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    Quote Originally Posted by vi_nes View Post
    haah hit rating uda 400 tp msh miss??
    itu hit rating bwt pvp ato pve??
    gw aja hit rating pve cm 275 jarang miss koq. . .
    DK DPS frost gw threat nya cepet bgt naek nya karna jarang miss mk nya gw klo raid butuh TB pengalaman n GG threat nya. . .
    DK frost klo isa ksh haste dikit bwt increased attack speed with spell coz DK frost pake dual wield lbh bnyk pake skill spell ketimbang 2hand weapon. . .
    str ama crit itu kudu wajib bwt DK klo ada sisa yah arpen expertise ato agi. . .
    itu talent [Killing Machine] cukup ambil 1 aja coz msh bug, 1 aja uda sering kluar. . .
    o iya Immature tdi ToC 25H nya gmn?? jdi ga tuh, sorry gw hrs anterin ce gw balik dl wkwkwk
    hit rating untuk DK frost di ampm kurang butuh kyanya, soalnya ga terlalu ngaruh.. hit gw 300an sama 400an sama aja kyanya
    btw, klo tretnya ga mau kgedean, ambil subversion nya pentokin, tdnya jg tret gw gede bgd, pas ambil ini mentok jd kcil bgd, berasa koq, jd bs allout, ga perlu nahan"
    btw, KM mksd bug nya gmn sih? krn terlalu sering kluar atau gmn?
    tp build" yg d saranin emang cm ambil 1 kan... mungkin krn emang 1 aja uda sering kluar

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    Quote Originally Posted by MostSinZ View Post
    hmm

    cuman saran...Talent Unholy

    Pke unholy Presence .. Duel 3 2 1 HoW, Blood Tap, langsung AMS hajar dia blink Death Grip langsung Strangulate ... cepet cari Runic 60 langung Gargoyle..

    klo kena Freeze AMZ aja, biarin maen range...

    taro DND di tempat di Casting,,,cari Runic buat Death Coil

    semoga bermanfaat hehe
    wew situ lbh keren bs pake unholy presence lwnny. klo sy ga bs tahan n musti pake frost presence klo duel sm mage n caster lainny but talen unholy. kdg frost mage terasa skt jg. sy ga tw nm2 skill mage, cm tw bentukny aj, mage...dy bs blink, imun, puny absorb demeg, miror, puny pet, ngilang, reset skill, bs regen chaneling, n smuany serba lambat lwnny sampe ke pet2 dk qt jg lambat nempelny. awl2 musti mecahin absorbny bs dg CoI n taruh DND d bwh kakiny n jgn lupa suruh pet dk qt jg nyerang. jgn lupa sebelum fight pasang buff HoW biar demeg frost fever n DND qt nambah n udh mendekati IC segera buff blood tap biar dpt runic n death rune. sewaktu dy kena CoI dan DND dy ngeblink tarik pake death grip n CoI lg dr death rune, klo ga ngelag, ni mage kan sempat tertempel n mgkn sempet dpt melee range buat PS lalu klo sempet lg DS. klo dy ga ngeblink tp trinket brusaha menjauh dr dnd, CoI lg dr death rune biar ga bs menjauh dr dnd n pet qt bs lbh mudah mendekati n menghajarny sembari qt jg brusaha mendekatiny. keuntungan unholy demeg DND lbh gede, CD DnD n death grip lbh cepet, demeg spell lainny n desease lbh gede. n DK qt puny ERW buat reset rune. counter polyny yg casting time dg lichborne, stunny dg icebound, klo dy miror n sempet dpt melee range semprot pestilence sampe k miror e biar tu miror mati sendiri ma desease dk qt n trs keep desease n then DS buat regen hp. klo dy imun, dk qt first aid, first aid wae smbl nggu imun dy selese. wah klo dijabarin pjg ni kk ampe duel selese n teori blm tentu bs dipraktekkan xD sy msh br main dk n lg main2 dk d server pvp sblh, dk class plg cool mnrt saya (bkn yg plg imba mksdny)

