Apakah Leonardo Da Vinci Orang Arab?

[Shinichi_Kudo]

hmm,... ini pelajaran kuliah semester 3 gw.. dah rada2 lopa,..

Leonardo Da Vinci itu orang jenius.. repot >,<
dia menemukan macem2, sketsa sketsa nya sampe skrng masi ada kok.

cuma kalo para ilmuan / professor jaman skrng nyoba ngikutin sketsa yang dia bikin, malah gagal semua.
konon, Leonardo Da Vinci itu memberikan perhitungan perhitungan yang sengaja di salahin di sketsa nya itu agar terjaga kerahasiaannya, dan hanya dia yang tau.

dia juga sering keliling dunia kok, pernah dipaksa bikin alat perang, spt tank baja, alat menyelam pertama,dll jadi mungkin aja sidik jari nya ada di berbagai tempat, karena emang jaman dulu kan sering perang, barangkali aja dia jadi seseorang "warlock" nya.
hoho..

tapi pasti kok dia orang eropa, cuma gw lupa detail nya..

[Ache]

Eh tapi yang dimaksud disini bukan dia kewarganegaraan Arab, tapi dia punya keturunan Arab.

and Caterina, a peasant[8][6] who may have been a slave from the Middle East.[nb 6][9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard...i#cite_note-14
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100961_pf.html

[Ache]

Experts Reconstruct Leonardo Fingerprint

By MARTA FALCONI
The Associated Press
Friday, December 1, 2006; 10:55 PM

ROME -- Anthropologists said they have pieced together Leonardo da Vinci's left index fingerprint _ a discovery that could help provide information on such matters as the food the artist ate and whether his mother was of Arabic origin.

The reconstruction of the fingerprint was the result of three years of research and could help attribute disputed paintings or manuscripts, said Luigi Capasso, an anthropologist and director of the Anthropology Research Institute at Chieti University in central Italy.

"It adds the first touch of humanity. We knew how Leonardo saw the world and the future ... but who was he? This biological information is about his being human, not being a genius," Capasso said in a recent telephone interview.

The research was based on a first core of photographs of about 200 fingerprints _ most of them partial_ taken from about 52 papers handled by Leonardo in his life. Capasso's work, presented in 2005 in a specialized magazine called Anthropologie, published in the Czech Republic, is on display in an exhibition in the town of Chieti through March 30.

The artist often ate while working, and Capasso and other experts said his fingerprints could include traces of saliva, blood or the food he ate the night before. It is information that could help clear up questions about his origins.

Certain distinctive features are more common in the fingerprints of some ethnic populations, experts say.

"The one we found in this finger tip applies to 60 percent of the Arabic population, which suggests the possibility that his mother was of Middle Eastern origin," Capasso said.

Other experts, however, say that determining ethnicity based on fingerprints is vague.

What the science says, "generally speaking, is that if your parent has a lot of arches, you'll probably have a lot of arches," said Simon Cole, associate professor of criminology, law and society at the University of California at Irvine.

"The science essentially comes up with breakdowns: x percent of Asians have arches, x have whorls, x have loops. Some races have very low incidences of some patterns and very high incidences of others."

But "you can't predict one person's race from these kinds of incidences," he said, especially if looking at only one finger.

The idea that Leonardo's mother could have been a slave who came to Tuscany from Constantinople _ now Istanbul _ is not new and has been the object of other research.

Alessandro Vezzosi, a Leonardo expert and the director of a museum dedicated to the artist in his hometown of Vinci, said there are documents that appear to back this up.

"This coincides with documented indications that she was Oriental, at least from the Mediterranean area, not a peasant of Vinci," he said.

Vezzosi, who manages the archive of documents Capasso used for his study, warned that her origin cannot be determined with any certainty until a contract documenting her sale is found.

"Still, her name was Caterina, the most common name among slaves in Tuscany, and we have no certain elements about her," he said.

The experts say some of the fingerprints left on the manuscripts might belong to the people who handled them over time. However, those caused by attempts to remove ink blots were surely left by the author, Capasso said.

Biological information on Leonardo is largely incomplete. The artist, who was generally but not exclusively left-handed, used his fingers to paint, and his thumb print recurs on the manuscripts, Vezzosi said.

Leonardo sometimes worked while eating or traveling, and his fingers were often dirty, sometimes with residue of food, Vezzosi said.

Carlo Vecce, a professor of Italian literature at Naples' University and a leading Leonardo expert, said the research, in which he was not involved, appears to be "founded."

"The research on Leonardo's fingerprints is very interesting. It's always good to locate and distinguish these details both on the paintings and on the drawings," he said. "The fingerprints can tell us if Leonardo was there or if he intervened (on a painting), it's a hint." Vecce noted, though, that a fingerprint is not enough proof to attribute a work with certainty, and such a discovery does not necessarily add much to what is known about the artist.

