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    thread starternya plater .. cmiiw ..

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    ia kk tp kan ni lg bahas chimera shot yg dmgna nature... mau dia cloth / plate sama aja, kecuali yg dibahas disini DPS baru kerasa beda, ada 2 tipe dmg, auto shoot (fisik) sama chimera (nature)

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    sory nih dlo gw maen hunter ga jago" bgt ka
    dlu damage kill shot aja cma paling gede k plater cma 4k crit chimera paling gede 4k ++ ga tembus 5k++ wkt bg + arena
    masa skrg tmbus sgtu??palhol gw jg d hajar sama hunter horde d arena pede bukan maen padahal resi 1232.
    dan jga dl nge-raid damage hunter jarang masuk 5 besar (rata2 dominasi paly n caster)
    tp skrg damage raid hunter jg bsa ampe 17k pdhl gear sama dgn hunter gw dl(apa gw nya yg gbsa rotasi ya megang hunter 1 thn T_T)

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    kill shoot 1 1 nya skill yang bner2 buat exec dah dmgnya, ga kek exec war, hammer paly

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    ***** cewe gue dijadiin avatar... kampreeet!!! >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnu6 View Post
    ngomong2 tentang hunter, itu pet ravagernya kok banyak yg larinya kayak mobil bugatti ya ? ngebut bener
    itu normal apa abnormal tuh :P
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    ^ Abnormal itu ravager, lagi dicari fix nya.

    Btw, tolong thread dijaga on topic, kalau gak saya close nanti.

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    Ane mo nimbrung ngomong dikit gan

    Emg damage hunter naik akhir2 ini ternyata bukan gue doang yg ngerasain

    gue seorang wl human resil 1100 arenaan 2s dengan seorang palhol. Rat 1700. pengalaman sabtu sore main 2x lawan hunter bm - disc. Ga sampe semenit gue udah tergeletak tak bernyawa. Pristnya cuma numpang nonton

    Padahal biasanya ga pernah mati secepet ini sama hunter, bahkan lawan 2dps macam ele destro

    yang aneh pas pintu kebuka hunternya segede pintu (sumpah ane sempet bingung juga liatnya kaya raksasa)
    Kesimpulan gue waktu itu apa gara2 beastial wrath + aimed shot+dbw ? Padahal pally partner udah spam heal. Sering lawan mm survi dulu pun ga sesakit ini damagenya

    Sori gaada ss, kelupaan saking keselnya. cuma mau share doang. Apakah damage hunter bug?

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    ya kalo size dari character bisa jg dari debuff teleport engine yg dimensional ripper apalah itu..
    saya pribadi coba BM baru 1x itupun imut2 damage nya.. and aimed shot perasaan cm nambahin ranged damage sama reduce heal doang dech..

    anyway ya semoga di fix lah itungan damage nya jgn kurang banget jgn jg lebih banget.. bete juga kalo dsini ternyata positif 'bug' trus d nerf jadi kekecilan demek nya /facepalm dah lawan WL / shaman ele tuh hunter..
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    Hmm, sepertinya kurang 1 hunter dewa lagi yang belom comment ini. Sek2, summoning Xphaze.. Barangkali dia ngerti. Dulu kan dia suka utak utik talent sama stats.
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    8k chimera crits on warrior "human" biasa aja tuh..
    dan ga ada bukti juga kalau pas kamu d tembak pake shield + def stance ?
    wsg... hunters mark on target + might + king + buff druid + totem/shout DK + buff arcane mage ? saya ga tau.. atau berserk buff ? ga tau juga kan.. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by venomblade View Post
    8k chimera crits on warrior "human" biasa aja tuh..
    dan ga ada bukti juga kalau pas kamu d tembak pake shield + def stance ?
    wsg... hunters mark on target + might + king + buff druid + totem/shout DK + buff arcane mage ? saya ga tau.. atau berserk buff ? ga tau juga kan.. ?
    mau warrior "human" kek ato warrior "***-***" kek ato warrior "tole-tole" kek, kalau RESI 1142 ya tetap 1142.

    TS nya ngepost itu bukan niat cari2 kesalahan GM, dan bukan juga niat buruk sama Mansion. cuma mau membuka mata orang2 tentang ketidak wajaran damage nya aja.

    nah berangkat dari situ, orang2 menyimpulkan hal yang beda2, ada yang bilang mansion punya rahasia, ada yang bilang formulanya salah, dll

    jadi ada bukti atao ga doesnt matter, karena sudah pada tau soal ini. karena ini bukan laporan tentang kriminal, atau pelanggaran yang dilakukan mansion. ini kan cuma share tentang damage yang g wajar. dan yang lain juga merasakan hal yang sama. kalau hal wajar ngapain si TS nge-post sampai bikin thread segala ?? thread ini anggap aja mewakili suara dari ppl yang merasa.

