Kk sekalian... nanya dong gimana buat build yang bagus untuk Kael the Invoker?
Bingung bener gw pake ini hero... ~_~
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Kk sekalian... nanya dong gimana buat build yang bagus untuk Kael the Invoker?
Bingung bener gw pake ini hero... ~_~
gw juga baru make 1x
dia g ada atribute skill jadi ngandelin skill kombinasi 1 + 2 + 3
awal2 emg bingungin
tapi dia bagus kalo maek meteor utk creepingan
animasi meteorna juga bagus :D
ato kalo by1 pake skill ice yg tiap kali di hit musuh bakal kena stun,,enak itu
tapi semua tergantung seh
kalo perkara item,,dia base kan int jadi beliin item2 utk hero int aja spt eul ato guinsoo
tetep int = suport << nurut gw ini
invoker paling bagus jurus sabit nya tuh...hero musuh jadi kegeser kek bash nya baratum abis itu kena silen..
lu pada kok bisa dapet 6.50??
dl dimana? bukanny indo lom kuar?
cepet juga y tauny, baru kuar kemaren
itu yg kena stun kalo di tinggal tetep kena stun lho kalo creepQuote:
Originally Posted by mixone19
coba deh :D~
masi baru kok coba liat di sticky general discussionQuote:
Originally Posted by el1x1r90
Wa uda nyoba pake guinsoo enak juga.... Regen mana cpt... isa mensupport mana.. abis skil butuh mananya lumayan gede seh............ iya sabit enak tu.. keren jg animasi.... eh tp cyclonenya jg enak lo... 375 damage.... cuman butuh 150 mana kl g salah....??trus yg kek petir.................. bisa ngeburn mana si musuh........ kayaknya... trus Kael jg bisa ngilang kan?pake ghost walk?Kudu pinter ramu Jamunya ini hero..... hehheheh
:capede:
skill summonnya bagus apa enggak sih??
kayaknya sih bagus ya . .
belum coba nih
keknya build invoker menurut wa fokus ke salah satu orb yg pengen kita ambil jurusnya biar damage skillnya dalem dolo
Buat skill :
Ambil Wex (attack speed + movespeed) full
Ambil Exort (+Attack) full
2 skill invoke / 4 skill invoke
dan sisanya baru Quas
Item :
Vanguard (Core)
dan item sisanya memang masih bingung :(
Skill yg bagus :
QWE : Damage, knock back, and prevent enemies from attack
Hero haruslah solo diawal-awal karena dia tidak memiliki skill yang berguna sebelum lvl 6, skill 1 sampai 3 itu jangan dihitung sebagai skill, anggap saja attribut bonus yang memberikan ASPD, Damage, atau Regen HP. Baru deh klo udah lvl bisa sedikit lega karena punya skill yang bisa digunakan untuk ngekill musuh atau rush tower, hero backgroundnya juga belum ada, di forumnya ada kontes buat bikin cerita latar belakang si invoker, bagi yang pengen namanya nongol di Dota bisa ikutan berpartisipasi.
Hmmm... Klo gw early game maen tornado sama EMP... Sakit tuh...
Truz klo exortnya dah mantep maen summon, sama 'skil yang kalo musuh digebuk kena stun'... Trus invoke deh ke skill aspdnya Kael... Dijamin PermaBash dah itu...
Yang penting, jago2 sama cepet2 nge-invoke skill sesuai keadaan...
Skill Defeaning Blastnya mantep juga... Bikin bola EMp ataw Chaos meteor di deket Kael... (pake blink dagger) blink ke belakang barisan musuh, blast langsung... Diem-Kena Meteor/EMP-Damage blastnya... buat war mantep euy
bknny dy dah bisa ngeluarin skill pas lv 5 yah om.. bingung neh soalny delay skilnya lama2Quote:
Originally Posted by -Davion-
kalo kga salah skill invoke di ambil lvl 5,10,15,20
Deafening blast buat apa coba... cman nahan serangan kan? tetep ajah musuh isa ngestun =.="
ni kael bikin sebel jg, skill ada 10, tapi gak ada stunnya...
gw pengen tau nih:
1. summon (spirit forge yha?) bagus gak sich?
