Last edited by TwinCam-; 24-05-09 at 11:48.
Iy, tapi klo kmu BM itu animasi nya akan keluar dengan jelas banget. Jadi biasanya musuh bakal menghindari menyerang kmu selama 5 detik (dgn disable, maka kmu tidak bisa mukul jg, dibiarin aja dolo sampe 5 detik)
Mnrt ku yg paling efektif sih buat Axe, modal Dagger BM sdh hmpr pasti return akan sangat optimal.
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Blade Mail return magic damage juga kok ~
Tapi blade mail damage returnnya juga magic ~
Jadi
Damage yang dikeluarin musuh => Misal 100 dmg Physical
Damage yang kita terima (1 Armor, 6% Dmg Reduction) => 94 damage
Kita return => 94 damage
Damage yang musuh terima (75% Magic Reduction) => 70.5 damage
Atau
Damage yang dikeluarin musuh => Misal 500 dmg Magic (Finger)
Damage yang kita terima (75% Magic Reduction) => 375 damage
Kita return => 375 damage
Damage yang musuh terima (75% Magic Reduction) => 281.25 damage
Last edited by SrZ]Xevirath; 24-05-09 at 13:08.
Ajaran siapa se bm cm blkin mele?
baca lah itu tooltip bm
btw, blade mail bs di stack pake refreser ato -wtf
dlm -dm (entah mode lain) hero mati tetep kena return bm, dan hero mati tsb bisa mati lg, lalu icon hero di kiri bklan jd bnyk kyk maen -noherolimit
replay ada di vm gw di post oleh seseorg
wtf dah
ada juga yang nyebarin teori sesat --
Yang pasti dan tidak perlu diperdebatkan:
Old BM
Damage return 20%, dilakukan sebelon perhitungan armor reduction, sebelon triggered heal, setelah critical, sebelon diblock vanguard etc., khusus untuk damage tipe physic, normal << jadi khusus untuk melee damage
New BM
Damage return 100%, dilakukan setelah armor reduction etc. etc. (prioritas SAMA seperti triggered heal, dan tidak saling menginterferensi), sebagai damage magic. Semua unit, trigger, dummy yang dimiliki oleh player tertentu akan direturn terhadap HERO milik player itu (wtf, gw penasaran klo pake noherolimit sama Meepo ~~)
0) Targetability (Ethereal, Mechanical, Ancient, Magic Immune, etc)
Attack starts
1) Unit is attacked-triggers runs (Empowering Haste, Counter Helix, Return, Craggy Exterior, etc)
2) Target miss chance (Evasion)
3) Attacker miss chance (Blind, Drunken Haze, Smoke Screen, terrain elevation)
Damage output is calculated
If melee
4) Critical Strikes are calculated in order of acquisition. Critical Strikes overrides previous Critical Strikes.
5) Bashes are calculated, and applied as they were a seperate spell (identical to storm bolt). Unsure about this.
6) Cleave.
If ranged
4) Critical Strikes and Bashes are calculated in order of acquisition. Critical Strike overrides previous Critical Strikes and Bashes.
5) It seems like bashes are applied as a 0 damage Storm Bolt, or equivalent. Unsure about this.
6) Splash.
Damage recieved by target is calculated
7) Spell Block
8) Feedback.
9) Damage return (Spiked Carapace)
10) Spirit Link (One), converted/shared damage is applied after in a seperate event.
11) Mana Shield.
12) Damage Block (Stout Shield, Vanguard, Kraken Shell), in order of acquisition. They will override each other, making the last ability aquired override all others if it activates.
Buffs, they are calculated in reverse order of application
*) Incinerate (Fury Swipes), works only if current damage is over 0.
*) Berserker
14) Armor Type and Armor Value (can't reduce below 1. If damage is 0.5 here, and you got 50% reduction, it will stay at 0.5. If you have -50% reduction the damage will be increased to 0.75).
15) Phase Shift
16) Unit takes damage-triggers runs (triggered heals like Backtrack, Dispersion, Gravekeeper's Cloak, etc)
17) Life Leech, leeches a % from min(current damage, current hp).
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Klo 1 meepo mukul, yg 3 lainnya tidak kena efek BM kan?
Klo creep nya Chen mukul, Chen terkena efek BM tidak?
Spirit Bear mukul, Syla kena efek BM tidak?
Last edited by Jin_Botol; 25-05-09 at 10:29.
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@^
Untuk meepo gw belon bisa klarifikasi T_T gw belon coba
untuk chen, iya, yang kena BM chennya
untuk sylla, iya, yang kena BM syllanya
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nanya donk kk :
1. misalnya lion di repel ama purist, trus lion finger ke axe yang pake blademail. apakah lion terkena return bldemail
2. misalnya mortred di decrepify ama pugna, trus dia mukul axe yg pake blademail. apakah mortred terkena return blademail
3. misalnya axe yg pake blademail darahnya tinggal 10, trus kena blinkstrike ama rikimaru, dan axe lngsung mati. apakah rikimaru terkena return blademail dari axe yang dah mati tsbt
4. apakah phase sift nya puck bisa hindarin return blademail
Last edited by [S]ummoner; 25-05-09 at 12:07. Reason: lupa ngasih enter trus biar enak diliatnya ga sempit
Cinta tak perlu dicari, dia ada di sekitar kita, tinggal rasakan dan syukurilah... ^^
1.tidak
2.di decrep ga bisa mukul
3.kena
4.bisa
ooOh pas di decrepify ga isa mukul yak, kirain bisa mukul tp emang dia ga isa dipukul.
kalo gitu mortrednya blink strike deh. kan blink strikenya phisical damage tuh. ato jgn2 ga bs blink strike jg
1. tidak.
2. tidak. Dalem decre g bs mukul ato dipukul (dan semua damage selain magic (pure,fisik) jadi 0), klo dia blink (bukan dalem call), ya, dia kena return 30/60/90/120 damage diamplify 44% dikurangi MRnya, tergantung level blink.
3. Kena, 10 doank.
4. Bisa. Contoh kasus adalah phase autocast, dia kluarin orb, kena musuh yg BM. Otomatis akan kluar phasenya...
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