Misteri Kematian Hitler

[NoMe]

ya bisa aja sie
artinya kita harus tetep waspada sekarang......

btw itu anggota2 nazi di jerman dah bersih semua ya??
atau ada yang selamat ???

[Kaixa]

ya bisa aja sie
artinya kita harus tetep waspada sekarang......

btw itu anggota2 nazi di jerman dah bersih semua ya??
atau ada yang selamat ???

sayangnya ga tuh. krn ada gerakan underground Neo-Nazi yg berupaya menghidupkan Nazi model Hitler n parahnya, para anggotanya ada yg merupakan keturunan anggota Nazi jaman Hitler n cukup berkembang. bahkan sampe daratan amerika sana bahkan sampe ke seluruh dunia.

[Dr.Error]

nah itu jg yg gw bingung....

apa mungkin pake Kapal Laut? Kapal Selam?.....

ship/submarine or plane. but most of the eks nazi's using submarine(kriegsmarine).
it's called neo-nazi when people really pro-nazi
A paid FBI informant was the man behind a neo-Nazi march through the streets of Parramore that stirred up anxiety in Orlando's black community and fears of racial unrest that triggered a major police mobilization.

That revelation came Wednesday in an unrelated federal court hearing and has prompted outrage from black leaders, some of whom demanded an investigation into whether the February 2006 march was, itself, an event staged by law-enforcement agencies.

The FBI would not comment on what it knew about the involvement of its informant, 39-year-old David Gletty of Orlando, in the neo-Nazi event. In court Wednesday, an FBI agent said the bureau has paid its informant at least $20,000 during the past two years.

"Wow," Gletty said when reached by phone late Wednesday. "It is what it is. You were there in court. I can't really go into any detail now."

Orlando City Councilwoman Daisy Lynum, whose district includes the march route west of Interstate 4, said she wants to know who was behind the march, the neo-Nazis or the FBI and other law-enforcement agencies.

"If it was staged, I would feel very uncomfortable and would ask for a full-scale investigation," Lynum said. "To come into a predominantly black community which could have resulted in great harm to the black community? I would hate to be part of a game. It's a mockery to the community for someone else to be playing a game with the community."

Others applauded the FBI's infiltration of the neo-Nazis.

"It's one of the largest extremist groups in the country, and Gletty was one of the most visible individuals in the National Socialist Movement," said Andy Rosenkranz, state regional director for the Anti-Defamation League. "Generally, the FBI and the JTTF (Joint Terrorism Task Force) in Florida does an excellent job."

Rally puts city in spotlight

Orlando drew national attention when the city granted a permit to Gletty so a minimum of 100 white supremacists and National Socialist Movement members could march Feb. 25 through the historically black Parramore neighborhood.


From the National Socialist Website Overthrow.com: NSM Members Listen to (now known FBI informant) David Gletty before a rally.

Wearing swastikas and holding signs declaring "White Pride," the 22 neo-Nazis who turned out were protected from 500 counterprotesters by about 300 police officers.

Gletty's secret life became public Wednesday in a federal court hearing resulting from the arrest last week of two suspected white supremacists on charges of conspiracy to distribute ***** cocaine.

Last Thursday, the FBI arrested Tom Martin, 23, and John Rock, 35, after Gletty wore a wire to a meeting and agreed to help them rob a drug dealer in Casselberry, according to testimony.

Rock told Gletty in a tape-recorded conversation that he and Martin had robbed seven drug dealers by posing as law-enforcement officers, according to testimony. Martin and Rock remain held without bail in the Seminole County Jail.

Slip-up lets name out of bag

Throughout most of the hearing, Gletty was referred to as "Mr. X" or "CW" (cooperating witness). His identity was revealed when Assistant Federal Public Defender Peter W. Kenny repeatedly slipped up and mentioned Gletty's full name.

FBI agent Kevin Farrington and a federal prosecutor were clearly uncomfortable with the disclosure of the informant's name in open court.

Questioned about Gletty's role in the march, Farrington testified that "he participated in it. He did not organize it. . . . [That's] pretty good firsthand information, sir."

The city parade permit, however, lists Gletty as the "on scene event manager."

And pictures of Gletty addressing marchers sporting swastika armbands for the Orlando rally appear on a neo-Nazi Web site. Captions from other photos on the site mock the counterdemonstrators and the police presence.

On another Web site, Gletty details his role in organizing the Orlando event and hosting a victory party afterward.

"On 1/17/06 I got the permits and started the ball rolling," he writes. "On 2/25/06 at 3 pm on saturday [sic] in downtown Orlando My crew and I got it done."

