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    untung bagian auratna masih tertutup
    Rogue cacad nan cupu

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    http://www.indogamers.com/f73/tadi_p...hrovar-207581/

    itu bukan forum laporan sathrovar?
    "Betrayer... In truth, it was I who was betrayed"
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    uda jarang main pas OL,eq m'uru ilang,,
    padahal dolo lawan pake cara yang bener sampe WO berkali2,
    skrng gara2 n00b yang pake stuck2an,semua equip ilang tanpa pandang yang bener yang salah

    oke deh,seperti kata filterfilter

    MARI KITA DAPATKAN EQUIP DENGAN CARA HARAM!
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    duh klo curhat ke chikebum gimana ya?

    kayanya ga guna

    secara anggota kerajaan pasti dibela

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaYaChan View Post
    duh klo curhat ke chikebum gimana ya?

    kayanya ga guna

    secara anggota kerajaan pasti dibela
    coba aja bro pm chikebum ...

    kasih tahu tanggapan dia yach ke saya ...

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    itu Greens juga baru tahu eq muru-nya di delete.
    banyak orang2 yg blom tahu tentang apa yg terjadi dengan char mereka.
    ini masih hari Rabu...., besok jum'at sama sabtu g bisa ngebayangin saya ribut-nya orang2 yg blom pada tahu tentang bolong-bolong-nya char mereka.

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    bugil bugil kk
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    saya ada nemu sedikit artikel game online, dalam hal ini adalah game FF, tapi mirip2 WoW

    Does SE Need a Good Reason to Ban You?

    Section 3.2 (d) of the PlayOnline Agreement:

    SEI MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ANY PLAYONLINE ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME, WITH ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE.

    It's actually bolded and all capped in the ToS. So no, they actually don't even need to a reason to ban you. Seeing as they bolded and capped this part of the agreement, I figured I posted the only other line that was bolded and capped.

    YOU DO NOT OWN YOUR ACCOUNT OR CHARACTER OR HAVE ANY PROPERTY RIGHTS TO YOUR CHARACTER OR ITS VIRTUAL ASSETS. YOU MAY NOT SELL, RENT, OR REPRODUCE YOUR CHARACTER OR ITS VIRTUAL ASSETS FOR ANY COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.

    As large of an attachment you have to your character, it is ultimately not yours. Hence you really can't complain about the loss of something that's not yours right? I did read a couple people that wanted to take legal action or something like that - this is pretty absurd to think that SE wouldn't cover this most basic issue of ownership. Not to be cold or anything but my account isn't mine and your account isn't yours. If anything, don't take your account too seriously.


    Who's "Fault" is It?

    There is a very very common argument going around the past few days regarding whether this is the players' fault or the programmers' fault. Actually a great number of players that I really like and respect have posted this remark since this bug was known for over 1.5 years and clearly people were GMing about it despite the fact many others were hiding it.

    My take on "blame" is this. It is very one-sided to completely blame SE; it is very one-sided to completely blame the players who abused this. But this is actually not the point! The player base and SE are inherently not equals. Given that we accept the ToS everytime we log on, when a player makes a mistake such as using this bug, we can be subject to punishment.
    When SE makes a programming error and creates the bug, we as players must report it immediately or face punishment. Saying who's fault it is or who's fault it is more is pointless as only the players' fault is punishable.


    *)ToS = Term of Service, itu lho pijitan tombol [Accept] pas ditanya Accept/Decline pas mau bikin char/masuk website wow
    - gmn yah yah...ToS kalau ga di-accept yah ga bisa lanjut bikin char dan ga bisa main
    - tidak ada yg bisa disalahkan, apalagi nyalahin GM / pemilik server
    - tapi berhubung kita masih lingkungan private, setidaknya kita secara baik-baik meminta pertolongan kepada GM mengenai item yang ke-delete

    sekedar nambahin ^^

    btw posting yg ini sblm nya dah gw post di thread sblm nya
    trus di delete dan ... gw juga liat total post gw berkurang 1
    (gw ada save page terakhir thread sblm nya wkwkwk)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Sh[Y]man View Post

    btw posting yg ini sblm nya dah gw post di thread sblm nya
    trus di delete dan ... gw juga liat total post gw berkurang 1
    (gw ada save page terakhir thread sblm nya wkwkwk)
    Iya itu menurut gw ... jangan terlalu dianggap serius ...

    Tapi yang paling dipermasalahkan disini adalah 'SENGAJA DI-DELETE' ..., karena sesuatu permasalahan yang sebenarnya ada jalan keluar lain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy View Post
    Iya itu menurut gw ... jangan terlalu dianggap serius ...

    Tapi yang paling dipermasalahkan disini adalah 'SENGAJA DI-DELETE' ..., karena sesuatu permasalahan yang sebenarnya ada jalan keluar lain.

    /calm

    yah...
    mungkin kak GM ada alasan yg tidak kita ketahui, baik sengaja maupun tidak sengaja
    mungkin juga kena rollback
    makanya habis posting ketik .save dulu biar ga ke rollback, huehue...

    yuuu...ke SWP lagi yu...


    Warlock : SHADOW into the aid of fire
    Lady : FIRE into the aid of shadow

    *jeger* habis itu wipe

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    dari gm yg bertanggung jawab ga ada kabar

    bisa dibilang tuh gm kabur

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    apakah sekarang saat yang tepat untuk mengatakan : "Untung eq dari muru cuma warharness of reckless fury doang"?

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    Ini kalo kasusnya kaya gini mah, asli dah, buat para GM dan admin,
    bukan maksud ngejelekkin, cuma yang bener aja donk cara penanganan kasusnya.

    Jika seandainya memang itu eq dari muru saat ini haram, ya dibuat supaya gak drop eq nya, jangan maen hapus eq dari char.

    Dan maen hapus thread komplain atas hal ini, tidak akan menyelesaikan masalah sama sekali, yang ada hanya membuat nama kalian para GM dan admin jadi buruk.

    Memakai kekuasaan dengan seenaknya tanpa kompromi

    Pantaslah jika di forum WoW ini sering terjadi keributan, karena kalian sendiri ternyata penyebab masalahnya.

    Memakai kekuasaan dengan tidak tepat alias seenaknya

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    biukannya GM bialng akan dirundingkan keputusannya..., sabar menanti dl kk, kita tunggu hasil kebijakan GM., mudah2an yg dpt dr dulu2 barang murunya bs kembali.
    dan yg mo buat keputusan bs cepet.., jgn digantung2 playernya

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    Quote Originally Posted by boulevard01 View Post
    biukannya GM bialng akan dirundingkan keputusannya..., sabar menanti dl kk, kita tunggu hasil kebijakan GM., mudah2an yg dpt dr dulu2 barang murunya bs kembali.
    dan yg mo buat keputusan bs cepet.., jgn digantung2 playernya
    kok saya g pernah liat tulisan dari GM atau yg berwenang bahwa ini bakal di rundingkan.
    yg saya tau malah langsung pukul rata, trus spawn-in muru haram itu dan kita2 disuruh farming lagee(dengan cara haram pula).

    CMIIW.

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