2. Tornado tuh berapa lama terbangnya?
3. EMP tuh ngapaen? cman damage doank?
klo gw kasih comment 1-1:
EEE (sun blast?) > delaynya kelamaan, mending LSAnya Lina de...
EEQ (Chaos Meteor) > bagus dan keren, karena areanya gede, lmayan klo lagi war...
EEW (Spirit Forge) > Entahlah, gw masih bingung summonnya bagus ato gak, bentar sich lifetimenya...
QQQ (Cold Snap) > Bagus, klo lagi ngincer hero, kasih ginian!
QQE (Ice Wall) > Astaga, gw kira pertama kali kayak fissure, rupanya kagak, buat apa donk?
QQW (Ghost Walk) > Buat apa? kabur doank paling, klo buat ngejer mah gw pilih tornado biar gw bisa deketin, trus pake Cold Snap
WWW () > Asik nih, kaish ke hero damager jadi sakit
WWE (Tornado) Bagus sebagai pembuka, deketin, baru keluarin combo
WWQ (EMP) gw gak ngerti, ini cman damage doank gak sich?
QWE (Deafening Blast) > Bagus sich buat lawan damager, tapi buat caster?
(asik, gw dah apal)
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ice wall keknya bagusan wat mass creeping deh sama kek rolling stone(chaos meteor) tp +slow(keknya)
emp butuh timing wat meledak jd butuh stunner keknya mana drainnya area
spirit forge bisa reduce armor<<<<kga yakin juga
yg QWE itu bagus wat ngejer ama escape deh preventing attacknya kek stun
kalo sun strike memang lebih lama delaynya dr skillnya lina
gwa pribadi enakan ambil tornado ama yg QWE
btw cold snap effectna apa yah?
gw aja baru apal bbrp doank,nice.... klo dah lvl 20 biasa gw pake yangQuote:
Originally Posted by M4Ste12
meteor, blast, emp, ghost walk,tornado, sama cold snap (cooldown 5 second aja, mana regen kyk *****)
Tp sedih... pgn coba... pasti selalu keduluan org... cara byar dpt cpt gmn seh???
klik kiri plus pencet-pencet shortcutnya . . .
nggak penting banget seh -_-''
life time summonnya bukannya bisa ampe 70 sec??
kalo gg salah tergantung sama skill quasnya . . .
alah ini hero bikin pala muter2 aj...cape ngapalin ramuan jurusna satu persatu..
Seandainya ada kata2 kunci yang bisa mempermudah ngapalin ramuan jurus nya entu...ada ga ya??????:wink:
hmm qLo gw dah lancar gw pasti ngandelin skill2 combo nya,,,pertama2 terbangin pake tornado...bis entu ice waLL...langsung cepet2 ganti skill(bakat tukang copet sangat dibutuhkan)...Timpa pake skill "ChaOs MeTeor" di tutup make Jurus "SaBiT" apa sih tuh namana lUpa..HehE..mO9a aj gw cepet lancar ya..:tease:
yup..itu time sumondnya emg bebarengan ama cooldown skillnya sendiriQuote:
Originally Posted by zodiark
jadi g memungkinkan utk sumond 2 buah kecuali refresher ::lol::
skill sumondnya melting strike ke heroes..
artinya apa tu ya..??
coba dibacaQuote:
skill sumondnya melting strike ke heroes..
artinya apa tu ya..??
itu klo gak salah nurunin armor musuh pas nyerang...