    Quote Originally Posted by dudunkz21 View Post
    kill shoot 1 1 nya skill yang bner2 buat exec dah dmgnya, ga kek exec war, hammer paly
    yoi bro, warlock gua hp 13 k kena kill shot hunter yang hp nya jg 13k, kena 7k++ bro... ada ss nya dilaptop gua, tp klu nanya buff nya ya ga punya ss gua, yang pasti itu gua jamin dia self buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonyetCeria View Post
    Kalo ternyata data nya di wipe sama mamang serpis nya gimana :suram:




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    sorry kepencet reply

    Quote Originally Posted by MonyetCeria View Post
    Kalo ternyata data nya di wipe sama mamang serpis nya gimana :suram:




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    chimera shot tanpa serpent sting:
    125% total damage, physical, kena efek arpen
    jadi, kalo misalnya demeg normal itu hunter MM full relent 2400> outputnya jadi 2800x2.3 (crit+talent) > damage awalnya 5600
    kalo full pve full buff demegny bisa sampe 3600> jadi 4500 x 2.3 > 10350

    coba dihitung brapa demegnya kalo itu hunter make ARPen skitar 60% (atau bahkan 100%> hunter yg gear pvenya terlalu imba)

    kalo ARP 100%, sisa resi deh yang ngurangin demeg, 1140 resi it resisnya crit skitar 25%, kena kurang arpen lagi entah brapa

    jadinya 8k an kan?
    cmiiw deh selebihny
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    Quote Originally Posted by kutuair888 View Post
    chimera shot tanpa serpent sting:
    125% total damage, physical, kena efek arpen
    jadi, kalo misalnya demeg normal itu hunter MM full relent 2400> outputnya jadi 2800x2.3 (crit+talent) > damage awalnya 5600
    kalo full pve full buff demegny bisa sampe 3600> jadi 4500 x 2.3 > 10350

    coba dihitung brapa demegnya kalo itu hunter make ARPen skitar 60% (atau bahkan 100%> hunter yg gear pvenya terlalu imba)

    kalo ARP 100%, sisa resi deh yang ngurangin demeg, 1140 resi it resisnya crit skitar 25%, kena kurang arpen lagi entah brapa

    jadinya 8k an kan?
    cmiiw deh selebihny
    bisa kk jelasin itu angka 3600 x 3 dapet drmana? crit dan talent maksudnya apa aja gitu kok modifier dmgnya serem bgt bisa sampe x3...

    arpen ga nambah dmg kk, arpen itu untuk mengurangi dmg yang ter reduksi oleh armor, bukan menambah dmg, kalo raw dmg nya mnurut kk 10k ya ga kan nambah, yang ada malah turun kena reduksi sana sini (resi, armor, blablabla)

    di SS pertama itu dah jelas" char syamim kena dmg nya nature, jd kita bisa singkirkan pembahasan ttg arpen arpen...

    oya satu lg, resilience itu berfungsi sbagai double modifier,
    1. reduce dmg from player
    2. reduce critical dmg from player

    contoh cara kalkulasi resi:

    incinerate WL saya normal dmg = 6k fire dmg
    critical damage modifier = 150% normal dmg = 100% normal dmg + 50% bonus critical damage

    talent modifier = apa itu namanya di destruction tree, increase your critical strike dmg bonus by 100%, jadi bonus critical dmg nya dikali 2
    50% x 2 = 100%

    output dmg sblum terkena reduksi apapun = 100% normal damage + 100% bonus critical dmg = 12k


    skrg ngitung reduksi resilience, anggep resi saya ngurangi dmg taken from player sebesar 20%
    jadi 1st resi modifier = 80% x 12k = 9600

    modifier kedua, reduce dmg taken from critical dmg anggep 20% juga
    2nd resi modifier = 80% x 9600 = 7680

    bgitulah kira" itungan kasarnya, normal dmg 6k, tp pas crit cm 7.7k

    silahkan komentarnya

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndutzie View Post
    asd adooh salah klik replay quote.. sorry2 ane ga tau gmn cara deletenya ~.~ skalian aja deh nambahin

    Nih RAP nya gw tambah dahh dari buff DK +310AP + 180AP (item alcemy)
    damage
    chimera shot = weapon damage + (RAP*0.24+874)

    = 1003(weapon 277) + (9614*0.24+874)

    = 1003 + 3181 = 4184(No crit)
    Crit*2 = 8368
    Buff BG+meta= 8368*33%= 11129

    Kepotong Resi + defensiv stance = 11129*34.23%=3809

    Kesimpulan TOtal Damage yg gw terima=11129-3809= 7320 (Wajar)
    Ingat itu sudah bnr2 full buff ***** taek bengek segala macam..

    Nah pertanyaan disini=Masa Iya itu si Mansion pake DBW WFS?
    Bereskah DamageNya itu? yg seperti SS saya di awal??

    heheheheeee.. perhitungan saya yg ini sudah bnr2 full buf lho yahh.. mungkin msh ada buff laen yg belom saya sampaikan? silakan diitung..
    formula yg dbold darimana tuh?

    You deal 125% weapon damage, refreshing the current Sting on your target and triggering an effect: Serpent Sting - Instantly deals 40% of the damage done by your Serpent Sting. Viper Sting - Instantly restores mana to you equal to 60% of the total amount drained by your Viper Sting. Scorpid Sting - Attempts to Disarm the target for 10 sec. This effect cannot occur more than once per 1 minute.

    diitung pake ini uda lom ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanvial View Post
    umm numpang lewat

    formula chimera shot di ganti di cata itu
    yg Wrath : Chimera Shot dari openwow, atau http://www.wowwiki.com/Chimera_Shot masih data lama
    ditulis damagenya 125% weapon damage
    ditambah dari talent dan glyph :
    - Mortal Shots increases the critical strike damage bonus by 30%. Marked for Death increases the critical strike damage bonus by a further 10%. Piercing Shots causes the target to bleed for 30% of the critical strike damage.
    - Improved Stings increases the triggered damage with Serpent Sting by 30%.
    - Ranged Weapon Specialization increases the damage done by 5%.
    - Glyph of Serpent Sting adds two ticks to Serpent Sting without reducing the damage done per tick, thus increasing the total damage done by the sting. Since Chimera Shot's triggered effect is based on the damage done by your Serpent Sting, this will increase the damage done by the triggered effect by 40%.

    jadi klo mau itung ulang...
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