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    Quote Originally Posted by zaburo View Post
    benernya mnurut gw, bgsnya indonesia mendukung iran lewat jalur blakang aja, dipikir program nuklir iran yg sekarang dipermasalahkan tidak diketahui bentuknya kan, pihak amerika mengklaim sebagai *** nuklir, tapi teheran mengklaim bahwa program nuklirnya untuk energi, so..kalo menurut gw itu hak iran secara absolut, mau dia ngembangin *** kek, pembangkit energi kek, itu urusan dalam negri yg ga bsa dicampurtangani pihak asing terkecuali yang ada hubungannya dengan pihak itu, misalpun ingin diawasi kemajuannya, ya kirim aja wakil dari PBB untuk mengawasi, dan wakilnya itu harus bener-bener netral biar ga bikin laporan palsu, itupun harus dengan persetujuan iran dahulu, simpel kan, kalo tujuan programnya positif, iran akan dengan senang hati diawasi, kecuali iran menolak, itu patut dicurigai, lagian apa urusan amerika juga kan, emang mereka ga punya program kaya gitu, pasti adalah, tp gk bocor, wajar kan setiap negara sekarang mempunyai program pertahanan militer masing-masing, melihat kondisi dunia yang udah sembrawut, peran PBB makin ga berarti jika kita tinjau kasus israel yang dengan seenaknya mencaplok negara-negara disekitarnya, amerika sendiri maen serang irak+afganistan tanpa omong-omong dulu, padahal yang mereka jadikan alasan untuk melakukan serangan tersebut gk pernah terbukti, malah berdalih alasan lain setelah nyerang, mana ada orang nonjok orang dulu, baru nanyain "mas ini teh ada masalah apa" setelah yg ditonjokin babak belur, pokonya hidup IRAN...
    hehe, memang bener sih, yah apa mo dikata, namanya juga negara adidaya, yg penting dukung iran

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    Europeans Refuse to Back US Strike on Iran

    TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- A poll conducted in five European countries and the US found inconsiderable support for the use of military strikes against Iran to halt its nuclear program.

    The Harris Interactive Survey said using force against Iran is backed by just 8 percent in France, 7 percent in Germany, 8 percent in Italy, 8 percent in Spain, 11 percent in the UK and 21 percent in the US.

    Diplomatic efforts aimed at resolving Iran's nuclear case were supported by 50 percent in France, 51 percent in Germany, 52 percent in Italy, 53 percent in Spain, 44 percent in the UK and 36 percent in the US, the poll showed.

    The US and some of its western allies claim Iran's program is aimed at developing nuclear weapons, but they don't have any corroborative document to prove their allegations. Iran says it wants the technology to generate electricity. The US has refused to rule out a military response.

    A majority in all six countries surveyed backed a withdrawal of US and other coalition troops from Iraq. Ninety percent of French nationals support an Iraq pullout, as do 75 percent of Germans, 82 percent of Italians, 84 percent of Spaniards, 82 percent of UK nationals and 67 percent of Americans.

    The poll was conducted for France 24 television and the Paris-based International Herald Tribune newspaper Oct. 3-15. It surveyed 6,645 people aged 16 to 64 in France, Germany, Spain, the UK and the US and aged 18 to 64 in Italy. Harris did not specify margins of error.

    http://www.farsnews.com/English/news...?nn=8608180279

    Ketergantungan Uni Eropa terhadap gas alam yang dihasilkan Iran sangatlah tinggi...

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    Ini semua tidak terlepas dari ucapan " yang menguasai sumber daya alam berupa "Energi" 5 atau 10 tahun yang akan datang , dia ( dalam hal ini negara ) merupakan penguasa dunia.
    karena kterbatasan sumber daya tsb.
    nuclear, nonsense>.< hanya propaganda yang dimunculkan untuk membenarkan perbuatan yang tidak senonoh / bner.
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    Rusia katanya gk setuju dgn AS n sekutu ya???
    wah2..
    bisa2 perang dingin lagi nih

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    yang pasti

    Proyek Pengayaan NUklir untuk kepentingan Kehidupan adalah sah dan hak segala bangsa.

