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    Quote Originally Posted by aliefiona View Post
    mau tanya nih sama yang udah sesepuh di ampm, ada kaitannya dengan DK khususnya Tanking spec.

    1. sebenernya defense (bukan defense rating) itu brapa sih soft-cap nya untuk ampm? setau saya pengalaman dr main server inter 535 untuk tanking 5m Heroics dan 540 untuk raid tanking.
    *beberapa sumber tertulis yang mendukung selain pengalam pribadi saya:

    Q u o t e:
    1. There's no such thing as a defense cap
    2. 490 was required at level 70 to stay uncrittable. That was 5.6% crit reduction.
    3. 540 is required at level 80 to stay uncrittable. That is 5.6% crit reduction.
    4. No matter what level you are, you need 5.6% crit reduction.
    5. The crit reduction is displayed when you hover over your defense amount.
    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...93783580&sid=1


    Note that defense continues to be a valuable stat past its "cap," unlike hit rating or expertise, because it still increases chances to dodge, block, parry and be missed. Reaching the soft cap of 540 defense skill (not rating) is considered mandatory for tanking more difficult content, as a single critical hit from a boss can prove fatal.
    http://www.wowwiki.com/Defense

    Defense skill minimum to be uncrittable by raid bosses is 540 at level 80, and 535 for heroics. Resilience can also help eliminate crit chance, but this is not recommended as unlike defense, resilience provides no avoidance.
    http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_PvE_guide

    2. saya sendiri sekarang ada di 600 def rating, semua dari gear + weap + weapon rune. semua slot gem saya pasang stam. dan karena ini juga banyak yang *maaf* 'nyela' : "stam semua? bocor dong!" atau "***** semua dicolok stam, mending parry lah ato dodge" dsb dsb. saya pernah tanya sama healer guild, apa bener saya bocor? tapi kata mereka ga.

    3. ini menarik:

    Strength is a death knight's priority stat for DPS, and the key threat stat for tanking, as it increases attack power and parry rating. 4 STR = 1 parry rating. Although their item budget cost is the same, one point of strength is preferable to two points of attack power because several buffs and talents increase strength directly by a percentage.

    Dodge and Parry are important for tanking. Because of Diminishing returns and the "free" Strength to Parry conversion, no death knight should ever gem for parry.

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_PvE_guide

    nah karena itu dulu saya sempet terpikir untuk masukin slot gem ke armor + senjata (kalo ada) sama gem Sovereign Dreadstone (10 strength + 15 stamina), atau malah ekstrimnya saya pernah mikir pasang Bold Cardinal Ruby (20 Strength) sekalian karena di konten ICC dodge di nerf karena debuff "Chill of the Throne" atau apalah namanya saya lupa *maaf*

    mohon pendapatnya ya dari yang udah sesepuh atau mungkin lebih berpengalaman di server ampm. karena bukannya ga seneng dicela ato di kritik waktu di PuG (Pick up Group) Raid atau dungeon, cuma mungkin memang saya nya aja yg kurang pengalaman main di server ampm

    ini saya bikin bukan untuk membanding2kan server inter sama server ampm ya, (*ambil langkah seribu takut di flame masa >.<*) cuma mau minta nasihat dan pendapat aja karena saya sadar kalau di setiap server punya kebijakan dan 'itungan2'-nya sendiri yang unik terimakasih sebelumnya dan maaf mengganggu sama posting yang panjang ini.

    -regards-
    betul itu, sebelum cataclysm, masih ada def rating. minimal 540 to stay uncrittable sm mobs/boss
    buat yg stacking stamina, itu yg penting def 540in aja. jgn stack stamina kl def blm 540.
    mslh pasang gem str buat tb dk, memang bener str nambah parry buat dk, tp ga sebesar kl pake gem parry langsung. IMO karena kita mau ngetank bukan mau DPS, lebih baik pasang gem parry langsung.

    sori kl ada yg kurang hehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by aliefiona View Post
    mau tanya nih sama yang udah sesepuh di ampm, ada kaitannya dengan DK khususnya Tanking spec.

    1. sebenernya defense (bukan defense rating) itu brapa sih soft-cap nya untuk ampm? setau saya pengalaman dr main server inter 535 untuk tanking 5m Heroics dan 540 untuk raid tanking.
    *beberapa sumber tertulis yang mendukung selain pengalam pribadi saya:

    Q u o t e:
    1. There's no such thing as a defense cap
    2. 490 was required at level 70 to stay uncrittable. That was 5.6% crit reduction.
    3. 540 is required at level 80 to stay uncrittable. That is 5.6% crit reduction.
    4. No matter what level you are, you need 5.6% crit reduction.
    5. The crit reduction is displayed when you hover over your defense amount.
    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...93783580&sid=1


    Note that defense continues to be a valuable stat past its "cap," unlike hit rating or expertise, because it still increases chances to dodge, block, parry and be missed. Reaching the soft cap of 540 defense skill (not rating) is considered mandatory for tanking more difficult content, as a single critical hit from a boss can prove fatal.
    http://www.wowwiki.com/Defense

    Defense skill minimum to be uncrittable by raid bosses is 540 at level 80, and 535 for heroics. Resilience can also help eliminate crit chance, but this is not recommended as unlike defense, resilience provides no avoidance.
    http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_PvE_guide

    2. saya sendiri sekarang ada di 600 def rating, semua dari gear + weap + weapon rune. semua slot gem saya pasang stam. dan karena ini juga banyak yang *maaf* 'nyela' : "stam semua? bocor dong!" atau "***** semua dicolok stam, mending parry lah ato dodge" dsb dsb. saya pernah tanya sama healer guild, apa bener saya bocor? tapi kata mereka ga.

