John Titor Penjelajah Waktu

[Myozi]

gw sih emang g percaya klo mesin waktu itu bisa di buat
klo emang ada argumen lain sih gpp
tapi gw suka klo ada teori yang menyatakan mesin waktu itu dpt dibuat ^^

[EiruN-]

klo mo ngeliat teori2 mesin waktu buatan anak indo ada tuh di indogamerspedia..


hmm.. emang ga ada salahnya sii klo ngikutin sarannyal..
gw jga emang mikirnya dunia dia ama dunia kita itu beda dimensi gitu..


ya udah lah.. ga ada salahnya juga ngikutin saran dari john titor..

[gabrielle]

G cuma memberikan sebuah cerita. .kLu U mau berARGUMEN ap itu terseraH!!emanknya G sanak-famili titor. .ampE tau detail. .rekaman dia balik aj udah diamanin am org amrik. .
PRO KONTRA BIASA

easy broo..jangan terlalu ditanggapin kata2 sweperti itu..
nanti bisa pucing sendiri loh..

hehehee...

lg pl gk ada slah nya juga kalo kta berfantasi ttg mesin waktu atau what ever lah..
justru dari fantasy dan imajinasi kita segala sesuatu itu mungkin..

dan ingat..

tidak ada sesuatu hal di dunia ini yang tidak mungkin

maju terus geoz..

keep posting..

[bye-]

gw rasa mesin waktu itu ga ada dan cuma rekayasa..
klo dipikir logika.. kok ada orang dari tahun 2036? sekarang kita penduduk 2008 berarti sebelom kita lahir dah ada dimensi dunia 28 tahun ke depannya dong?
ah HOAX nih..
lagian klo dari segi religi u pada juga yang maha kuasa kan yang nentuin hari esok..
klo adapun mesin waktu gw peracaya kita cuma isa kembali ke masa lalu dan kita ga exsist di masa lalu ..

[LuckBringer]

@atas

Kaya nya Mesin Waktu Itu ada Cuman Kita
Beda Dimensi lagi Ama yang Menaikki mesin waktu itu
Gw bingung @_@

Mana gw tau Yang bikin alam semesta Ini Allah SWT bukan gw

--a

[GeoZ]

gw sih emang g percaya klo mesin waktu itu bisa di buat
klo emang ada argumen lain sih gpp
tapi gw suka klo ada teori yang menyatakan mesin waktu itu dpt dibuat ^^

hE. .hE nothink imPossibLe. .

klo mo ngeliat teori2 mesin waktu buatan anak indo ada tuh di indogamerspedia..


hmm.. emang ga ada salahnya sii klo ngikutin sarannyal..
gw jga emang mikirnya dunia dia ama dunia kita itu beda dimensi gitu..


ya udah lah.. ga ada salahnya juga ngikutin saran dari john titor..

yuPh G cm mau ngasi tau saran dya. .sOaLnya G udh baca berkali2 dan itupun ga JELEK!!
thX post na. .

[gabrielle]

gw rasa mesin waktu itu ga ada dan cuma rekayasa..
klo dipikir logika.. kok ada orang dari tahun 2036? sekarang kita penduduk 2008 berarti sebelom kita lahir dah ada dimensi dunia 28 tahun ke depannya dong?
ah HOAX nih..
lagian klo dari segi religi u pada juga yang maha kuasa kan yang nentuin hari esok..
klo adapun mesin waktu gw peracaya kita cuma isa kembali ke masa lalu dan kita ga exsist di masa lalu ..

tidak ada yang tidak mungkin di dunia ini, manusia sudah punya takdir, tapi manusia bisa merubah takdirnya sendiri dengan berusaha..

manusia berusaha tapi Tuhan yang menentukan..

hoax atau tidaknya ttg mesin waktu ini, gw percaya bahwa suatu saat kita bisa membuat mesin waktu..

