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    hmm itu toughness ga di ambil y, UHnya cmn buat ambil AMZ
    btw tentang AMZ
    itu kan tulisannya mengurangi damage 75%, last until absorb xxx damage
    jadi misal max absorbnya 10k, terus ada damage magic 20k
    apakah:
    1) reduce 75% damagenya, player kena 5k damage, AMZ masih tersisa 5k buat absorb,
    2) reduce 75% damagenya, player kena 5k damage, AMZ ilang karena damagenya yg di absorb lebih dari 10k (absorb 15k),
    3) reduce 75% damagenya, player kena 5k damage, AMZ ilang karena damagenya yg di absorb lebih dari 10k (absorb 20k alias damage awal), atau
    4) reduce 75% damage tapi terbatas oleh maxnya, jadi player kena 10k damage, AMZ ilang
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    Quote Originally Posted by falcond. View Post
    wah blum pernah nyoba gw, di server luar frost ngetrend buat pvp
    buat gem gw g tau
    ane Lg nyoba si bang .
    Lmayan keras pake frost bwat BG or arena ,,
    tp masih belum PD gemming nya . -____-
    butuh pncerahan plisss ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanvial View Post
    hmm itu toughness ga di ambil y, UHnya cmn buat ambil AMZ
    btw tentang AMZ
    itu kan tulisannya mengurangi damage 75%, last until absorb xxx damage
    jadi misal max absorbnya 10k, terus ada damage magic 20k
    apakah:
    1) reduce 75% damagenya, player kena 5k damage, AMZ masih tersisa 5k buat absorb,
    2) reduce 75% damagenya, player kena 5k damage, AMZ ilang karena damagenya yg di absorb lebih dari 10k (absorb 15k),
    3) reduce 75% damagenya, player kena 5k damage, AMZ ilang karena damagenya yg di absorb lebih dari 10k (absorb 20k alias damage awal), atau
    4) reduce 75% damage tapi terbatas oleh maxnya, jadi player kena 10k damage, AMZ ilang
    sepengalaman saya pvp pake AMZ (tuh talent bukan talent TB punya gua) damage caster geli di awal lalu kembali normal ke gua tapi AMZ ngak ilang. nilai x di AMZ itu 10k+2*AP DK.
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    gilang bantuin talent gw masih bingung neh

    nih link buat talent + glyph

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcond. View Post
    gilang bantuin talent gw masih bingung neh

    nih link buat talent + glyph
    talent sembarangan yang sedang gua pake http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...a,8Yp-3e,11685
    mungkin nanti kedepannya ada yang gua ubah. tapi overall itu talent gua pake sekarang.

    NB: rotasi TB DK ngak ada, tapi pembukaan IT-IT-blood Tap-IT seterusnya tergantung kreatifitas dan skill mana yang nyala

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    Quote Originally Posted by mampoy View Post
    Bang DK frost bgus gk dpake PVP ??
    klo iya colokan Gem nya bagusan d colok apa ya ??
    talent gw deep frost PVP, dr gw maen di server official ampe skrg, talent gw frost trs hahaha

    cb cek armory gw aja ( siegfriedn ), memang bukan yg terbaik, tp so far, gw enjoy2 aja dgn talent itu, burst damage jg gede..

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    pvp/pve(dps & tb) gw pake UH...

    walopun ga setebel frost

    emang talen2nya DK sifatnya universal amat yak...

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    siegfriedn itu frost 2h yak?
    sekali make fs dmgnya keluar berapa klo di arena?

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    nyambung 2 page sebelumnya soal resistance
    dari percobaan, di AMPM udah ngikut WoTLK yg random resistnya per 10%
    jadi udah bukan itungan BC lagi yg msh per 25% resistnya

    dari catatan combat log 2x encounter sindragosa
    %resist = resist/(Damage+Absorb+Resist)
    frost aura ga msk, kebanyakan soalnya... tapi ada 2 tau 3 yg resistnya 70%

    pembulatan % ke terdekat
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    Frost resist 535			
    			
