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    Quote Originally Posted by krycek View Post
    ey kakak ******, tadi lu bilang

    where the **** is the point about being a dead dps? yes of course dead dps = 0 dps but that's not the fucking point in here since if we assume that the dps will die, you can't see what the difference DPS-WISE (PLEASE FUCKING READ THIS) between the decent guy and the best guy who are dpsing (what i point out in my previous post) and hence, we assume that the dps won't die. if your brain can't at least process that, then better STFU. and by the way, the one i cannot understand is not your writing, but how your stupid brain works
    okay.. since this is a special thread to bash your head. I won't hold back.

    DPS-WISE. WHERE will DPS, or should I say, damage dealt, be important? in a raid.
    HOW, can you deal damage? by NOT dying.
    Decent guy, moderate knowledge, sometimes died when **** happened, best gear? so?
    best guy dps-ing, highly knowledgeable, won't die unless something unexpected happened. decent gear? more than enough.

    contoh:
    ICC, warrior, decent guy, moderate knowledge, equip sanc high, weapon shadowmourne
    ICC, warrior, 'best' guy, highly knowledgeable, knows every nook and cranny, equip 264, weapon shadow edge.

    who deals the highest damage? the second one.
    a good damage dealer, pays attention to small details. boss skill cd, his own attack animation, gcd, his own lag, action delay, response time, to the smallest detail possible. making him able to deal the best dps in every possible situation.
    a fairly decent damage dealer, will only pay attention to gearscore, stick to a set of 'rotation', doesn't exploit the game's little easter eggs. (contoh spt yg gw bilang sblomnya, shammy enhance main weapon 1.8 WF>>> shammy ehance main weapon 2.4 WF(in ampm))

    so a decent hitter will die one or the other time. but a good hitter will not. overall they will dish out more damage. who cares about a 30k dps that died 5 seconds through the fight?

    dealing high dps, recount wise, is easy. just give your all. and die 5 secs through the fight. you'll be on top of the dps list.. but you won't be contributing **** to the raid.



    Quote Originally Posted by krycek View Post
    assume that the stupid-scripted valkyr that i killed was a dummy, and so what? you can't beat that dummy slayers? if only me and my friends were still playing we'd definitely beat you in killing them, why? because we've beat your fucking ass once and hell yeah we definitely could do it again. by the way yeah you're right i picked the wrong guy to piss off, since he's a stupid coward that cannot take responsible for what he said and he even brought his stupid friend to help him
    and by the fucking way how the hell you can tell that the ToGC you cleared is fully scripted? did you hear it from the devs or the GMs? **** that i say, **** that. do you even experienced it on real server? i highly doubted that
    PS: My fucking guild master (and raid leader) doesn't like what you said about FULLY SCRIPTED
    because only n00b kills a dummy and boast of it *brb lol

    nuh-uh, your argument is invalid. no IF here. we got the Grand Crusader title. you don't. end of the line (+aethas intensity, liandrin, and alllll the other 50 chance tribute chest loot)

    Fully scripted yes. perfect scripted no. script's bugging so that latency rose up on jaraxx(when I beat it), volcano spawns randomly (when I beat it), certain skills can't be used on faction, (when I beat it). which makes the fight considerably harder than the retail version.

    and btw who do you think you are that I should pay attention of what your guild master like or doesn't like?

    Quote Originally Posted by krycek View Post
    btw i'm not buying your logic because you are clearly ********, what am i saying is i have tried heroic lich king WITHOUT the fucking buff, but it didn't have to be at ampm rite?
    yeah right. a ******** person calling other people ********. very funny indeed.

    please do tell me who will believe somebody who boasted on killing dummies?


    Quote Originally Posted by krycek View Post
    ya iyes staying alive is the most important thing in raiding, you can even fucking use your raid cooldown for you selfish use to stay alive, but since you seem so ********, let me tell you again that the fucking context i am talking about is the ability to PULL DPS in a "tank and spank" encounter, for instance the patchwerk fight. if you ever visit (i highly doubt you even know) noxxic or simulationcraft or w/e, you will know what i am refering to, since your ******** friend said that it's not easy to increase your dps from 3k to 15k
    tank and spank? who cares about tank and spank? how many fight is actually tank and spank? you got 15k dps in a tank and spank fight but you only got 6-7k dps on highly-mobile fight? nuh-uh you're not even decent

    Quote Originally Posted by krycek View Post
    actually you think i didn't know about your normal 25-man lich king kill was using a bug? should i say how the exact way you killed LK? ROFL
    oh yes please by all means say it.. it's fun to see how ignorant people go yappin around thinking he's all smart
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    you can kill anub h, or lk h i dnt care. but here's the puchline. I can beat you in duel, arena, or bg, anytime, anywhere.
    so please, like i said before. stop writing, you lowering the IQ of the whole forum.

