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    saya ikut posting ah

    klo menurut saya draft yg bagus tuh
    ursa-medusa-lich-spec-kunka(hero br ini cepet bgt jadinya, gw maen lv 16 selalu jadi BF 2 biji, domi PT, ama hyperstone)

    masalah line tgh lich solo biar klo main cepet bisa ngeladenin
    bwh untuk defense isi pake spec ama kunka(skill nya area smua)
    atas buat offense isi ursa medusa lv 6 ada purge pasti mati lwnnya (skill yg main disamakan)

    untuk main sedang ada ursa atau spec
    untuk main lama tidak disarankan pake build ini, apalagi di tim lwn ada hero2 allstar
    ex troll, bara, DT, dll, bakalan disable bgt hero2 ini

    btw venge awal2 pake ring ama stout mayan ampe lv 8 untuk lv 12an harus PT ama vanguard dan sedikit pot dan tele untuk penyelamatan diri, setelah itu terserah anda

    lama ga posting disini^^
    Last edited by 45678; 12-10-08 at 02:38. Reason: lupa sesuatu
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleezybeez View Post
    ikutan om..

    kalo gw kaya gene combonya

    raigor
    pohon roof
    pit lord
    sk
    levi

    emg susah awal" crepingnya...
    tp kalo war gk bakal kalah tuh...
    jgn pernah pake hero melee lebih dari 3 apalg 5 @_@
    believe me

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    lagi demen drafting yg kek gini

    - solo tgh = Brood / Meepo
    - kanan = DK Lich
    - kiri = Levi WL/Puck

    usahakan ban hero area macem BeastM, TP, ES

    yg kurang dari combo ini mungkin..
    - nyaris ga isa mobile
    - kalo di line diratain awal2..calon parah terakhirnya
    - hero msuh yg jungling bakal kaya coz susah dijaga

    bagusny combo ini
    + hero kuat di line coz ada tukang GB (WL Lich)
    + klo hero late jadi, masa depan cerah ^_^



    ada jg combo seperti ini
    - solo tgh = Zeus/Visage
    - kanan = ES potm
    - Kiri = Lion Levi/NA

    yg kurang dari combo ini mungkin..
    - klo gagal di awal, jamin gatot di akhir
    - kekurangan hero late yg bisa merubah keadaan

    bagusnya ni combo
    + hampir di setiap line bisa makan korban
    + hero late musuh dijamin hidupny ga tenang

    mudah2an berguna..thx gg wp @_@

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    @zion jr2nd
    setuju saia, jgn ampe lich diambil musuh bisa abis meeponya
    yg jelas harus ban RAIGOR (hero haram)
    tp kiri jgn levi, mungkin bagusan poon kale ya????
    buat kasi timing meepo buat poof, kan agak lama pake poof(skitar 2-3 dtk)
    stun levi cuma 3 dtk iket poon 5 detik
    jd klo ga mempan poff+iket tinggal.................
    kejarrrrrrrrrrr dinnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!(para pencari tuhan)
    Last edited by 45678; 12-10-08 at 15:40.
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    tolong dibahas dengan format seperti ini :

    http://www.indogamers.com/302536-post1.html

    contoh :

    http://www.indogamers.com/1570909-post254.html

    biar bisa dibahas bareng2...
    "Ye of detestible name and virtue.. false apostle; thou art bayed back to the abyss!"
    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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    Dota version 6.56

    next strategy...

    (0)
    Ban Hero :

    1. Treant Protector
    hero yg belom di nerf... skill nya area2 dan imba2

    2. Nerubian Assassin
    hero paling mengganggu ketika kita lagi lining ato mo bokong2... tau2 nongol trus di crot-gosok-bilas

    3. Spectre
    hero yg uda di nerf tapi early nya malah imba... masa cooldown haunt awal2 120sec... bisa bunuh2 gampang donk

    (1)
    Drafting :
    1. Priestress of The Moon
    2. Dragon Knight
    3. Juggernaut
    4. Lord of Olympia
    5. Alchemist


    (2)
    Line-Up :

    Line Defensive : Alchemist, Juggernaut
    Combo Unstable Conccoction sama Blade Fury bener2mantap bikin hero kocar kacir keabisan life...