[True_Thunder]

Jika benar kata di Titor itu bahwa mesin waktu itu akan menjadi satu hal yang umum di masa depan nanti kenapa ?
Baru dia seorang yang mengakuinya?
seluruh orang di zaman 2036 tidak pindah k zaman kita karena terjadi perpecahan politik di zaman tersebut ?
dia tidak mempresentasikan alat yang dia sebut mesin waktu itu ?
dia tidak memberi tahu tragedi yang baru2 ini terjadi d india ?
dengan pengalamanya yang keliling2 waktu seharusnya dia akan terlihat lebih tua di zamanya donk , karna regenerasi organ tubuh manusiakan juga dipengaruhi waktu ?

[Menara_Jakarta]

John Titor sendiri sudah dikategorikan sebagai hoax dalam wikipedia prediksinya pun udah pada meleset.

[JasonBlake]

wakkaa basi amat ini ..
dah ga pernah d bahas lg ni perkara sejak 2006 ..
eh d bahas lg ..
wkwkkww ..

[GeoZ]

John Titor sendiri sudah dikategorikan sebagai hoax dalam wikipedia prediksinya pun udah pada meleset.

TIDAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!
minta bukti dari wikipedia klu itu hoax kk. .

wakkaa basi amat ini ..
dah ga pernah d bahas lg ni perkara sejak 2006 ..
eh d bahas lg ..
wkwkkww ..

SAnThE dOnK kLU U NGERASA GA BASI. .ELO BISA BUAT THREAD & SHARE kE anak2 indogamers..
JGN CUMA MASUK DOANK!!

[Menara_Jakarta]

TIDAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!
minta bukti dari wikipedia klu itu hoax kk. .



SAnThE dOnK kLU U NGERASA GA BASI. .ELO BISA BUAT THREAD & SHARE kE anak2 indogamers..
JGN CUMA MASUK DOANK!!

Examination of the claims

[edit] Predictive failures

The posts were met with skepticism when they were being posted, but it was impossible to prove beforehand that they would not happen. Because Titor claimed the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics was correct, effectively meaning that his travel was from a parallel universe and that things could occur differently than he had predicted, his claims were unfalsifiable.

One of Titor's earliest claims was that CERN would discover the basis for time travel sometime around 2001, with the creation of miniature black holes about half a year after his departure. This event did not occur. An article occurring generally around the time he had predicted about miniature black holes being created by CERN (a recurring theme, also ascribed to Fermilab and Brookhaven at various times[16]) was taken by some to be evidence of this claim; but these events did not occur either. Civil war did not break out after the 2004 presidential election, despite the political unrest involved with it.

A particularly obvious example involves the Olympics, whereof Titor claimed: "As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004."[17] The uneventful staging of the 2006 Winter Olympics refutes this claim; however, there were arguments as to whether or not Titor was referring exclusively to the Summer Olympics.[18] A successful realization of the 2008 Summer Olympics has once again determined the inaccuracy of this claim.

[edit] Problems with the technology

In the context of the demonstration image provided by John Titor, the laser pointer's beam being "bent" reveals the obvious inconsistency of objects near the beam not appearing to be bent as well. The framing of the window visible in the background, for instance, should appear distorted in proximity to a large gravity gradient, but it does not. Some have speculated the "beam" is an optical fiber.[19]

Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct [20]. Supporters state that this information was not publicly available in 2000 or 2001 when Titor made his declaration,[21] and Titor himself stated that this feature was "discovered" as late as 2036 when Unix, as the underlying source behind all computer operating systems still running local infrastructures and other computational tasks, was only two years away from not being capable to function anymore due to 32-bit integer limitations (see Year 2038 problem).[22]

However, this emulation capability was widely known in the industry and commented on in depth in numerous publications dealing with both the 5100 and programmable microcode in general.[23] References to this fact were also available on the Internet as early as 1999 and therefore predated Titor's postings. This is a fairly obscure bit of trivia, however, which suggests that whoever was making the posts either was familiar with the machine specifically or else had at least a general interest in retrocomputing.[24]

"Apparently, APL was a difficult task for IBM to accomplish with an interpreter in the 5100, so instead they wrote an emulation program so that the S/360 mainframe version of APL could be run instead -- The 5100 is like a desktop IBM S/360 mainframe computer which only runs APL."[25]