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    nimbrung ah
    Spoiler untuk Raid guide for dummy :

    mungkin gambar di atas cukup menjelaskan kenapa ga cuma tank and spank di raid
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahonokotoba View Post
    okay.. since this is a special thread to bash your head. I won't hold back.

    DPS-WISE. WHERE will DPS, or should I say, damage dealt, be important? in a raid.
    HOW, can you deal damage? by NOT dying.
    Decent guy, moderate knowledge, sometimes died when **** happened, best gear? so?
    best guy dps-ing, highly knowledgeable, won't die unless something unexpected happened. decent gear? more than enough.

    contoh:
    ICC, warrior, decent guy, moderate knowledge, equip sanc high, weapon shadowmourne
    ICC, warrior, 'best' guy, highly knowledgeable, knows every nook and cranny, equip 264, weapon shadow edge.

    who deals the highest damage? the second one.
    a good damage dealer, pays attention to small details. boss skill cd, his own attack animation, gcd, his own lag, action delay, response time, to the smallest detail possible. making him able to deal the best dps in every possible situation.
    a fairly decent damage dealer, will only pay attention to gearscore, stick to a set of 'rotation', doesn't exploit the game's little easter eggs. (contoh spt yg gw bilang sblomnya, shammy enhance main weapon 1.8 WF>>> shammy ehance main weapon 2.4 WF(in ampm))

    so a decent hitter will die one or the other time. but a good hitter will not. overall they will dish out more damage. who cares about a 30k dps that died 5 seconds through the fight?

    dealing high dps, recount wise, is easy. just give your all. and die 5 secs through the fight. you'll be on top of the dps list.. but you won't be contributing **** to the raid.
    ok yes you are fucking ******** indeed, where will damage dealt be important you say? are you fucking ********? without high output of damage done fight will be longer, tougher, and more chance that the healer will ran out of mana, or the boss enrages, which in this case (at ampm), a lot of boss doesn't have enrage timer well whatever this was not the case here. since you are super ********. let me ask you one more time
    Quote Originally Posted by mahonokotoba
    contoh gampang. naekin dps dari 3k ke 15k+ ga segampang dapetin equip gan. biar equip lu udah dewa, ga bisa serta merta dps lu langsung jadi 15k. gw udah sering liat orang wtb char dewa dps ampas. sering juga liat orang equip cukupan dps imba
    if your brain is not ******** enough, that statement of yours means pulling up dps from 3k to 15k is not easy, and i said it's easy just read your class guides for 10 minutes and you're done. and then you said that dead dps = 0 dps, **** it do you even read my post? or is it my writing for hard for your stupid brain to understand? let me copy paste it one more time, if you still don't understand, ask your other noob friend about it
    Quote Originally Posted by krycek
    where the **** is the point about being a dead dps? yes of course dead dps = 0 dps but that's not the fucking point in here since if we assume that the dps will die, you can't see what the difference DPS-WISE (PLEASE FUCKING READ THIS) between the decent guy and the best guy who are dpsing (what i point out in my previous post) and hence, we assume that the dps won't die. if your brain can't at least process that, then better STFU. and by the way, the one i cannot understand is not your writing, but how your stupid brain works
    if you don't understand what am i saying, what am i saying is that IF you ASSUME that the dps won't die, it's easy to learn how to pull over 15k dps, and i understand what am i missing though, i thought what you were referring was about like what was written here: http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings
    since of course they are assuming that the dps wont die aren't them? if yes they can write numbers like 200k and type additional info like: "the dps died 10 secs after the pull "
    sorry, my bad, i don't know you were that ********

    and yes if you really did read my post i NEVER EVER EVER EVER said that you are allowed to die, if you die, then you fails or the healer fails.. well but 90% most of the time the one at fault was you.. and of course everyone would prefer the one that died less often. but let me tell you one more time
    Quote Originally Posted by buzzkill
    Since character progression is influenced by gear and gear alone, and the quality of your raiding team is a function of all your raiding members' gear and their ability, free time and all the jazz that a raider needs to be useful. But gear comes first, the best player in the world with ****** gear will not be as useful as a godly geared scrub
    source: http://manaflask.com/en/article/1873...t-distribution

    and what? you say "a fairly decent damage dealer, will only pay attention to gearscore, stick to a set of 'rotation', doesn't exploit the game's little easter eggs"??
    of course not, you douche, a fair DPS would at least know what to do on an encounter, but most of the time they are tunnel visioning the boss and doesn't give **** about the environment.. well at least you won't die super fast 24/7

    get it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mahonokotoba View Post
    because only n00b kills a dummy and boast of it *brb lol

    nuh-uh, your argument is invalid. no IF here. we got the Grand Crusader title. you don't. end of the line (+aethas intensity, liandrin, and alllll the other 50 chance tribute chest loot)