    Line Balance : Priestress of The Moon
    Hero mid paling tangguh karena punya 2 skill nuke dari Arrow dan Starfall nya... kalo mo lari pun gampang tinggal Leap.

    Line Offensive : Dragon Knight, Lord of Olympia
    Siapa yg bisa tahan Dragon Knight? Dragon Blood nya bikin dia tebel... ditambah sambaran petir dari Zeus...

    (3)
    Lining Strategy :

    Priestess of The Moon mobiling ke line2 lain... sementara line yg dibantu incer 1 hero dengan skill stun nya masing2 (Alchemist/Dragon Knight)... biar Juggernaut di line buat farming... biar dia kaya... sementara Alchemist, Zeus, Mirana keliling2....

    (4)
    Big Battle :

    dibuka dengan Dragon Knight pake Elder Dragon Form... dibantu Acid Spray dari Alchemist yg bikin armor jebol... Priestess of The Moon incer 1 hero pake panah trus Leap dan bunuh2 diakhiri Starfall... Juggernaut ngerusuh pake Blade Fury... Zeus tinggal petir2 mengandalkan Static Field nya... ada yg sekarat tinggal W... DOAR...


    (5)
    Item :

    Priestess of The Moon : Power Thread AGI, Manta Style, Orchid (awal2 seh ambil Wraith Band dulu)
    Lord of Olympia : Phase Boots, Guinso, Shiva Guard (awal2 ambil Null Talisman)
    Dragon Knight : Boots of Travel, Black King Bar, Assault Cuirass
    Juggernaut : Power Thread AGI, Battle Fury, Butterfly (awal2 ambil wraith band kalo lom kekumpul)
    Alchemist : Power Thread INT, Vladmir Offering, Mask of Madness, Radiance (kalo jadi, kalo ga ya cukup Bracer aja seh dan support observer & sentry)

    (6)
    Kelebihan :
    - banyak stunner (alche, davion, mirana)
    - banyak disabbler (guinso, orcrid)
    - banyak aura (shiva, cuirass, vladmir)
    - mirana bisa cancel serangan pake manta
    - hero killer berdamage besar (jugger, mirana)

    Kekurangan :
    - ga ada mass disabbler (global silence, ravage, black hole, song of siren)
    - sulit jadi apabila lining dan gap gagal
    - kunci utama pada mirana
    Last edited by dark_messenger; 28-10-08 at 20:47.
    "Ye of detestible name and virtue.. false apostle; thou art bayed back to the abyss!"
    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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    kalo menurut gw 5 vs 5 combo enak pake magnus , luna, raigor , pohon dan Fv...
    magnus ama pohon buat refreser. raigor buka nge blink. ada yg kabur luna ama Fv ngejegat dr belakang mereka ama samping... ga bisa kmana2 itu... tergantung eq nya pada jadi juga apa kaga sih ??? he3x....

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    gokilll..

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    kombo bagus mnrt gw

    Top :jakiro + viper
    Mid : Potm
    Bot : spectre + zeus

    dekskripsi :viper,jakiro dan potm ngegank ke masing2 line.
    apabila masi ada yg lolos,bisa di haunt dengan spectre dan W zeus.

    Big war:di buka dengan haunt spectre kemudian starfall mirana.baru ulti jakiro.
    tugas viper ngelock hero yg kemungkinan carry (hero yg membuat kekompakan team menjadi bubar dengan slownya)
    di akhiri dengan W zeus apabila belum mati.

    silahkan di coba ^^
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    pohon + nortrom ,gk bisa ap2 lwnnya kwakwakw

    3 nya bebas lah apa

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    Dota version 6.56

    next strategy...
    dimana Admiral Proudmore, Windrunner, Goblin Clockwerk, dan Invoker masih belom bisa diikutsertakan.

