Analisa skill passive

[Asquall]

@jin_botol
kalo berdasarkan definisimu, emang BT digolongin pasif, tapi untuk kategori objektifnya (dari engine wc3) BT adalah skill aktif ('pasif' karena disuruh ngejalanin BT klo HP drop)...

Invoker... semua skillnya aktif (engine wc3), pertambahan blablabla itu karena trigger... ditulisin pasif karena supaya engga dikira kek empower ato living armor ato skill2 laen yang harus dicast ke unit duluan...

Splitshot... termasuk aktif, tapi efeknya 'activate/deactivate'... entah pake trigger ato bukan, tapi klo iya, berarti triggernya ngasih ability Barrage n ngambil ability Barrage... klo gw bilang ini aktif...

[Jin_Botol]

@jin_botol
kalo berdasarkan definisimu, emang BT digolongin pasif, tapi untuk kategori objektifnya (dari engine wc3) BT adalah skill aktif ('pasif' karena disuruh ngejalanin BT klo HP drop)...

Klo bgtu definisi skill passive itu apa?

BT akan secara otomatis diaktifkan apabila HP drop, bukankah berarti sama kasus nya dgn Counter Helix dan Untouchable yg bereaksi apabila terkena pukulan? jadi rancu klo gini..

[tkgsablon]

rencarnation bukannyaskill aktif?

kan ngk ada tulisan

passive di skillnya

[Ch41n_L19htn1n9]

kan ga bisa di klik

contoh lain pasif ber cooldown: geminate attack

on second thought, reincar itu aktif

[tkgsablon]

kan ga bisa di klik

contoh lain pasif ber cooldown: geminate attack

on second thought, reincar itu aktif

reicarnation aktif kan??

mantep

[Jin_Botol]

Kenapa Reincan bisa jadi skill aktif?

Skill pasif bisa juga adalah skill yang akan jalan otomatis dengan syarat-syarat tertentu, misal Reincan butuh mana tertentu dan tidak dalam kondisi CD (dan HP hero =0), Counter Helix yg menggunakan chance dari banyak nya pukulan yg diterima, Untouchable yg baru jalan jika di pukul oleh musuh, dsb.

[Asquall]

reincar = based on Ankh of Reincarnation... masih berani bilang aktif?

[tkgsablon]

reincar = based on Ankh of Reincarnation... masih berani bilang pasif?

yang gw bingung

semua skill passive

ada tulisannya passive

tapi skill ini ngk ada tulisannya

berarti ini skill aktif

[Jin_Botol]

reincar = based on Ankh of Reincarnation... masih berani bilang pasif?

daripada repot2 aku jelasin, mndg kalian baca lgsg aja deh:

http://www.dota-allstars.com/wiki/Passive

note: tidak semua skill pasif harus ada tulisannya de..

[Asquall]

wakak
sori gw salah tulis di atas @@
hehehehe
harusnya aktif, bukan pasif ^^

EDIT: after reading the whole, DotaWiki concludes that Reincarnation is PASSIVE, Phase Shift is PASSIVE, and Borrowed Time is PASSIVE...

[tkgsablon]

oke case clear

ternyata rencarnation passive

thx

[mr_mxyzptlk]

omong2 soal skill pasif, skill pasif apa yang jadi ga berfungsi klo kena DOOM?
wa pnah baca, motred ilang evasion dari blur ny setelah di doom.

[iAmRock]

kalau doom, semua nya hilang, passive juga, kaya Blur, Coup de Grace, Bash, Backtrack,etc

[Jin_Botol]

omong2 soal skill pasif, skill pasif apa yang jadi ga berfungsi klo kena DOOM?
wa pnah baca, motred ilang evasion dari blur ny setelah di doom.

Banyak bgt yg gak hilang sama doom

kalau doom, semua nya hilang, passive juga, kaya Blur, Coup de Grace, Bash, Backtrack,etc

sesat, tidak semua skill pasif hilang oleh Doom. backtrack juga jalan nrml kok walaupun Void lg kena Doom.