    Fully scripted yes. perfect scripted no. script's bugging so that latency rose up on jaraxx(when I beat it), volcano spawns randomly (when I beat it), certain skills can't be used on faction, (when I beat it). which makes the fight considerably harder than the retail version.

    and btw who do you think you are that I should pay attention of what your guild master like or doesn't like?
    and so everything you point out(fully=/= perfectly or whatever) only makes the boss harder and said that the fight was harder than retail? do you even know how was the encounter in retail? do you even know the anub healing mechanic that was like 100% bugged in ampm ? how the **** you can say that the one you killed was harder than retail? or even if it was harder than what we kill 2 years ago? do you even know the valkyr when it first came out to ampm like? does it look like a training dummy? could you KILL it? or are you using some sort of bug like what you do at 25man lich king? you even lost to the other guild that doesn't use the bug to kill him.. so what should we call you? some loser bugger noob that can do nothing but complaining? lol you should stop posting like the person above me said, you are fucking lowering the iq of the whole forum with your ******** statements and all

    and yeah doesn't matter anyway since the gm reset the achievement when the "fully scripted" instance was out.. and does it sounds funny when the one that killed it 2 years later were the one that get the realm first?

    Quote Originally Posted by mahonokotoba View Post
    yeah right. a ******** person calling other people ********. very funny indeed.

    please do tell me who will believe somebody who boasted on killing dummies?
    okay let's just say again that the bosses i killed all were dummies (although you can't even kill this dummy lol), what do you want? heroic deathwing screenshot? WoL link? all of it was legit, not like your fail 25man lich king




    Quote Originally Posted by mahonokotoba View Post
    tank and spank? who cares about tank and spank? how many fight is actually tank and spank? you got 15k dps in a tank and spank fight but you only got 6-7k dps on highly-mobile fight? nuh-uh you're not even decent
    see noxxic again and you will see the "Actual DPS" table.. hell what's wrong with this country, there are people that are ******** beyond help. i never said decent dps that could pull over 15k++ damage will only do half of it on a highly-mobile fight you douchebag.


    Quote Originally Posted by mahonokotoba View Post
    oh yes please by all means say it.. it's fun to see how ignorant people go yappin around thinking he's all smart
    oh well... at least he is more than you :\



    oh yeah my friend tell me that heroic sindragosa in ampm is fucking easy, while in retail sindragosa heroic is the most difficult boss after heroic lich king.. so conclusion? is it fucking fully scripted? *****?
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    so what are you two trying to prove? yang 1 bener 1 salah? yang nonton debat cuma mo liat ributnya kayanya, nggak ada yang perduli siapa salah siapa bener, ribut sampe sejauh ini aja udah lucu banget gue ngeliatnya MUAHAHAHAHAHHA EVIL LAUGH
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    Quote Originally Posted by enumaelish View Post
    so what are you two trying to prove? yang 1 bener 1 salah? yang nonton debat cuma mo liat ributnya kayanya, nggak ada yang perduli siapa salah siapa bener, ribut sampe sejauh ini aja udah lucu banget gue ngeliatnya MUAHAHAHAHAHHA EVIL LAUGH
    So far this is best post i've seen in this thread.

    Be right back i need more popcorn and soda.

    And, do please continue.
    Don't mind us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enumaelish View Post
    so what are you two trying to prove? yang 1 bener 1 salah? yang nonton debat cuma mo liat ributnya kayanya, nggak ada yang perduli siapa salah siapa bener, ribut sampe sejauh ini aja udah lucu banget gue ngeliatnya MUAHAHAHAHAHHA EVIL LAUGH
    ya iyes lah? ya mungkin lu gak peduli tapi gua peduli then that's enough for a reason, yaudah kalo lu merasa lucu sih silahkan aja ketawa2 not like i care, basicly sih gua pengen bikin dia sadar kalo dia ***** (which is gua gak pengen nyebut ini sampe dia mancing2 terus).. btw beda id beda personality yeh, hampir salah nilai gua


    Quote Originally Posted by Exile_Vindicator View Post
    So far this is best post i've seen in this thread.

    Be right back i need more popcorn and soda.

    And, do please continue.
    Don't mind us.
    sure thing douche
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    Quote Originally Posted by krycek View Post
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    Knp jadi alay gini

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    Progress rotolatoz dah gmn skrg?
    Dlu sempet ktmu ex-tanker nya rotolatoz, tp skrg dah ga terlalu ngikutin.

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