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    hit rating gausa gede2 lah mau dual wield jg. yg namanya hard cap ga bakal kekejer (melee swing ga miss sama sekali). yg penting soft cap 8%, expertise 23-25 (5.75-6.5% kl ga salah (capnya 6.5% cmiiw, gada soft gada hard, berlaku buat skill dan melee swing)) supaya skill gada yg miss/dodged/parried. liat aja itu si landsoul, warrior, yg notabenenya ngeskill harus dapet rage dr melee swing dulu, hit ratingnya ga smpe 200 (+talent 3% juga tpnya), DPS bisa belasan K. DK harusnya mah lebih enak, runic power kan dr skill jg, bukan melee swing
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    btw, di server pvp sblh yg patch 3.3.5, strike dk klo di-parry, di dodge, miss, bahkan di-immune bulatan runeny ga kepake, dan saya yakin sy ga slh liat. brrti dk tmbh cool d patch 3.3.5 n slanjutnya

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    Default Frost strike

    kk mo tanya ttg frost strike
    gw liat di frost strike tulisannya gini :
    "Instantly strike an enemy, causing 60%-61% weapon damage plus 105 as frost damage",
    ada weapon damage ada frost damage
    IMHO, bagus klo dicolok spellpen+arpen
    CMIIW
    baru nyoba dk soalnya

    btw salam kenal ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverside View Post
    kk mo tanya ttg frost strike
    gw liat di frost strike tulisannya gini :
    "Instantly strike an enemy, causing 60%-61% weapon damage plus 105 as frost damage",
    ada weapon damage ada frost damage
    IMHO, bagus klo dicolok spellpen+arpen
    CMIIW
    baru nyoba dk soalnya

    btw salam kenal ^^
    IMO, Spel Pen aja
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    Quote Originally Posted by marchorizon View Post
    hit rating gausa gede2 lah mau dual wield jg. yg namanya hard cap ga bakal kekejer (melee swing ga miss sama sekali). yg penting soft cap 8%, expertise 23-25 (5.75-6.5% kl ga salah (capnya 6.5% cmiiw, gada soft gada hard, berlaku buat skill dan melee swing)) supaya skill gada yg miss/dodged/parried. liat aja itu si landsoul, warrior, yg notabenenya ngeskill harus dapet rage dr melee swing dulu, hit ratingnya ga smpe 200 (+talent 3% juga tpnya), DPS bisa belasan K. DK harusnya mah lebih enak, runic power kan dr skill jg, bukan melee swing
    malahan kalau dk hit ratingnya ga gede susah cari dps an nya , kalau dari skill atau runic power si itu uda ada damage pasti , soalnya mukulnya cepetnya DK frost sama kaya mukulnya rogue , jadi sayang aja kalau hit rating ga gede yang ada miss miss doang ke bossnya, itu kan si landsoul warrior bukan dk kaks

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    gwhit rating 389 expertise 20 gapernah miss kok

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    Quote Originally Posted by papepape View Post
    gwhit rating 389 expertise 20 gapernah miss kok
    boong amat, hit cap dual wild 28% he, cmiiw

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    ada pro kontranya jg sih. stelah dipikir2 bener jg sih kata kk mikeportnoy. makin cepet melee swing, makin pengen lu gebuk itu momon/bos ga pake miss, makanya warrior2 fury titan's grip yg base atk speednya udh lama jd ga gt minat ngejar hard cap (ga bakalan kekejer jg orang 28% awkkaw).

    dulu awalnya gw jg gt. hit rating pengennya 300++, kl bisa smpe 400 malah. tp setelah berkunjung ke forum2 luar, liat comment2 wowhead, liat armorynya landsoul, bastrel, dkknya, gw jd ngeh jg kenapa cm ngincer soft cap doang mereka:

