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    Quote Originally Posted by sariayu View Post
    Modern Mongolians still use such bones, known as shagai, for games and fortunetelling.

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    The invention of dicing is attributed to India by some accounts.[4][5] Some of the earliest archaeological evidence of oblong gambling dice have been found in Harrapan sites such as Kalibangan, Lothal, Ropar and surrounding areas dating back to the third millennium BCE, which were used for gambling.[6][7]

    The oblong or cubical dice (akṣa) is the precursor of the more primitive vibhīṣaka—small, hard nuts drawn randomly to obtain factors of a certain integer.[8] Early references to the dicing can be found in the Ṛg Veda (c. early 2nd millennium BCE)[9][6] as well as the newer Atharva Veda (c. late 2nd millennium ~ early 1st millennium BCE).[10][6] It is also mentioned in the great Hindu epic, the Mahabharata, where Yudhisthira plays a game of dice against the Kauravas for the northern kingdom of Hastinapura.

    The use of dice is believed to have later spread to Persia from India, influencing Persian board games.[11] Excavations at the Shahr-i Sokhta (Persian شهر سوخته , literally "The Burnt City'") archaeological site in south-eastern Iran yielded one of the oldest known dice which were excavated as part of a 5000-year-old backgammon set, which was probably imported from India.[12][13]

    Dice were probably originally made from the ankle bones (specifically the talus or "astragalus") of hoofed animals (such as oxen), colloquially known as "knucklebones", which are approximately tetrahedral. Modern Mongolians still use such bones, known as shagai, for games and fortunetelling. In addition to bone, ivory, wood, metal, and stone materials have been commonly used. Recently, the use of plastics, including cellulose acetate and Bakelite, is nearly universal. It is almost impossible to trace clearly the development of dice as distinguished from knucklebones, because ancient writers confused the two. It is certain, however, that both were used in prehistoric times.

    There are several biblical references to "casting lots", as in Psalm 22, indicating that it had become commonplace in the region as of the time of King David. In its primitive form knucklebones was essentially a game of skill played by women and children. In a derivative form of knucklebones, the four sides of the bones received different values and were counted as with modern dice. Gambling with three or sometimes two dice was a very popular form of amusement in Greece, especially with the upper classes, and was an almost invariable accompaniment to symposia.

    The Romans were passionate gamblers, especially in the luxurious days of the Roman Empire, and dicing was a favorite form, though it was forbidden except during the Saturnalia. Horace derided what he presented as a typical youth of the period, who wasted his time amid the dangers of dicing instead of taming his charger and giving himself up to the hardships of the chase. Throwing dice for money was the cause of many special laws in Rome. One of these stated that no suit could be brought by a person who allowed gambling in his house, even if he had been cheated or assaulted. Professional gamblers were common, and some of their loaded dice are preserved in museums. The common public-houses were the resorts of gamblers, and a fresco is extant showing two quarrelling dicers being ejected by the indignant host. 20 sided dice date back to Roman times, as far back as 2nd century AD [1].

    Tacitus states that the Germans were passionately fond of dicing, so much so, indeed, that, having lost everything, they would even stake their personal liberty. Centuries later, during the Middle Ages, dicing became the favorite pastime of the knights, and both dicing schools and guilds of dicers existed. After the downfall of feudalism the famous German mercenaries called landsknechts established a reputation as the most notorious dicing gamblers of their time. Many of the dice of the period were curiously carved in the images of men and beasts. In France both knights and ladies were given to dicing. This persisted through repeated legislation, including interdictions on the part of St. Louis in 1254 and 1256.

    In China, India, Japan, Korea, and other Asiatic countries, dice have always been popular and are so still. The markings on Chinese dominoes evolved from the markings on dice, taken two at a time.

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    judi, prostitusi, dll kan emang udah ada dari jaman dulu .. tapi apa benar tu dadu buat judi ??

    kalo emang bener berarti termasuk game legendaris donk

    tapi keren juga ya itu tulang nya ga ancur walau udah ribuan tahun
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    Jadi yang bener yang mana nih, ada yang bilang India, ada yang bilang Mesopotamia?

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    weq kk menara bisa quick review indo gak ?

    klo ingris ...
    uh...
    susah baca na ._.

    btw, dulu kan masi jaman barter ? apa yang di judi kan ?
    1 paket kesedihan ku...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menara_Jakarta View Post
    Fosil Dadu



    Masih ada sangkut pautnya nih sama penemuan mata buatan berusia 4.800 thn di pusat penggalian situs purbakala Burnt City,Iran.Kali ini para Tim Arkeolog berhasil menemukan permainan dadu tertua di dunia berusia 5000 thn di tempat yang sama.
    Menurut mereka,temuan baru tsb sekaligus telah memecahkan rekor temuan permainan dadu tertua sebelumnya yang berhasil ditemukan di Wilayah Guangdong, China(2004). Pada penggalian sebelumnya di reruntuhan peradaban Mesopotamia, permainan dadu juga sempat ditemukan,namun usianya jauh lebih muda 200 thn dari yang ini. Selain itu, sebuah kotak persegi panjang yang terbuat dari semacam kayu pirus ditemukan bersamaan dengan penemuan permainan dadu tsb.Namun sayang, kotak yang disinyalir merupakan papan permainannya itu telah hancur terkikis,namun masih bisa sedikit diidentifikasi. Kira-kira terdapat 20 lubang kecil berjejer pada kotak tsb dengan hiasan ukiran ular ditiap sudutnya. (mirip ular tangga kah? tapi kok pake lobang-lobang segala?) Dari penemuan ini, Para Arkeolog dapat menarik kesimpulan, mungkin permainan dadu memang berasal dari daerah Mesopotamia, yang kemudian tersebar ke wilayah timur, terutama ke China dan Jepang.

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    oh wow... ternyata permainan pake dadu udah tua sekali ya...

    gw kira baru lahir pas jaman2nya mafia2 italia, soalnya judi itu dagangan yang laku keras

    oh ternyata udah tua toh...

    yg dibold: congklak kah? 20 lobang terus ada ular diujungnya. mirip maenan congklak. tapi congklak pake dadu? hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfabian View Post
    weq kk menara bisa quick review indo gak ?

    klo ingris ...
    uh...
    susah baca na ._.

    btw, dulu kan masi jaman barter ? apa yang di judi kan ?
    Intinya buat permainan dan judi, sama aja.

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