[Zephyr09]

Effects NOT disabled by Doom

However, the following are not disabled (in the case of active abilities, their effect is not disabled if used before Doom is cast):

* Lifestealer's Feast
* Lifestealer's Rage (bonus IAS and spell immunity; Doom still goes through and damages and silences Lifestealer)
* Regeneration from Items
* Eye of Skadi melee (Frost Attack)
* Blademail (damage return)
* Bloodseeker's Blood Bath
* Bloodseeker's Strygwyr's Thirst
* Enchantress's Untouchable
* Stealth Assassin's Backstab
* Spiritbreaker's Greater Bash
* Spiritbreaker's Charge of Darkness
* Skeleton King's Reincarnation
* Stygian Desolator (Corruption orb effect)
* Anti-Mage's Spell Shield
* Any other kind of bonus stats, damage, HP, mana, IAS, movement speed or regeneration
* Any buff
* Satanic's Unholy Rage (15% lifesteal)
* Twin Head Dragon's Auto Fire
* Juggernaut's Healing Ward
* Lone Druid's Synergy
* Spirit Bear's Demolish
* Phantom Lancer's Juxtapose
* Phantom Lancer's Phantom Edge
* Stone Giant's Craggy Exterior
* Stone Giant's Grow!
* Alchemist's Goblin's Greed
* Alchemist's Chemical Rage
* Moon Rider's Moon Glaive
* Dwarven Sniper's Take Aim
* Beastmaster's Beast Rage
* Bristleback's Bristleback
* Pandaren Brewmaster's Primal Split (Storm, Earth and Fire cannot be Doomed)
* Bounty Hunter's Wind Walk (backstab damage)
* Bounty Hunter's Track (vision of target)
* Dragon Knight's Dragon's Blood
* Dragon Knight's Elder Dragon Form (splash damage)
* Omniknight's Repel (still deals damage)
* Omniknight's Guardian Angel
* Tormented Soul's Diabolic Edict
* Broodmother's Spin Web (bonus move speed and HP regeneration)
* Gorgon's Mana Shield
* Treant Protector's Eyes in the Forest
* Treant Protector's Nature's Guise (not rendered visible by Doom)
* Nerubian Assassin's Spiked Carapace
* Nerubian Assassin's Vendetta (bonus damage; not slowed or rendered visible by Doom)
* Lothar's Edge (not rendered visible by Doom)
* Axe's Counter Helix
* Viper's Corrosive Skin
* Nerubian Weaver's Shukuchi (not slowed or rendered visible by Doom)
* Bone Fletcher's Wind Walk (not slowed or rendered visible by Doom)
* Spectre's Desolate
* Spectre's Spectral Dagger (collision size)
* Spectre's Dispersion
* Faceless Void's Backtrack
* Butcher's Flesh Heap
* Butcher's Rot (cannot be turned off during Doom)
* Shadow Fiend's Necromastery
* Necrolic's Gravekeeper's Cloak
* Oblivion's Decrepify
* Morphling's Replication (can still swap into Doomed image)
* Morphling's Morph (if turned on after Doom is cast, stats will continue to be swapped, but Morph cannot be turned off except through Morphling's mana reaching zero)
* Centaur Warchief's Great Fortitude
* Obsidian Destroyer's Astral Imprisonment (Intelligence exchange)
* Geomancers (Dooming one only disables that Geomancer's skills; other Geomancers can still use Geostrike, Earthbind and Poof to each other as well as the Doomed Meepo; other Geomancers can still learn new skills or new levels of skills for all Geomancers, including the Doomed Geomancer)
* Storm Spirit's Overload
* Templar Assassin's Refraction
* Templar Assassin's Meld
* Templar Assassin's Psi Blades
* Templar Assassin's Psionic Trap (can still be detonated from trap controls)
* Sacred Warrior's Inner Vitality
* Sacred Warrior's Berserker's Blood
* Bloodstone
* Auras

tapi kalo critical, kaya coup de grace, ato evasion, itu ke disable ama doom