    1. hard cap ga bakal kena
    2. drpd encan/gem/gear stats dipake buat hit hit hit dan hit, mending di alokasikan untuk kebutuhan lain. contoh itu idola gw landsoul (US) sama bastrel (EU), mereka hit ratingnya ngepas bgt sekitar soft cap (termasuk talent jg), sekitar 8%, sisanya ARPEN ARPEN DAN ARPEN (kl udh over arpen ditambah buat stats lain). alhasil gausa pake macem grimtod grimtodan, arpennya 95-100% NO BUFF.
    3. PENDAPAT gw:
    warrior nge skill butuh rage.
    rage di generate dr melee swing.
    dengan hit rating pas2an di soft cap, dps fury warrior di ICC bisa belasan K di beberapa kondisi/boss
    "tp kan dk frost ada icy talons kk, jd lebih enak kalo swingnya KENA SEMUA". warrior fury jg ada flurry kok.

    so soft-capped is enough for us fury warriors

    kalo buat dk, ya gw masi asumsi/berpendapat aja (soalnya gw jg dulu main dk kok kaks, tp coba ToT cm bntr, bis itu delete char soalnya awkawk T_T)
    kalau warrior soft-capped macam saya (ex-romer) atau landsoul atau bastrel yg kira2 1/4 - 1/5 kali swing miss, dpsnya bisa kek gitu ('dpsnya kek gitu' buat landsoul bastrel aja, romer gausa masukin, cups soalnya hehe), dan kita pake RAGE loh, swing ga kena= no rage, tunggu next swing berharap ga missing streak<----delete char aja awkkaw. DK nge skill pake rune= cooldownnya ga dipengaruhi sm gear/talent/stats apapun, dan runic power yg dapetnya dari SKILL (orang sono bilangnya special attacks) bukan MELEE SWING, wah itu harusnya less worried about hit rating dong ya dibandingin kita2 fury warrior? coba dibaca baik2 deh ini masuk akal kok.

    tp saya jg ga bilang harus kek gini gausa kek gitu. semua terserah anda, hanya memberi opini/masukan



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    white demeg so pasti miss2, secara cap musti 20-an% buat dual n ini ssh bgt dicapai. klo ad gear nmbh stat hit rating ya sukur, klo ga ad ya minimal 8% g mslh. white demeg miss2 sante aj. ato ad yg ga tenang klo white demeg e miss2? haha....

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    hy...
    w main WOW us server cairne,,,
    DK lvl 80 gear score 5.5k...
    tallent blood(dps) and of tallent unholy(PvP)
    tittel=king slayer.
    ada yg main WOW us dsni????

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    talent frosh gk da dps'a...
    kalau wat tank baru cihuy....
    haste'a dia gede tpi gk da damege...
    klo mau gede tallent frosh u gabung ma blood...
    w shi lebih seneng pke blood dri combo gampang,,,
    1.icy touch
    2.plague strike
    3.heart strike 2x
    4.death strike
    5.death coil
    6.death strike
    7.heart strike7x
    8.dancing run weapon

    tuh combo wat blood moga bermanfaat

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    Quote Originally Posted by diazzzoldick View Post
    talent frosh gk da dps'a...
    kalau wat tank baru cihuy....
    haste'a dia gede tpi gk da damege...
    klo mau gede tallent frosh u gabung ma blood...
    w shi lebih seneng pke blood dri combo gampang,,,
    1.icy touch
    2.plague strike
    3.heart strike 2x
    4.death strike
    5.death coil
    6.death strike
    7.heart strike7x
    8.dancing run weapon

    tuh combo wat blood moga bermanfaat
    sayang nya di ampm, dancing rune weapon damage nya imut2
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    frost DK ngincer hit karena tiap melee swingnya trigger necrosis ama BCB, secara frost pasti ngambil sub UH klo mw dps gede

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