[edit] Problems with the story

Numerous commentators have pointed out the broad similarities between the Titor story and Pat Frank's classic post-apocalyptic science fiction novel Alas, Babylon.[26] Alas, Babylon takes place in a small town in Florida just before and after a nuclear war and describes the struggle to survive as a family in the aftermath. In the book, the protagonist lives in the mythical town of "Fort Repose", while Titor claimed to live in the "Fort", formerly the University of Florida (UF). An examination of the claims also suggests several inconsistencies within the story. For instance, in some posts Titor claims that money is widely used and people still have credit cards, despite his statement that centralized banking no longer exists (though that of course would not exclude the possibilitiy of private currencies being used). In another posting he speculated that today's dollar would be usable in his time, but that this would be after the reorganization of the federal government according to his own history, potentially making the currency worthless.[27] In most cases, he claims to have been given his basic education at UF, but in another post claims to be home-schooled [7].

Other problems with the story include inconsistencies relative to Titor's comments. His first appearance appears to have been, not in 2000, but in the summer of 1998 through two faxes to Art Bell's radio program Coast to Coast AM. When he began posting the online story Y2k (1-1-2000) had come and gone without any real problems. Yet in the 1998 faxes to Art Bell he said, "Y2K is a disaster. Many people freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The gov. tries to keep power by instituting marshall law..." [28]

In the online story he stated that a part his mission was to prevent the coming world war by changing history. Yet during October of 2000, a month before he began posting, he appeared in a UK IRC chatroom. In the chat log his response to Yariesa's question asking if we could change the future that he was predicting he answered, "It's too late. I just wish things didn't have to happen they way they will." [29]

[edit] Inquiry on the story

An Italian TV program (Voyager - Ai confini della conoscenza) aired an investigation of the John Titor story on May 19, 2008.[30] Mike Lynch, the private detective hired to investigate, found that there were no registry traces, even far in the past, of any John Titor or Titor family. In addition, the John Titor Foundation had no office and its address is a rented post box; no tapes, recordings, or evidence of Titor were found; and only Larry Haber (an advocate and owner of the commercial rights about all concerns involving John Titor) confirmed his existence. Lynch's conclusion is that John Titor may be John Rick Haber, a computer expert who is or was Larry Haber's brother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

Anyway, jangan bertindak seolah John Titor itu pasti ada dengan post "tidaaaaaaaaaaaaak" itu, gak semua yang Anda liat itu benar.

[icy_thelonius]

Konsep mesin waktu, John mengaku mesin waktu yg di pakai dia adalah C204 yg dpt memuat sampai 3 org mesin ini dimiliki oleh militer amerika di tahun 2036, dan mesin waktu bukan barang yg aneh di masa dia, ada lagi yg tipe lebih besar yaitu C206 yg di buat oleh GE (General Electric) dapat sampai 7 orang. Mesin ini hanya mampu membawa mereka maksium 60tahun ke masa silam dgn kecepatan 10tahun per jam.
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3 org doank yg bs masuk dlm mesin waktunya dia tapi ga disebut bentuk mobil.
apa hubungannya juga dengan gambar2 yg ada?
pastinya timetravelernya ga dimasukin ke dalem kotak berwarna hitam itu kan?
trus kalo mesin waktunya itu berupa benda yg bisa dicopot pasang, ga perlu mobil buat menampung orang (gw sadar koq ditulis "butuh kecepatan")

Hoax i think

[EiruN-]

udah terbukti HOAX ya?

emang sih gw rada aneh aja..

soalnya dari yg gw baca thread buat mesin waktu di indogamerspedia..

yg gw tau sii kita cuma bisa ke masa depan.. klo ke masa lalu impossible banget..

[JasonBlake]

ud terbukti kok hoax!
org ni org pun kek ngaku2 aja d internet kek nya d blog getu ..
ga ada yg pernah ketemu ni org!
trus dy jg cuma beberapa bulan getu update dgn prediksi2 yg skrg sangat amat jauh meleset!
itu sih yg g tau ..