    Frost Breath			
    Damage	Absorb	Resist	%resist
    17299	0	17298	50%
    13578	0	20367	60%
    18409	0	12272	40%
    16456	0	16455	50%
    13612	0	20421	60%
    12673	0	19009	60%
    17081	0	17081	50%
    12768	226	19491	60%
    20007	0	13338	40%
    6072	0	6072	50%
    18034	0	18033	50%
    32585	0	32585	50%
    25250	6312	47343	60%
    13943	0	20913	60%
    18036	4920	34434	60%
    20277	3555	35747	60%
    19563	0	19563	50%
    			
    			
    Blistering Cold			
    Damage	Absorb	Resist	%resist
    6925	4555	17220	60%
    6186	534	4480	40%
    17106	114	11480	40%
    5594	1126	4480	40%
    			
    			
    Average Resist		52%
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    DK Tank kebanyakan kombinasi frost-blood itu gara2 bugnya yg mendukung bgt
    stack dari scent of blood AMPM(ya cuma perlu naekin 1) gk bakal abis2
    dikombinasiin sama dual wield yg udah jelas swingnya lbih cpet dari 2hand ( ya dan disinilah asalnya DK infinite rune, fast swing + infinite stack scent blood)

    more white swing = more rune
    more rune = more rune strike ,
    more white swing = more rune strike (rune strike active dari melee swing) ,
    more rune strike = more threat
    rune strike + AMPM's Threat of Tassar = more threat ,
    death strike + AMPM's Threat of Tassar = more health gain

    dan talent yg memungkinkan dual wield sambil tetap bsa ambil scent of blood = Frost Blood

    rune disini yg gw maksud runic power bkn UH,Blood,Frost Rune

    cara kasar threatingnya cukup pake weapon yg swing time nya minim di off hand, frost strike gk guna (cuma kepake saat rune strike gk proc),
    rune pake bwt rune strike aj + spam icy touch pas kelebihan death rune, dan sisanya gw yakin kalian paling pro dalam hal ini
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    Quote Originally Posted by gil4ng_demonic View Post
    talent sembarangan yang sedang gua pake http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...a,8Yp-3e,11685
    mungkin nanti kedepannya ada yang gua ubah. tapi overall itu talent gua pake sekarang.

    NB: rotasi TB DK ngak ada, tapi pembukaan IT-IT-blood Tap-IT seterusnya tergantung kreatifitas dan skill mana yang nyala
    brb cek dan nyobain

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    eh, klo DK TB skill PS gk di pake kan y ???

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    kk maa newbie mau tanya klo PVe Dps bagus ambil talen apa????
    N bisa dikasih gambaran Talent ama glyps nya gak????

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    biasa ny sih talent pvp dps kebanyakan pke UH atau frost
    tp seperti ny UH dps paling tinggi

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Caladbolg View Post
    DK Tank kebanyakan kombinasi frost-blood itu gara2 bugnya yg mendukung bgt
    stack dari scent of blood AMPM(ya cuma perlu naekin 1) gk bakal abis2
    dikombinasiin sama dual wield yg udah jelas swingnya lbih cpet dari 2hand ( ya dan disinilah asalnya DK infinite rune, fast swing + infinite stack scent blood)

    more white swing = more rune
    more rune = more rune strike ,
    more white swing = more rune strike (rune strike active dari melee swing) ,
    more rune strike = more threat
    rune strike + AMPM's Threat of Tassar = more threat ,
    death strike + AMPM's Threat of Tassar = more health gain

    dan talent yg memungkinkan dual wield sambil tetap bsa ambil scent of blood = Frost Blood

    rune disini yg gw maksud runic power bkn UH,Blood,Frost Rune

    cara kasar threatingnya cukup pake weapon yg swing time nya minim di off hand, frost strike gk guna (cuma kepake saat rune strike gk proc),
    rune pake bwt rune strike aj + spam icy touch pas kelebihan death rune, dan sisanya gw yakin kalian paling pro dalam hal ini
    hmm barusan ta cek, scent of blood bener kok
    jadi keluar kadang2 pas diserang, terus di melee hit berikutnya buffnya ilang
    jadi ga permanen ada buff scent of bloodnya


    btw blood tap itu kerjanya seperti apa sih harusnya?
    a pikir klo blood rune cooldown, terus di pake Blood tap jadi ilang cd nya dan berubah jadi death rune
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