In another part of the posting, he writes: "Since I was the permit holder I was the person to deal with the police and had over-all authority of the event."

No word from FBI

FBI officials did not return calls asking for specifics about the agency's relationship with Gletty. A tree-trimmer in Orlando, he withdrew from the National Socialist Movement last fall to pursue other projects, Farrington testified.

Orlando police Deputy Chief Pete Gauntlett, who supervised the march preparations, would not say what the FBI told police about Gletty and other marchers.

"We let them express their free speech and let them do what they're allowed to do, but we wanted to have control," Gauntlett said.

Bill White, a former spokesman for the National Socialist Movement who participated in the rally and now runs another neo-Nazi group, said he was surprised to hear of Gletty's involvement with the FBI. He said Gletty did a lot for the cause.

A neo-Nazi offers his take

"If he was being sponsored by the FBI, then American National Socialism has a lot to thank the FBI for," White said in an e-mail.

Lynum said that if the FBI was behind the march, she would like the agency to reimburse the city for the tens of thousands it spent to send officers -- including SWAT-team and mounted-unit members -- to police the march.

Adora Obi Nweze, president of the State Conference NAACP in Miami, said she was disturbed an informant set up the march and was working for the FBI.

"That's very troubling that somebody like that would be an informant for the FBI," she said. "You never know what they are capable of. No question, it bothers me."

But Alzo Reddick, a former state legislator who grew up in segregated Orlando, lived through KKK marches and later taught black history, said he was proud of the way the police and the community responded. He was a member of the "Be Cool" movement organized to calm the community before the march.

"I think law enforcement has to walk in some murky places to be where the bad guys are," Reddick said. "Was the FBI informant an activist or a participant? Was he the agent provocateur from the get-go? Sure, that would be part of what I'd like to know."

Rene Stutzman, Jim Leusner and Willoughby Mariano of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Henry Pierson Curtis can be reached at [email protected] or 407-420-5257.

[Dr.Error]

BERLIN (KONTEKAJA) - Pawai neo-Nazi berubah jadi kerusuhan di kota Dresden, Jerman timur, Sabtu, saat dua kelompok pengunjuk rasa bentrok dengan polisi.


Beberapa ratus pemrotes anti-Nazi berusaha menghalangi demo kelompok kanan-jauh, sehingga mengakibatkan bentrokan dengan pasukan keamanan.

Banyak kendaraan yang diparkir rusak dan polisi dilempari dengan botol oleh pengunjuk rasa tandingan. Belum ada laporan mengenai korban cedera atau ditangkap.

Sebanyak 5.000 pendukung neo-Nazi turun ke jalan guna memperingati pemboman Dresden 1945 oleh pauskan sekutu.

Sementara itu 7.500 orang berpawai menentang pawai neo-Nazi itu di Dresden.

Jerman telah berulang-kali menjadi tempat bentrokan antara pendukun sayap kanan-jauh dan demonstran tandingan.

Jumlah pendukung neo-Nazi Jerman terus bertambah selama satu tahun terakhir, demikian data statistik resmi.

Sebanyak 4.400 pendukung neo-Nazo berasal dari wilayah garis keras kanan-jauh Jerman.

Kelompok neo-Nazi juga telah berbaur dengan masyarakat arus utama Jerman dan bergabung dengan klub olah raga lokal serta klub sosial dan menjadi relawan bagi kelompok masyarakat, tempat mereka menarik remaja tanpa pekerjaan dan orang yang sudah lama menganggur.

Sebanyak 2.000 pengikut neo-Nazi juga berpawai di seluruh Eropa dan menyeru benua itu agar melindungi diri sendiri dari pengaruh asing.

Beberapa kelompok setiap tahun memperingati apa yang mereka sebut "Hari Kehormatan", saat tentara Jerman dan Hongaria berusaha menerobos ibukota Hongari, yang dikepung oleh tentara Uni Sovyet pada 1945. Peristiwa tersebut biasanya menarik beberapa ratus orang.

"Penduduk yang berusia lanjut dan kehilangan tradisi mereka telah terkikis di sini," kata Janos Endre Domokos, yang memimpin kelompok Pax Hungarica, salah satu penyelenggara pawai di Budapes.

Kelompok sayap kanan-jauh telah mendapat dukungan di Hongaria sejak krisis global melanda. Lebih dari 1.000 pendukung partai Jobbik memprotes pada Jumat, guna menentang apa yang mereka katakan sebagai kebangkitan kejahatan yang dilakukan oleh Romas, masyarakat terbesar di Hongaria.