    (0)
    Ban Hero :
    1. Treant Protector
    Hero area paling menggangu dari ulti overgrowth nya dan eye of forest dan belum lagi pembuat armor tebal dan recover hp dari living armornya
    2. Dragon Knight
    Hero yg paling tebel di jagad DotA version ini. Selain armor dan recovery HP dari Dragon Blood, Ulti Elder Dragon Form nya di improve abis2an...
    3. Priestess of The Moon
    Hero yg gampang bokong2 dan punya 2 skill nuke dan mudah melarikan diri. Hero ini sekaligus support bisa menghilangkan teman 1 team nya serta dirinya.
    4. Broodmother
    Hero di mid yg sulit dilawan karena jaring nya yg bikin dia invinsible dan sulit dilawan harus modal sentry/dust. Hero ini pun yg ditakuti bila BKB jadi di tangan dia...

    (1)
    Drafting :
    1. Omni Knight
    2. Shadow Priest
    3. Warlock
    4. Holy Knight
    5. Lord of Avernus

    (2)
    Line-Up & Item awal :
    Line Defensive : Omni Knight (Healing Salve, Ring of Basilius)
    Line Balance : Warlock (Tango x2, Clarity x4)
    Line Offensive : Lord of Avernus (Clarity x2, Ring of Basilius), Shadow Priest (Tango x2, Clarity x4)
    Junggle : Holy Knight (Observer ward x1, Healing Salve x2)

    (3)
    Lining Strategy :
    Omni Knight : bakal disiksa di line tp jgn khawatir. Usahakan deny creep dan pastikan mana cukup buat heal. Tujuan omni knight hanya leveling aja... sulit creeping hero melee bila lawan 2 hero range.
    Warlock : Main save, utamakan deny creep dan usahakan jgn sampe mati... tunggu sampe level 6 dan tinggal bokong2.
    Holy Knight : Ambil Creep Neutral yg kuat trus creeping di utan. Bisa tarik creep sendiri ke creep neutral kok. Tunggu sampe dapet Centaur & Fulborg baru ikutan perang.
    Shadow Priest & Lord of Avernus : bagian penyiksa karena 2-2nya double slower. Level 3 bisa bunuh kok. Frostmourne lv.2 dan Poison Touch lv.2 bisa bikin hero musuh slow bener2 slow.

    (4)
    Big Battle :
    Omni Knight paling depan, disusul Lord of Avernus. Incer hero disabbler dan nuke duluan. Cari moment tepat baru keluarkan Infernal (Rain of Chaos). Heal ke hero yg sekarat (Purist / Abaddon). Dateng rombongan Chen beserta creep nya serta skill slow Penentence dan dibantu Poison Touch Dazzle. Saat nya kocar kacir, pake ulti Dazzle, Weave dibantu Upheaval nya Warlock sementara itu dia mengontrol Necromonicon. Dan Silahkan bunuh2. Apabila ada hero Area (Earthshaker, Moon Rider, Lich, Leviathan, dll) jgn takut! kita pasukan Healer kok...!!!

    (5)
    Item Akhir :
    - Omni Knight : Power Thread STR, Arcane Ring, Orchid, Assault Cuirass
    - Shadow Priest : Power Thread INT, Guinso, Shiva's Guard
    - Warlock : Boots of Speed, Necronomicon, Guinso
    - Holy Knight : Boots of Speed, Mekansm, Helm of Dominator
    - Lord of Avernus : Power Thread STR, Vladmir Offering, Mask of Madness, Radiance, BKB

    (6)
    Kelebihan :
    - banyak slower (Poison Touch, Frostmourne, Degen Aura, Uphaeval, Penentance)
    - banyak healer (Purification, Death Coil, Shadow Wave, Shadow Word, Hand of God, Mekansm)
    - ada disabbler (guinso, orcrid, War Stomp Centaur)
    - banyak aura (shiva, cuirass, vladmir)
    - Team Full Support
    Kekurangan :
    - ga ada mass disabbler (global silence, ravage, black hole, song of siren)
    - ga ada stunner dan skill disabbler.
    - ga ada hero pukul berdamage besar
    - butuh waktu lumayan sedikit lamaan karena slow dan damage tidak besar
    - item disabbler harus jadi.
    - harus sering bawa sentry ward buat abisin observer ward musuh.
    - cara bermain harus gap gap-an.
    - butuh team work yg harus peka terhadap teman apabila sekarat
    - kunci utama pada kekompakan team
    "Ye of detestible name and virtue.. false apostle; thou art bayed back to the abyss!"
    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_messenger View Post
    Dota version 6.56

    next strategy...
    dimana Admiral Proudmore, Windrunner, Goblin Clockwerk, dan Invoker masih belom bisa diikutsertakan.

