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    wow, pagi2 rameee

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    no no... DK Blood bwt arena.. =="..
    Burst gk sekuat pally ret... CC pun gk ad yg lama (Pally ad repent)
    DMG Fisik / reduced by armor value
    Arpen kcil , ya anggaplah lu ambil Blood Gorged ato apa namanya itu talent yg reduce armor 10%, for God sake it's only 10%...
    DK blood mudah di kiting <- diantara 3 tree DK, blood yg paling mudah di kiting
    dan yg paling penting -> NO MORTAL STRIKE

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    setw gw DK Blood ga cocok bwt PvP Arena tp klo bwt BG cocok" aja coz msh ada push dr hiler". . .
    klo bwt PvP Arena gw ga pake talent Blood coz gw pernah pake talent Blood bwt Arena alhasil << damage gede tp empuk + kalah ama hiler lawan
    klo bwt PvP Arena paling cocok yah talent Frost. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegmund View Post
    -like i said, one on one its ok... how bout team play??

    -kyknya u ga ngerti maksud statement gw.

    apa hubungannya self heal yg konstan dengan daya hancur kk? emangnya mortal strike bikin warrior bisa hidup lebih lama? atau karena DK punya self heal yg konstan jd lawan atau healer lawan tiba" mati sendiri gitu?

    my statement is about offensive side, i dont care bout defense lol


    -sekali lg, anda ga ngerti statement saya.

    maksud gw, runic power yg u dapet dr death strike / heart strike u dump kemana? dibuang buat skill apa?
    buat frost strike? lol ujung"nya juga buat rune strike / death coil. Rune strike dmgnya lumayan kalo dipake sama DK blood, but ruin your rotation, next melee swing, cancelled when using Strike type abilities, kecuali lu pake /cast !Rune Strike macro.

    sedang untuk death coil:
    40 runic power hanya untuk death coil berdamage rendah... what a waste...

    Black Ice (0/5) = increase your frost and shadow damage by 2% each, total 10%
    ga pake glyph of dark death (15% increase damage death coil)


    -clothies no problem... platers gmn kk? coba gini d, ke depan SW, cari pali holy ajak duel... 10% armor penet + str kira" 2200 + embel" laen vs pali holy 24k+ armor 750+ resilience kira" sapa yg capek duluan lol

    -offensive side not defensive. saya ga perna bilang DK blood empuk, yg saya tekankan DK blood ga bisa bunuh healer" kelas berat.

    -saya kan uda bilang dk blood sadis buat 1 lawan 1... PVP itu overall, gmn dgn BG atau arena?

    ow lupa bilang, saya pernah main blood bwt pvp, dan retalent setelah 5 mnt duel lawan powel =)

    oh ia saya jg skalian mo tanya, rating kk brapa di 3.2.2a ini? 2s dan 3s? soalny dari postingan" kk diatas kyknya yakin bgt dk blood is the best, saya ingin bukti nyata aja... tolong dijawab...
    oke gw jawab.
    1. yang lo maksud team play itu gimana? support healer? mark of blood/ improved rune tap + glyph. itu udah lumayan kali bisa heal team kita 3k-5k/ rune tap

    2. kalo masalah offensive, damage death strike jauh lebih besar daripada mortal strike, sudden doom, dan kalo DRW ga eror, itu fatal.

    3. damage death coil juga ngaruh dari str kali. gw kalo lagi pvp set/ self buffed death coil gw bisa 2k. itu juga udah lumayan karena gw biasa dump runic gw di AMS/ Icebound Fortitude.

    4. kalo masalah lawan pally holy, gw dengan modal Hysteria, Strangulate, sama Mind Freeze. kk gabisa? btw, gw juga gabisa lawan powel -..- tp kalo lagi unholy bisa.

    5. DK blood bisa2 aja bunuh healer kelas berat, tp blom tentu pally holy.

    maksud gw, DK Blood itu bagus, tapi its not all that lah. stiap talent tree ada kelebihan sama kekuranganya. Rating gw 2v2 terakir kalo ga salah 1210 sama Iamnobody (Priest). 3v3 kalo ga salah terakir ol masih 1100an sama Beyongodlike (Warrior) Allyceceliu (Pally Holy).

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    tiap class dengan talentnya masing2 bisa buat PvP,,
    DK blood knpa gak bisa arena ? dah pernah ngerasain duel ama dk blood ? dah ketauan kan sakitnya kalo DS
    arpen ? blood gorged plus dari gear cukup memadai,, apalagi klo emang niat ya pke gear pve aja kek warrior2,,
    warrior arpennya darimana? dari talent cuma ada 1 itupun klo pke mace, dan juga stancenya,,
    DK itu campuran magic ama physique, arpen seadanya spell penet seperlunya,,

    soal lawan healer ? apa di arena itu healer semua ?
    DK blood bisa urus dpsnya sementara rekannya urus healernya,, atau gimana lah sesuai taktik masing2,,
    buat nahan dps lawan blood bisa dipercaya IBF,AMS,RT,DS apa gak maknyus tuh ?
    contoh simple: dgan banyaknya skill self heal kek gitu kalo si DK partner ama priest, si priest bisa fokus ngemanaburn lawan dlu,, dgan dijaga oleh si DK (DG, STrangulate, HS berglyph, dll)
    jadi masih gak guna ?

    gak perlu cuma berteori, smua ditentukan ama skill+strategi...
    klo mw cuman berteori doang mah smua class bisa dicari2in alasan biar bisa disebut sebagai class yg ga cocok arena

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    ^yeah rite,there's no such class that owned every class in one on one match

    intinya sih kalo 1 on 1 ga akan ada class yang balance/imbang (asumsi playskill & gear sama), bakalan selalu ada counterclass

    makanya ga ada arena 1v1..