    Pengayaan Peralatan Perang JUga merupakan Hak Dan suatu keharusan Negara BErdaulat untuk Mempertahankan negaranya

    Kalau IKe bilang Usa itu CUma Pengen NGuasai Produsen mINyak DI timur tengah.

    arab Dia dapet, Irak Udah jatuh< tinggal iran bukan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bh_diansastro View Post
    yang pasti

    Proyek Pengayaan NUklir untuk kepentingan Kehidupan adalah sah dan hak segala bangsa.

    Pengayaan Peralatan Perang JUga merupakan Hak Dan suatu keharusan Negara BErdaulat untuk Mempertahankan negaranya

    Kalau IKe bilang Usa itu CUma Pengen NGuasai Produsen mINyak DI timur tengah.

    arab Dia dapet, Irak Udah jatuh< tinggal iran bukan?
    masih ada suriah, tapi suriah juga udah mule dituding punya nuklir, abis iran juga suriah kok, and selanjutnya paling ASIA TENGGARA

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcanthaZ View Post
    Rusia katanya gk setuju dgn AS n sekutu ya???
    wah2..
    bisa2 perang dingin lagi nih
    Rusia Itu PEnerus dari Uni soViet Jadiw ajar wajar aja Kalo Terusin Perang dingin.

    tanpa itu Teknologi ga akan berkembang pesat>

    Ex= teknologi angkasa luar Berkembang cepat coz ada Persaingan antara keduanya to?

    dan lagi menurut gw Pemegang hak veto cuma 5 itu gak adil.

    masa 3 negara haluan liberal vs 2 negara haluan komunis
    ga imbang kan

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    Quote Originally Posted by bh_diansastro View Post
    Rusia Itu PEnerus dari Uni soViet Jadiw ajar wajar aja Kalo Terusin Perang dingin.

    tanpa itu Teknologi ga akan berkembang pesat>

    Ex= teknologi angkasa luar Berkembang cepat coz ada Persaingan antara keduanya to?

    dan lagi menurut gw Pemegang hak veto cuma 5 itu gak adil.

    masa 3 negara haluan liberal vs 2 negara haluan komunis
    ga imbang kan
    kalo liberal semua iran udah mati tekor sekarangg, kosovo pun pasti ud merdeka

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimihitam. View Post
    masih ada suriah, tapi suriah juga udah mule dituding punya nuklir, abis iran juga suriah kok, and selanjutnya paling ASIA TENGGARA
    suriah mah ga gitu di pandang sama USA.

    Cm negara kecil Yang gampang di tekan secara ekonomi n politik

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    Quote Originally Posted by bh_diansastro View Post
    suriah mah ga gitu di pandang sama USA.

    Cm negara kecil Yang gampang di tekan secara ekonomi n politik
    memang kecil, tapi punya minyak juga

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria

    But early discoveries of oil in the region of Mosul just before to end of the war led to yet another negotiation with France in 1918 to cede this region to 'Zone B', or the British zone of influence. The borders between the 'Zone A' and 'Zone B' have not change from 1918 to this date. In 1920, the two sides have been recognized internationally under mandate of the League of Nations by the two dominant countries; France and the United Kingdom.
    The climate in Syria is dry and hot, and winters are mild. Because of the country's elevation, snowfall does occasionally occur during winter. Petroleum in commercial quantities was first discovered in the northeast in 1956. The most important oil fields are those of Suwaydiyah, Qaratshui, Rumayian, and Tayyem, near Dayr az–Zawr. The fields are a natural extension of the Iraqi fields of Mosul and Kirkuk. Petroleum became Syria's leading natural resource and chief export after 1974. Natural gas was discovered at the field of Jbessa in 1940.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimihitam. View Post
    memang kecil, tapi punya minyak juga

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
    makanya Itu As ga gitu Getol Bacok Suriah

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    Quote Originally Posted by bh_diansastro View Post
    makanya Itu As ga gitu Getol Bacok Suriah
    yah memang, karena iran itu pasokan minyak dunia

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    tapi thn 2050an ke atas cadangan minyak sdh tipis....
    jd mkn cm bentar timur tengah nguasai minyak...