cara ngapalinnya cukup gampang koq, pertama apalin elemen2nya
Q > es
W > listrik/angin
E > api
trus apalin jg statusnya:
E > damage
W > Movement
misalnya, meteor = EEQ
karena meteor tuh panas, jadi banyak Enya (api), trus karena abis itu dia gerak, berarti ada Qnya
trus klo Cold Snap, karena emank dingin, dan gak ada status apa2 lagi, jadi dia pasti QQQ
Tornado yha, karena dia angin, jadi pasti depannya WW, dan dia tipe serangan jadi ditambah E
dsb dst
(kadang2 suka ketuker antara tornado ama EMP soalnya, tornado kan gerak, jadi gw kira pertama kali tuh WWQ, rupanya EMP yang WWQ, sedangkan tornado WWE)
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House : What, you stayed up all night and come up with nothing?
Cameron : But at least now we can cast aside many diseases!
House : Sure, now we know that 2 + 2 doesn't equal 25!
Chase : *Comes into the room* Here's a report from the lab, it looks like the problem is with her ....
House : Awesome, great work!
Cameron : But he went home yesterday!
House : I told you to work smart, not hard.
Summonnya cukup bagus
Terus ... EMP itu buat bakar mana + damage
Tornadonya cuma menerbangkan lawan cuma 2.2 detik
enak tuh si master.. maen di rumah tgl tiap buka komp bisa ngerti ramuan2 nya..
gua maen di net.. bisa apa.. T_T
invoker harus pinter kombine skill 1 2 3...
tapi ke kurangan kael tuh...
Hp nya na ujubilahh dah!!...
kecil bgt...
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zed zed maen di warnet juga bisa kali maen singel matchQuote:
Originally Posted by stupack
oo jadi melting tu ngurangin armor...
makanya waktu autocast gw klik ke unit ga bisa
tu cm ngepek ke heroes
cara apaliinnya klo gw ampir sama kyk maste12, tp gw tambahin lg biar ga ketuker
cth : Tornado kan elemen angin, trus musuhnya abis di tornado ga isa gerak (anggep ke freeze), jdnya yah WWQ (Q = es) . trus sisanya emp kan
trus klo antara QQW ama QQE, Ghost walk gw inget cara ktawa hantu "KIKIKIKI" (QQ) , trus namanya jg Ghost Walk, jd klo disingkat yah QQW (QQ = ktawa hantu, W = Walk), trus sisanya elemen es, QQE = Ice wall
trus bwt EEQ, ma EWE / EEW...gw inget, klo bntuk summon kael tuh jelek, kyk "EEQ"
trus klo meteor, ni gmpng ingetnya.....meteor kan kliatannya sakit, jd kael msti mikir, klo mau nge EWE-2 musuh, pake aja meteor....trus klo musuh kena full damage yg sakit, musuh bakal komen "EEW" ....bisa jg, EE = Api , W = berjalan,
EDITED :
Invoker:
Quote:
Orb Bonuses:
=========
Each orb gives a special bonus when it is on active. They all scale linearly. You can have 3 orbs on you at any given point, and there are 7 levels, so 7*3=21 maximum level of power on any specific orb.
Quas - 0.75 hp bonus regen per level per instance
Exort - 3 damage per level per instance
Wex - 2% AS and 1% MS per level per instance
Orb Combinations:
============
There are 10 combinations total. Order is not a consideration. So if you have 2 exort and 1 quas, thats all that matters, not which came first. It is more intuitive and usable than before. The abilities are based on which properties form them.
The 10 combinations are: QQQ, QQE, WWQ, QQW, EEE, EEQ, EEW, WWW, WWE, QWE.
Invoke:
======
As previously stated, this has 4 levels.. There is a new mechanic here that didn't exist before. Its dual invokes. This is allowed on higher levels of Invoke.