"It give us the illusion of a contact with the genius," he said. "But the most important things about Leonardo are those that concern his intellectual activity, those that we get by reading his words or interpreting what he wrote."
© 2006 The Associated Press

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100961_pf.html

[jkt-7AbZ]

ya eropa pernah di jajah
coba lw pikir aja
sereman org arab ato eropa
haha
jd cerita nya dlu org arab menjajah bngsa lain untuk kemudian di jadikan budak lalu di jual
makanya dlu org arab di blg bangsa jahiliyah
bangsa yg paling ancur

Menurut gw sih ga jelas neh..
Setau gw pada masa jahiliyah, orang Eropa dulunya satu kesatuan di bawah kekuasaan Romawi dan sebagian besar Asia Timur (Arab) berada di bawah kekuasaan Persia.. kemudian pada saat Islam masuk (atau Arab) atau setelah jaman jahiliyah, Eropa berafiliasi dengan Arab baik dengan peperangan maupun dengan damai.. itupun tidak semua daratan Eropa masuk di bawah pengaruh Kesultanan Islam, dikarenakan pada abad pertengahan Eropa (Kegelapan Eropa), banyak wilayah Eropa dipegang oleh Raja2nya masing2, seperti Kerajaan Perancis, Kerajaan Britania (Inggris), Kerajaan Jerman (duh lupa gw istilahnya Jerman pada masa itu).. setau gw, yang terpengaruh dengan kekuasaan Arab (islam) pada masa itu ialah wilayah di sekitar Konstatinopel (Turki sekarang), Spanyol (adanya kesultanan Andalusia), dan beberapa wilayah di sekitar Laut Tengah..

Jadi kekuasaan Arab atas tanah Eropa terjadi setelah Kesultanan Arab terbentuk, atau dengan kata lain setelah masa Jahiliyah.. Karena itu tadi, pada masa Jahiliyah, kerajaan Adidaya pada masa Jahiliyah di sekitar Laut Tengah adalah ROmawi dan Persia (Iran sekarang).. dan penjualan budak itu memang sudah tradisi ROmawi, Persia dan kerajaan2 di dunia dari dulu sampai dengan kolonialisasi (penjajahan sekaligus pembudakan besar2an)..

CMIIW

[Almighty]

klo menurut saya dia hanya org dengan keturunan arab,,
bukan berdarah arab asli ^^

[jkt-7AbZ]

klo menurut saya dia hanya org dengan keturunan arab,,
bukan berdarah arab asli ^^

ya Leonardo berdasarkan fakta sejarah merupakan keturunan Arab dari garis ibu.. bukan Arab murni (Arab bapak-ibu)

[Duo Maxwell]

dia menemukan macem2, sketsa sketsa nya sampe skrng masi ada kok.

cuma kalo para ilmuan / professor jaman skrng nyoba ngikutin sketsa yang dia bikin, malah gagal semua.
konon, Leonardo Da Vinci itu memberikan perhitungan perhitungan yang sengaja di salahin di sketsa nya itu agar terjaga kerahasiaannya, dan hanya dia yang tau.

Bilangan Fibonacci

sebenarnya Bilangan ini ditemukan sama si Leonardo Fibonacci(jenis matematika di zaman itu), Da Vinci kemudian memakai konsepnya didalam sketsa dan lukisannya

[arkdevil]

mungkin sih..
orang barat kan suka ganti2 nama orang...
banyak lho ilmuan2 arab yang sangat terkenal di barat..
tp kita lebih kenal mereka dengan nama barat mereka

[Achernar_Altair]

Salah smua itu kalo bilang bangsa arab ngejajah eropa pas jaman jahiliyah pra islam, justru zaman jahiliyah itu orang2 arab dungu2 kalah maju sm eropa, br Pasca perang salib Eropa mengalami masa yg disebut Dark Age, krn kemajuan teknologi berada pd dunia Islam dan wilayah kekuasaannya yg sangat luas, lagipula g ad cerita Eropa dijajah Islam terus orang2nya di jadiin budak di buku sejarah manapun, ngarang oe,kekhalifahan Islam pasca perang salib ya kira2 pra Renaissance tahun 1200an cm menguasai ampe Andalusia (sekarang Spanyol), jd negara eropa laen g ksentuh, lgpula bkan dijajah, dijajah = Indonesia diperes kekayaannya, kalo Eropa kebalikannya, kalo bukan dari ilmu pengetahuan para ilmuwan Islam pd saat itu, mungkin Eropa masih kaya negara2 Afrika gtu, UDIK

[LanRuofei]

Leonardo berdasarkan fakta sejarah merupakan keturunan Arab
gw tau dari temen sih
mngkn2 aja ini
nice share gan

[LenD]

gw bingung u orang...
ane" aja...dia mau orang mana terserah dia donk...
dia orang arab atau eropa atau indonesia...
toh terserah dia,...peduli amat u..-_-"

yang penting dia Legenda dari semua yang ada....

[Josie]

bknnya ud jelas ..
qlo orang arab namanya pasti mahamud ato yamahamud kek
wkwkkw
ini namanya leonardo davinci
menurut gw ..
gag mngkn orang arab
tapi ada kemungkinannya sih
nice share TS *

[FeaR-Spydi]

wew.. org arab?
tp aneh klo org arab nama nya Leonardo Da Vinci, terkesan dri eropa gt nama nya gan..

[lalat-killer]

kalo soal nama kan nga masalah karna dia lahir di eropa dan bapak nya eropa tentu memakai nama khas eropa... di tempat kerja saya ada orang china karna lama tingal di indonesia orang tua nya dia di beri nama jefri adrianto padahal dia murni china 100% nga ada nama china sama sekali di nama nya tuh....

tapi kalo keturunan arab bisa jadi ya... kebenaran nya 50 50 lah

[MONKEY-D[LUFFY]]

klo menurutku si gk mungkin dia orang arab...

wong wajah di fotonya aj bule gtu, jauh dari arab