Pada Sabtu, polisi menyatakan mereka menahan lima orang. Empat orang ditahan karena mereka membawa perlengkapan yang dapat digunakan sebagai senjata.ant/irna/rtr

[luna_croz]

Gni aja kal hitler lari ke indo. Gmana cranya dia kbur dr bunker yg sudah dkepung? Bhkan bisa lari2 ke kota2 laen tanpa ada yg kenal dia? Padahal wajahnya adalah momok di dunia eropa. Dan gmana cranya dia bikin paspor? Aneh bin ajaib. Bhkan anak buahny ud pada ngebangkang ama hitler smua dan krja sama ama inggris. So gmana crny ya dy bs dpet paspor n terbng ke indo dngn slamet?

[Kaixa]

ship/submarine or plane. but most of the eks nazi's using submarine(kriegsmarine).
it's called neo-nazi when people really pro-nazi
A paid FBI informant was the man behind a neo-Nazi march through the streets of Parramore that stirred up anxiety in Orlando's black community and fears of racial unrest that triggered a major police mobilization.

That revelation came Wednesday in an unrelated federal court hearing and has prompted outrage from black leaders, some of whom demanded an investigation into whether the February 2006 march was, itself, an event staged by law-enforcement agencies.

The FBI would not comment on what it knew about the involvement of its informant, 39-year-old David Gletty of Orlando, in the neo-Nazi event. In court Wednesday, an FBI agent said the bureau has paid its informant at least $20,000 during the past two years.

"Wow," Gletty said when reached by phone late Wednesday. "It is what it is. You were there in court. I can't really go into any detail now."

Orlando City Councilwoman Daisy Lynum, whose district includes the march route west of Interstate 4, said she wants to know who was behind the march, the neo-Nazis or the FBI and other law-enforcement agencies.

"If it was staged, I would feel very uncomfortable and would ask for a full-scale investigation," Lynum said. "To come into a predominantly black community which could have resulted in great harm to the black community? I would hate to be part of a game. It's a mockery to the community for someone else to be playing a game with the community."

Others applauded the FBI's infiltration of the neo-Nazis.

"It's one of the largest extremist groups in the country, and Gletty was one of the most visible individuals in the National Socialist Movement," said Andy Rosenkranz, state regional director for the Anti-Defamation League. "Generally, the FBI and the JTTF (Joint Terrorism Task Force) in Florida does an excellent job."

Rally puts city in spotlight

Orlando drew national attention when the city granted a permit to Gletty so a minimum of 100 white supremacists and National Socialist Movement members could march Feb. 25 through the historically black Parramore neighborhood.


From the National Socialist Website Overthrow.com: NSM Members Listen to (now known FBI informant) David Gletty before a rally.

Wearing swastikas and holding signs declaring "White Pride," the 22 neo-Nazis who turned out were protected from 500 counterprotesters by about 300 police officers.

Gletty's secret life became public Wednesday in a federal court hearing resulting from the arrest last week of two suspected white supremacists on charges of conspiracy to distribute ***** cocaine.

Last Thursday, the FBI arrested Tom Martin, 23, and John Rock, 35, after Gletty wore a wire to a meeting and agreed to help them rob a drug dealer in Casselberry, according to testimony.

Rock told Gletty in a tape-recorded conversation that he and Martin had robbed seven drug dealers by posing as law-enforcement officers, according to testimony. Martin and Rock remain held without bail in the Seminole County Jail.

Slip-up lets name out of bag

Throughout most of the hearing, Gletty was referred to as "Mr. X" or "CW" (cooperating witness). His identity was revealed when Assistant Federal Public Defender Peter W. Kenny repeatedly slipped up and mentioned Gletty's full name.

FBI agent Kevin Farrington and a federal prosecutor were clearly uncomfortable with the disclosure of the informant's name in open court.

Questioned about Gletty's role in the march, Farrington testified that "he participated in it. He did not organize it. . . . [That's] pretty good firsthand information, sir."

The city parade permit, however, lists Gletty as the "on scene event manager."

And pictures of Gletty addressing marchers sporting swastika armbands for the Orlando rally appear on a neo-Nazi Web site. Captions from other photos on the site mock the counterdemonstrators and the police presence.

On another Web site, Gletty details his role in organizing the Orlando event and hosting a victory party afterward.

"On 1/17/06 I got the permits and started the ball rolling," he writes. "On 2/25/06 at 3 pm on saturday [sic] in downtown Orlando My crew and I got it done."