Level 1: 30 CD, 20 Manacost
Level 2: 30 CD, 40 Manacost, 2 Invokes
Level 3: 15 CD, 60 Manacost, 2 Invokes
Level 4: 5 CD, 80 Manacost, 2 Invokes
Current Invoke Spells:
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500/675/900/1100/1300/1500/1700
EEW - Chaos Meteor:
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This is mainly fire and aoe. It travels long distance based on Wex and damages based on Exort. Deals 80/110/140/170/200/230/260 damage per second in a 300 moving area. Damage is done in 0.5 intervals, it does not damage over time on the burnt ground, only on the meteor itself as it is moving. Distance goes from 500 up to 1550. Units that get hit by this have a damage over time fire on them. The damage over time is 1/5 of what the regual damage is, and lasts 2 seconds.
Cooldown: 30
Manacost: 200
WWE - EMP:
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Deals damage from 120 up to 300 in a 700 area, based on Exort. same for mana loss, but based on Wex. The speed of the detonation is 4 seconds, down to 2 on max Wex. This is a target point effect, you target a location and the charge builds up there.
ooldown: 40
Manacost: 250
WWQ - Tornado:
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This is a long range fast moving semi-disable ability. It cyclones units in its path, then damages them when they land. Damage is from 175 to 350 based on Wex and Quas. Distance is from 700 to 3100 Wex based. Airtime is from 0.4 to 2.2 Quas based.
Cooldown: 25
Manacost: 150
QQW - Ghost Walk:
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This is a wind walk variation. You become invisible, but you move slower. Enemy units near you move slower as well. The amount you are slowed by in wind walk is Wex based from 30% to 0% and the amount the enemies are slowed is Quas based from 10% to 40%.
Cooldown: 60
Manacost: 300
QWE - Deafening Blast:
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This is a line ability. A projectile flies and knockbacks units in its way, making them unable to attack for a period of time. Damage is Exort based, 40->280. Attack Silence duration is Wex based, from 1 to 4 seconds. Knockback duration is based on Quas, from 0.25 to 1.75. The attack silence effect starts after the knockback is done processing.
Cooldown: 25
Manacost: 200
QQE - Ice Wall:
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Slows based on Quas, not sure how meaningful numbers are here, it needs a visual test because of the way its implemented. Its basically the same as the old Ice Wall, except instead of making you crawl to a halt instantly at level 1, it now slows based on Quas level. The duration the icewall is alive is from 3 to 10 seconds. Deals 5->30 dps based on Exort.
Cooldown: 20
Manacost: 125
EEE - Sun Strike:
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Global cast range. Targets a 200 aoe area. Has 2 second cast delay. Deals aoe damage based on Exort from 75 to 450 damage. Spreads the damage over the number of units in the area.
Cooldown: 60
Manacost: 250
QQQ - Cold Snap:
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Single enemy target. This causes any damage dealt to the target to create a ministun effect (0.2). Duration is based on Quas, from 3 to 6 seconds. Triggers maximum once every .7/.65/.6/.55/.5/.45/.4 seconds. 1000 cast range. Deals 25 damage per freeze.
Cooldown: 20
Manacost: 100
WWW - Alacrity:
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Targets an allied unit. Gives a surge of attack speed for a brief period. Lasts 5 seconds. Gives 40/60/80/100/120/140/160
Cooldown: 20
Manacsot: 125
EEQ - Forge Spirit:
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Lava Spawn Model
Attack Range: 300/400/500/600/700/800/900 (Exort based)
Hit Points: 300/400/500/600/700/800/900 (Exort based)
Damage: 29/38/47/56/65/74/83 (Exort based)
Mana Base: 100/150/200/250/300/350/400 (Quas based)
Duration: 20/30/40/50/60/70 (Quas based)
Armor: 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 (Quas based)
Mana Regen: 4
Movement Speed: 320
Melting Strike:
Costs 40 Mana. This is an arrow effect. It has no cooldown. Upon impact on the target, lowers armor by 1. Stacks up to 10. Effect Lasts 5 seconds from the last sucessful melting strike hit. This hits heroes only. Starts off autocasted. It has 33% magic resistance. When Quas and Exort are maxed out, it spawns 2 instead.