    INDONESIA juga mampu jadi kaya kek negara laen, tapi masa bukan Pertamina yg nguasai Minyak NEgara kita?

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    US talks tough over Iran, warns China

    A cameraman films inside the Isfahan Uranium Conversion Facilities, 420 kms south of Tehran, February 2007. The United States accused Iran Thursday of "stringing along" UN watchdogs investigating its nuclear ambitions and bluntly warned China not to block new sanctions against the Islamic republic.

    The United States accused Iran Thursday of "stringing along" UN watchdogs investigating its nuclear ambitions and bluntly warned China not to block new sanctions against the Islamic republic.

    US officials talked tough after the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said Iran had made "substantial progress" but still needed to be more pro-active in shedding light on its atomic program.

    One official close to the IAEA said the assessment showed that "the glass is half full" with regard to the Iranian case. But White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Tehran was guilty of "selective cooperation."

    "This report sadly makes clear that Iran seems uninterested in working with the rest of the world," she said.

    "The United States will work with our partners on the UN Security Council and Germany as we move towards a third set of Security Council sanctions," Perino said.

    At the United Nations, US envoy Zalmay Khalilzad accused China of stalling on sanctions designed to punish Iran's refusal to halt uranium enrichment.

    Enriched uranium can be used to generate nuclear power, but also in a highly refined form, to make nuclear weapons.

    "I don't think China would want to be in a position to cause a failure of diplomacy to deal with this issue," Khalilzad told reporters.

    The United States has never ruled out military action if Iran persists with its atomic drive, and has stepped up its rhetoric of late to warn of "World War III" if Tehran gains the know-how to make nuclear weapons.

    A senior UN official confirmed a claim by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Iran had reached a key target of 3,000 centrifuges enriching uranium.

    Scientists say that number could be sufficient to produce enough enriched uranium in one year to make a single nuclear bomb.

    But Washington has been frustrated at the UN Security Council by the reluctance of China in particular to intensify two earlier rounds of global sanctions against the Iranian regime.

    "It's in everyone's interest for this world-defining issue to be resolved diplomatically," Khalilzad said.

    The IAEA, whose chief Mohamed ElBaradei has strongly criticized the US approach to Iran, said the country had given "sufficient access" to its inspectors and had responded "in a timely manner" to questions.

    "However, its cooperation has been reactive rather than pro-active," the report added, stressing that Iran's "active cooperation and full transparency" were needed to assuage international concerns.

    At the White House, Perino zeroed in on what she described as the report's finding that "contrary to the decisions of the Security Council, Iran has not suspended its enrichment-related activities."

    "We believe that Iran should be fully cooperating, and not stringing along the IAEA during this process," she said.

    "It just pushes Iran further into isolation and we believe that what they should do is take us up on our offer."

    The United States, Britain, France, and Germany have offered a package of political and economic incentives, including cooperation on civil nuclear energy, if Iran freezes enrichment.

    Washington and its allies are also awaiting a report from European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana on his own contacts with Iran.

    A release date for Solana's report is expected in "a matter of days," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, who called the IAEA evaluation "troubling."

    But new Iranian chief nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili said the report by the UN agency showed that Western claims that the atomic program has military aims "are not true."

    Jalili added: "Whether the report is negative or positive, the Americans always say the same thing."

    sumber : http://news.id.msn.com/topstories/ar...mentid=1101478

    wehh bakal perang dunia ke3 neh gara-gara saling tuduh-menuduh. USA vs China = World War III

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    hampir lengkap nih skenarionya. Tinggal 1 negara lagi yang dimusuhin/ditekan/dituduh, yaitu JEPANG, WW terjadi (mungkin!!!).
    Kalo menurut gue, AS tuh takut banget ama nuklirnya Iran. N kayaknya dia takut banget ama everything (terutama takut kalo adikuasanya hilang). Padahal, dengan dia melakukan hal ini terus, bukannya negara2 lain bakal mendukung AS malah bakal ngelawan AS. Padahal adikuasa tuh gak ada apa-apanya tanpa dukungan negara lain.
    Mainkan Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN hari ini!

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