In another part of the posting, he writes: "Since I was the permit holder I was the person to deal with the police and had over-all authority of the event."

No word from FBI

FBI officials did not return calls asking for specifics about the agency's relationship with Gletty. A tree-trimmer in Orlando, he withdrew from the National Socialist Movement last fall to pursue other projects, Farrington testified.

Orlando police Deputy Chief Pete Gauntlett, who supervised the march preparations, would not say what the FBI told police about Gletty and other marchers.

"We let them express their free speech and let them do what they're allowed to do, but we wanted to have control," Gauntlett said.

Bill White, a former spokesman for the National Socialist Movement who participated in the rally and now runs another neo-Nazi group, said he was surprised to hear of Gletty's involvement with the FBI. He said Gletty did a lot for the cause.

A neo-Nazi offers his take

"If he was being sponsored by the FBI, then American National Socialism has a lot to thank the FBI for," White said in an e-mail.

Lynum said that if the FBI was behind the march, she would like the agency to reimburse the city for the tens of thousands it spent to send officers -- including SWAT-team and mounted-unit members -- to police the march.

Adora Obi Nweze, president of the State Conference NAACP in Miami, said she was disturbed an informant set up the march and was working for the FBI.

"That's very troubling that somebody like that would be an informant for the FBI," she said. "You never know what they are capable of. No question, it bothers me."

But Alzo Reddick, a former state legislator who grew up in segregated Orlando, lived through KKK marches and later taught black history, said he was proud of the way the police and the community responded. He was a member of the "Be Cool" movement organized to calm the community before the march.

"I think law enforcement has to walk in some murky places to be where the bad guys are," Reddick said. "Was the FBI informant an activist or a participant? Was he the agent provocateur from the get-go? Sure, that would be part of what I'd like to know."

Rene Stutzman, Jim Leusner and Willoughby Mariano of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Henry Pierson Curtis can be reached at [email protected] or 407-420-5257.

terjemahkan pls....

BERLIN (KONTEKAJA) - Pawai neo-Nazi berubah jadi kerusuhan di kota Dresden, Jerman timur, Sabtu, saat dua kelompok pengunjuk rasa bentrok dengan polisi.


Beberapa ratus pemrotes anti-Nazi berusaha menghalangi demo kelompok kanan-jauh, sehingga mengakibatkan bentrokan dengan pasukan keamanan.

Banyak kendaraan yang diparkir rusak dan polisi dilempari dengan botol oleh pengunjuk rasa tandingan. Belum ada laporan mengenai korban cedera atau ditangkap.

Sebanyak 5.000 pendukung neo-Nazi turun ke jalan guna memperingati pemboman Dresden 1945 oleh pauskan sekutu.

Sementara itu 7.500 orang berpawai menentang pawai neo-Nazi itu di Dresden.

Jerman telah berulang-kali menjadi tempat bentrokan antara pendukun sayap kanan-jauh dan demonstran tandingan.

Jumlah pendukung neo-Nazi Jerman terus bertambah selama satu tahun terakhir, demikian data statistik resmi.

Sebanyak 4.400 pendukung neo-Nazo berasal dari wilayah garis keras kanan-jauh Jerman.

Kelompok neo-Nazi juga telah berbaur dengan masyarakat arus utama Jerman dan bergabung dengan klub olah raga lokal serta klub sosial dan menjadi relawan bagi kelompok masyarakat, tempat mereka menarik remaja tanpa pekerjaan dan orang yang sudah lama menganggur.

Sebanyak 2.000 pengikut neo-Nazi juga berpawai di seluruh Eropa dan menyeru benua itu agar melindungi diri sendiri dari pengaruh asing.

Beberapa kelompok setiap tahun memperingati apa yang mereka sebut "Hari Kehormatan", saat tentara Jerman dan Hongaria berusaha menerobos ibukota Hongari, yang dikepung oleh tentara Uni Sovyet pada 1945. Peristiwa tersebut biasanya menarik beberapa ratus orang.

"Penduduk yang berusia lanjut dan kehilangan tradisi mereka telah terkikis di sini," kata Janos Endre Domokos, yang memimpin kelompok Pax Hungarica, salah satu penyelenggara pawai di Budapes.

Kelompok sayap kanan-jauh telah mendapat dukungan di Hongaria sejak krisis global melanda. Lebih dari 1.000 pendukung partai Jobbik memprotes pada Jumat, guna menentang apa yang mereka katakan sebagai kebangkitan kejahatan yang dilakukan oleh Romas, masyarakat terbesar di Hongaria.