Summon Cooldown: 70
Summon Manacost: 200
hero barunya gak ada + jadi lemah!!!
max hp paling 1300(murni tanpa equip)
kalo musuh buat hood damagenya juga gak dalem!
cuma isa pake 2 skil lagi! harusnya semua isa di pake bersamaan!
jadi combo tuh!
@ atas.. kalo tangan lw cepet bisa make 3 skill kok
klo gue maen invoker selalu pake skill combo chaos meteor + Deafening Blast jadi pas meteornya gelinding gue lsg pake Deafening Blast buat kebelakangin jd kan hero musuhnya ngikutin jalur meteornya tuh( klo buat ke creep dijamin creepnya lsg musnah) , trs gue siapin skill ice wall jd sebelumnya pencet QQE dulu nah klo 2 skill yg td dah dipake gue tgl pencet r buat buka skillnya
klo masalah itemnya ini yg gue masih bingung, gue sih slalu buat eyes skadi + item nambah mana, tp herannya susah bgt neh hero buat ngebunuh musuh jadi biasanya gue klo pake ini buat ngurangin hp musuh doank jd temen2 kita doank yg tgl abisin hauhahaua
gw coba pake chaos meteor + ghost walk, biar cepet cari duit...,en pake desolator + cuirass
forge spirit tuh skill kyk gimana?
kalo maw liat combo2 ny sih di dota tinggal ketik -invokelist nanti kluar combo-combony... yg bagus si keknya yg mundurin lawan trus kluar tanda seru am meteor buat nyapu bersih creep
melting strike itu efeknya kurangin armor gitu, ampir kyk deso deh...
tp gw lbh mikir lbh bagus beli radiance, kan ghost walk (QQW+R) (perma invi kl g slh), dah slow, radiance juga... ouch!!!
menurut gw summon invoker adalah yang paling ga guna... dari semua skill.
Damage kecil. ok lah bwt akhir2 nambah armada perang.
Yup gw setuju ma M4ste12, soal ngasi aspd ke temen, kasi ke jarakal mokad de musuh ga gerak jamin !! 160% + 120 % aspd.
tp untuk 5 detik
jd mending kasih ke ursa ^^
oh iya kalo ursa gt itungannya gmn?? bukannya 400% aspd ud maximum??
kalo di tambahin skillnya invoker ap masi isa nambah??
gak isa nambah
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Quote:
House : What, you stayed up all night and come up with nothing?
Cameron : But at least now we can cast aside many diseases!
House : Sure, now we know that 2 + 2 doesn't equal 25!
Chase : *Comes into the room* Here's a report from the lab, it looks like the problem is with her ....
House : Awesome, great work!
Cameron : But he went home yesterday!
House : I told you to work smart, not hard.
summon nya bisa 2 kalo exort ama quas dah lvl 7
melting strike : kurangin amor musuh stackable smpe -10 armor
pake invoker ga usa repot"
awal2 meteor, klo mo nyampah sun strike, klo kabur QQWRV (langsung ilang, asal lu apal aja tombolnya)
tengah2 sampe akhir (blom akhir aja dah menang) sih paing meteor > blast
bisa langsung mati tuh hero empuk
Forge spirit : summon spirit, punya attack chaos, range 900, hp 900++ dan ada melting down strike, bila level Quas dan Exort penuh ... bisa summon sampai 4 summonQuote:
Originally Posted by APV_mobile
Yakin lo ? gwe bilang malah skill Forge Spirit itu paling bagus, karena damage chaos dan bisa tower sniping ...Quote:
Originally Posted by inter-10
Ghostwalk terlalu mahal (mana 300 cooldown 60 detik) lebih bagus kalau icewall atau cukup larikan diri anda dengan tombol WWW (menambah movespeed)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch41n_L19htn1n9
Ngomong" sekarang Ka'el ada bugnya yah..??
gimana sih caranya klo boolee tau...!!