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    wakakakaka arena 1vs1. yang dibilang mawanmawan bener tuh. gw milih ngambil priest sbagai partner 2v2 karena self heal konstant gw bisa bikin healer gw ga terlalu takut darah gw bocor, jadi dia bisa fokus ke mana burn healer lawan.

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    Imo pris dk blood kurang bgs di arena,soalnya cc dk kurang bnyk lain ama rogu/mage yg bisa bantu cc dps yg nabok pris,klo dk blood? seinget gw ccnya cmn mf sama strang
    kalo pengalaman gw maen dk blood enak ama paly ret, burst skt cc ketutup paly ada rep&HOJ yg useful buat finishing blum dtambah strang kelar itu cast di cancel sama mf gw rasa itu ckp bwt nahan healer mpe dpsnya mati
    for info pas patch 3.1.3 gw pke kombo ini tembus 1600 loh
    segitu dk gw blom epic ungu smua masi ada yg biru kalo gk salah 2 barang
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    ^Apakah Death Grip DK ga d anggap sebagai CC buat cancel Casting dan Confuse Player ?!

    It`s Usefull !
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    nah itu dia sebenarnya kelemahan utama DK Blood gak ada CC T_T

    p.s: MF ama strang itu bukan CC kali,, MF->interupt Strang->silence dengan cd setahun akwakwkak

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawanmawan View Post
    nah itu dia sebenarnya kelemahan utama DK Blood gak ada CC T_T

    p.s: MF ama strang itu bukan CC kali,, MF->interupt Strang->silence dengan cd setahun akwakwkak
    tapi kan skrg Death Grip dah jalan hauhauha

    jadi MF Strangulate masih CD bisa pake DG haha

    terkadang DG suka lupa d pake >.<
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    dulu gw pas 3.1.3 arena 2v2nya sama ret pally temen net gw namanya Lingz. tembus ampe 1500an lebih. hysteria kasih ke ret pallynya, trus suruh langsung avengin wrath dah.. gw tarik healer musuh jauh2, trus ret pallynya bantai dpsnya. nice bgt itu

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    Quote Originally Posted by ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮ View Post
    emg DK blood CRIT nya jarang di banding DK Unholy?
    kl tanya unholy jgn tanya gw deh, gw sampe char gw delete ga pernah smpe suka bgt main unholy
    tp frost dibanding blood jauh deh seringan frost critnya
    soalnya frost kan ada:
    -annihilation: +3% crit chance with all spells
    -killing machine: kalo proc, icy touch, howling blast, and frost strike 100% pasti crit. itu colok rank 1 aja udh sering keluarnya
    -deathchill: when activated, gives 100% crit chance to obliterate, howling blast, icy touch, and frost strike
    -rime: increase critical chance of obliterate and icy touch by 15% AT ALL TIMES

    frost strike 5000 x 3 sapa si yg ga mau? lol

    tp jgn remehin dk blood jg. gw ketemu dk blood ekuip udh jadi ga pernah berani pasang blood presence kl dia lg blood presence. dalem coy tembusnya


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    intinya DK blood tu maen burst, DK unholy/frost maen kitting
    CMIIW

    diantar para DK gw lebih cepat kalah dgn DK Blood, damage na sakit gilak

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    Quote Originally Posted by marchorizon View Post
    kl tanya unholy jgn tanya gw deh, gw sampe char gw delete ga pernah smpe suka bgt main unholy
    tp frost dibanding blood jauh deh seringan frost critnya
    soalnya frost kan ada:
    -annihilation: +3% crit chance with all spells
    -killing machine: kalo proc, icy touch, howling blast, and frost strike 100% pasti crit. itu colok rank 1 aja udh sering keluarnya
    -deathchill: when activated, gives 100% crit chance to obliterate, howling blast, icy touch, and frost strike
    -rime: increase critical chance of obliterate and icy touch by 15% AT ALL TIMES

    frost strike 5000 x 3 sapa si yg ga mau? lol

    tp jgn remehin dk blood jg. gw ketemu dk blood ekuip udh jadi ga pernah berani pasang blood presence kl dia lg blood presence. dalem coy tembusnya
    ^
    ^
    gw setuju tuh . . .
    - annihilation: +3% crit chance with all spells
    - killing machine: kalo proc, icy touch, howling blast, and frost strike 100% pasti crit
    - deathchill: when activated, gives 100% crit chance to obliterate, howling blast, icy touch, and frost strike
    - frost strike 5000 x 3
    ++ hungering cold bwt nahan hiler lawan heal DPS nya or bantu partner hiler DK nya d kejer DPS lawan (terutama mage frost)

    emg DK Blood damage gede tp klo ketemu pally protect or mage frost jg empuk d hajar, atit skill mage frost ^^

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