Pada Sabtu, polisi menyatakan mereka menahan lima orang. Empat orang ditahan karena mereka membawa perlengkapan yang dapat digunakan sebagai senjata.ant/irna/rtr

kalo gitu gerakan Neo-Nazi di Jerman itu legal ya?? gmn perasaan orang2 tua yg sempat mengalami masa Hitler ya??

Gni aja kal hitler lari ke indo. Gmana cranya dia kbur dr bunker yg sudah dkepung? Bhkan bisa lari2 ke kota2 laen tanpa ada yg kenal dia? Padahal wajahnya adalah momok di dunia eropa. Dan gmana cranya dia bikin paspor? Aneh bin ajaib. Bhkan anak buahny ud pada ngebangkang ama hitler smua dan krja sama ama inggris. So gmana crny ya dy bs dpet paspor n terbng ke indo dngn slamet?

gw rasa ga perlu paspor lah utk sang Fuhrer krn jabatannya adalah pemimpin besar Nazi. bisa jadi dia pake topeng model yg di film Mision Imposibel utk menyamar, mengingat banyak berita tentang kecanggihan teknologi Nazi termasuk pasukannya yg sampe ada yg blg kalo pasukan Nazi itu terdiri dari manusia sampe yg bukan manusia (orang pintar n setan2)

[NoMe]

ya dahn kalo gak salah nazi juga punya pesawat2 aneh yang belum di publikasikan ke publik

untuk kepentingan perang tentunya....

[gegehare]

ya dahn kalo gak salah nazi juga punya pesawat2 aneh yang belum di publikasikan ke publik

untuk kepentingan perang tentunya....

yup, kata org kebanyakan itu seh dinamain UFO.....

[NoMe]

hmm
kalo namanya kurang tau gwa
tapi emang ada pesawatnya katanya yg bentuk nya kyk ufo

ada juga berita nazi punya markas di antartika gitu

[gegehare]

hmm
kalo namanya kurang tau gwa
tapi emang ada pesawatnya katanya yg bentuk nya kyk ufo

ada juga berita nazi punya markas di antartika gitu

markas di antartika ga masuk akal zzzz

[NoMe]

ada koq waktu itu bahasannya di sini cuman dimana ya ~_~

[cloudkr]

Harap Dikurangi One Liner Post nya thx

regards


cloudkr

[luna_croz]

Gene cuy. Org2 pada benci htler. Dan nazi saat it ud ancur. Apa hebadnya sang fuhrer saat itu? Dan gmana crany dia bs kabur ke indo it masi non sense. Lagi2 ufo! Ga ada bangke ufo-nya dan it cuma msh gambr doank! Jgn pd lebay ah u pada.. Di rusia aj ud pd mati kedingnan tu tentara nazi, gmana di antartika?
Jgn pd post yg aneh2 yg ga make sense d. Antartika itu benua es! Kal ada panas maka es meleleh disana.

[Kaixa]

hmm
kalo namanya kurang tau gwa
tapi emang ada pesawatnya katanya yg bentuk nya kyk ufo

ada juga berita nazi punya markas di antartika gitu

gw rasa berita itu cm bohong belaka utk menakuti sekutu. kalo markas mungkin di negara atau daerah yg terdekat dg antartika gw percaya bisa jadi itu fakta. mengingat dulu Jerman dg Nazi nya menjadi salah 1 super power pd masa itu.

pesawat2 buatan Nazi disebut UFO krn mungkin dari pihak teknisi Nazi blom sempat mengumumkan nama pesawatnya.
kalo era modern sekarang mungkin kayak F-22 Raptor n F-35 Lightning kali ya?

[Dr.Error]

Gene cuy. Org2 pada benci htler. Dan nazi saat it ud ancur. Apa hebadnya sang fuhrer saat itu? Dan gmana crany dia bs kabur ke indo it masi non sense. Lagi2 ufo! Ga ada bangke ufo-nya dan it cuma msh gambr doank! Jgn pd lebay ah u pada.. Di rusia aj ud pd mati kedingnan tu tentara nazi, gmana di antartika?
Jgn pd post yg aneh2 yg ga make sense d. Antartika itu benua es! Kal ada panas maka es meleleh disana.

really? then why british soviet and US and Nazi send alot of scientish there? your answer unreasonable. i already read alot of maganize,article and newspaper everthing about antartica, manyp people sure there's a secret base, ieven US satelite accidently find BIG HOLE in antartica, if you want to say soemthing i think better with prove not just "talk to much' but do more.
i getting bored post here...