the fox.
This ment that not only would the Jinchuriki be given insane power(enough power to defeat Akatsuki, Orochimaru, etc... but that once the technique was completed it would not be possible to extract the demon fox from naruto. Madara during this time sent the fox after konoha in an argant attempt at vengance. Minato showed up sealing the fox in naruto and splitting its chakra to make it easier for naruto to slowly merge with the fox completely(this is also why the Shikka seal is desinged to slowly leak the fox chakra). Minato instructed Jiriaya or Sarutobi that the naruto would be named Uzamaki Naruto isntead of namikaze. Since Madara/Akatsuki never knew what Kushina's real name or full name was they would not be able to easly discover the identity of the new Demon Fox Jinchuriki especailly since naruto was for most of his life destined to be a sub par orphan
Minato dieded leaving the secrets of the shikka seal to Jiriaya and Sarutobi, they being the ones he hoped would guide naruto down the path of his destiny. Again this is why Jiriaya has always been trying to get naruto to use the demon fox's power and gain mastery of it becuase he knew that as soon as naruto became even a semi famous ninja Akatsuki would discover the connection and come after him. Which naruto did just that during the Chuunin exam arc....infront of all the judges and possibly spy's he showed off a strang power that allowed him to defeat neji. Although most of shinobi in konoha already knew that he was the nine tails jinchuriki because of the rule instated that none were suppose to talk about it naruto was safe for a very long time....at least up until the point where he showed off the power of the demon fox in the chuunin exams
This is why shortly after the exams Itachi and Kisame arrive and attack naruto. It is also possible that Akatsuki had the information of who the Demon fox was for some time thanks to Itachi. But for reasons that have to do with a whole other theoy about Itachi(which i won't get into here) i don't think that Itachi told Madara/Akatsuki who the Demon Fox's jinchuriki was even if he knew. So the Chuunin exams was the first time that Akatsuki gained complete knowledge of who the Jinchuriki of the demon fox was.
Naruto was also kept from the information of who his parents were because Jiriaya/Sandaime feared that naruto would give away such information as a kid or go in search of his mother/fathers murder(much like Sasuke did with Itachi). They are instead waiting for the right momment to reveal this info to naruto. Jiriaya probably decied that when naruto has the skill to complete the fourth's jutsu he would then tell him of his parents.
Itachi and Kisame failed and thus during the three year time skip Akatsuki couldn't get close to naruto because not only was jiriaya with him, but he was always on the move and his location was impossible to tell.
To cover a few things i didn't state in the above story or a few questions people might have is the following
Does this mean Madara is the Real Leader of Akatsuki?
No infact although i won't go into detail right now i believe the Demon Fox is the True leader of Akatsuki. Madara is his vessel or the one doing his dirty work. The Demon Fox is actually Rikudo Sage. Now before you flame me think about it a little bit Rikudo has fox ears and is shown with a connection to the sharingan via the tome neckless he wears. Also think about why Uchiha can Summon the kyuubi or supress its chakra....its beacuase the kyuubi is Rikudo and also posses one of the three great dojutsu(i think that they are connected). However Rikudo long ago had his body sealed away in the hell god statue when he became to powerfull by the people. His spirit could not be sealed tho and became the demon fox. The uchiha where assinged to guard the spirit of rikudo, but some(madara) wished to make Rikudo whole again for power, end to war, etc..
Thus Akatsuki's real goal is to create a new perfect body for Rikudo. The ultimate enemy naruto will have to fight is the Demon Fox and finally merge with it completely to prevent Rikudo from ever being reborn. This is also why Madara/Itachi are always talking about vessels(i also believe they want Sasuke to be rikudo's new vessel or at least madara does). Another thing that should be mentioned is that the hell god statue/machine was created to break the shikka seal and extract the kyuubi. Rember chiyo states that inorder to extract a bijuu a chakra source equal to it if on for an instant is neccessary since no human(even crazy powerfull ones like Madara, Zetsu, Pain, etc... has the chakra compacity to extract the kyuubi all 8 other bijuu where neccessary to break the seal and create a chakra equal to the kyuubi's for an instant. This is also why Itachi states the kyuubi must be sealed last or the machine would be destroyed and why so much importance is put on order
Finally i will mention that the rings where orginally created by Rikudo sage and thats why its impossible to replace them. The rings allow the members to use the power of the bijuu sealed in the statue to generate a chakra source. Now you may be asking why doesn't madara just summon the kyuubi from naruto like he did with kushina...my answer is that the Shikka Seal(a seal created by a God of Death) is to powerfull to be un done even by some one with the power to summon the demon fox(unlike Kushina's seal which was probably much weaker....like how Garaa's seal was inferior to naruto's). Again this is why the Hell God Statue/Machine is so crucail because only through the method previously described can the demon fox be sealed
1x lagi itu cuma teori...but that's impressive teory
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