    3. ini menarik:

    Strength is a death knight's priority stat for DPS, and the key threat stat for tanking, as it increases attack power and parry rating. 4 STR = 1 parry rating. Although their item budget cost is the same, one point of strength is preferable to two points of attack power because several buffs and talents increase strength directly by a percentage.

    Dodge and Parry are important for tanking. Because of Diminishing returns and the "free" Strength to Parry conversion, no death knight should ever gem for parry.

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_PvE_guide

    nah karena itu dulu saya sempet terpikir untuk masukin slot gem ke armor + senjata (kalo ada) sama gem Sovereign Dreadstone (10 strength + 15 stamina), atau malah ekstrimnya saya pernah mikir pasang Bold Cardinal Ruby (20 Strength) sekalian karena di konten ICC dodge di nerf karena debuff "Chill of the Throne" atau apalah namanya saya lupa *maaf*

    mohon pendapatnya ya dari yang udah sesepuh atau mungkin lebih berpengalaman di server ampm. karena bukannya ga seneng dicela ato di kritik waktu di PuG (Pick up Group) Raid atau dungeon, cuma mungkin memang saya nya aja yg kurang pengalaman main di server ampm

    ini saya bikin bukan untuk membanding2kan server inter sama server ampm ya, (*ambil langkah seribu takut di flame masa >.<*) cuma mau minta nasihat dan pendapat aja karena saya sadar kalau di setiap server punya kebijakan dan 'itungan2'-nya sendiri yang unik terimakasih sebelumnya dan maaf mengganggu sama posting yang panjang ini.

    -regards-
    buat ICC ->> STAM FTW
    cuekin aj yg bilang full stam itu kerupuk,
    base avoidance DK dah gede kok, terlebih kita ada yg convert str ke parry, dan di armor aja dah ada str gede
    kcuali mw variasi dkit ya, colok aja sesuai warna buat bonus, gemnya sesuai selera aja
    colok strength vs parry rating klo buat di ampm masih bgusan colok parry rating, DR gak jalan lol
    endgame content favor EH(efective health) more than avoidance

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    makasi buat reply-nya kalo ada pendapat susulan msh ditunggu ^-^

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    buat para sesepuh DK, minta tips nya dong buat ngalahin shadow priest sama frost mage di 2v2 @_@
    thx before..

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    sorry dopost -_-'

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    mage?! shadow pris?! gunakan berbagai macam magic resist anda dengan tepat.. nanti jg menang..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MozilaFrozenFox View Post
    buat para sesepuh DK, minta tips nya dong buat ngalahin shadow priest sama frost mage di 2v2 @_@
    thx before..
    hmm sekedar share...gunakan Anti Magic Shell dengan pas Timing

    jgn sampe kmu kena Freeze / Slow dluan ama Mage..Soalnya klo ketemu Comp ini, DK pasti d incer dlu >.<

    jadi awal2...klo langsung burst, coba pake CoI + Blood Tap langsung apke AMS...supaya kmu bisa full hit
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    ato bisa juga mabil talent biar CoI langsung generate 20RP. jadi bisa langsung AMS

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    Quote Originally Posted by MozilaFrozenFox View Post
    buat para sesepuh DK, minta tips nya dong buat ngalahin shadow priest sama frost mage di 2v2 @_@
    thx before..
    kalo ama shaman/priest enak, pop AMS purge/dispel tu priest gibas ampe rata,
    klo healernya non dispeller, kudu siap maen lama, pop AMS tiap cd gantian ama freedom klo breng pally, uber magenya, kuras mananya and go for kill <--maen lama klo mw yg pasti2
    double dps go for priest, nguber mage paling di root di tempat terus

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    minta talent frost DPS favorit dong

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    min darah tank DK baik MT atw OT di ICC brp yak (no buff) ? trus mending pake dual weapon apa two hand ?
    bingung baca web mana buat tanking soalnya dah pada cataclysm....
    mohonbantuannya....

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    wandering plague sama corpse explo guna ga sih di arena 3 3 di tim PHD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burakh View Post
    min darah tank DK baik MT atw OT di ICC brp yak (no buff) ? trus mending pake dual weapon apa two hand ?
    bingung baca web mana buat tanking soalnya dah pada cataclysm....
    mohonbantuannya....
    hmm klo d AMPM rata" DK tanking banyak yg Hpnya 44k ++ tapi klo saya sendiri baru 41k ... dan enk klo pake Two Hand Weapon
    Quote Originally Posted by bonek_tampan View Post
    wandering plague sama corpse explo guna ga sih di arena 3 3 di tim PHD?

    yap kepake..itu WP sebelumnya kita sebarin dieases dlu pake pestilence...
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    44k itu + buff ICC nya yh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MostSinZ View Post
    hmm klo d AMPM rata" DK tanking banyak yg Hpnya 44k ++ tapi klo saya sendiri baru 41k ... dan enk klo pake Two Hand Weapon



    yap kepake..itu WP sebelumnya kita sebarin dieases dlu pake pestilence...
    ak masih bingung sih apa WP itu worthed buat diambil, coz skrg ni aku ambil COTG 2/2, IUP 2/2, WP 1/3, CE 1/1, Impurity 1/5
    perbedaan damage karena impurity diambil 1 sih ga gitu kerasa yah buatku....
    cuman skrg mulai berpikir apa WP sama CE itu worthed ga bwat diambil coz CE ada casting time dan gmpg banget dihindarinnya, WP damagenya rasanya kurang kerasa.... trus kalo aku ambil 3/5 impurity kira" bakal begitu kerasa ga yah ke damageku
    mohon bantuan para suhu dong

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