    (0)
    Ban Hero :
    1. Treant Protector
    Hero area paling menggangu dari ulti overgrowth nya dan eye of forest dan belum lagi pembuat armor tebal dan recover hp dari living armornya
    2. Dragon Knight
    Hero yg paling tebel di jagad DotA version ini. Selain armor dan recovery HP dari Dragon Blood, Ulti Elder Dragon Form nya di improve abis2an...
    3. Priestess of The Moon
    Hero yg gampang bokong2 dan punya 2 skill nuke dan mudah melarikan diri. Hero ini sekaligus support bisa menghilangkan teman 1 team nya serta dirinya.
    4. Broodmother
    Hero di mid yg sulit dilawan karena jaring nya yg bikin dia invinsible dan sulit dilawan harus modal sentry/dust. Hero ini pun yg ditakuti bila BKB jadi di tangan dia...

    (1)
    Drafting :
    1. Omni Knight
    2. Shadow Priest
    3. Warlock
    4. Holy Knight
    5. Lord of Avernus

    (2)
    Line-Up & Item awal :
    Line Defensive : Omni Knight (Healing Salve, Ring of Basilius)
    Line Balance : Warlock (Tango x2, Clarity x4)
    Line Offensive : Lord of Avernus (Clarity x2, Ring of Basilius), Shadow Priest (Tango x2, Clarity x4)
    Junggle : Holy Knight (Observer ward x1, Healing Salve x2)

    (3)
    Lining Strategy :
    Omni Knight : bakal disiksa di line tp jgn khawatir. Usahakan deny creep dan pastikan mana cukup buat heal. Tujuan omni knight hanya leveling aja... sulit creeping hero melee bila lawan 2 hero range.
    Warlock : Main save, utamakan deny creep dan usahakan jgn sampe mati... tunggu sampe level 6 dan tinggal bokong2.
    Holy Knight : Ambil Creep Neutral yg kuat trus creeping di utan. Bisa tarik creep sendiri ke creep neutral kok. Tunggu sampe dapet Centaur & Fulborg baru ikutan perang.
    Shadow Priest & Lord of Avernus : bagian penyiksa karena 2-2nya double slower. Level 3 bisa bunuh kok. Frostmourne lv.2 dan Poison Touch lv.2 bisa bikin hero musuh slow bener2 slow.

    (4)
    Big Battle :
    Omni Knight paling depan, disusul Lord of Avernus. Incer hero disabbler dan nuke duluan. Cari moment tepat baru keluarkan Infernal (Rain of Chaos). Heal ke hero yg sekarat (Purist / Abaddon). Dateng rombongan Chen beserta creep nya serta skill slow Penentence dan dibantu Poison Touch Dazzle. Saat nya kocar kacir, pake ulti Dazzle, Weave dibantu Upheaval nya Warlock sementara itu dia mengontrol Necromonicon. Dan Silahkan bunuh2. Apabila ada hero Area (Earthshaker, Moon Rider, Lich, Leviathan, dll) jgn takut! kita pasukan Healer kok...!!!

    (5)
    Item Akhir :
    - Omni Knight : Power Thread STR, Arcane Ring, Orchid, Assault Cuirass
    - Shadow Priest : Power Thread INT, Guinso, Shiva's Guard
    - Warlock : Boots of Speed, Necronomicon, Guinso
    - Holy Knight : Boots of Speed, Mekansm, Helm of Dominator
    - Lord of Avernus : Power Thread STR, Vladmir Offering, Mask of Madness, Radiance, BKB

    (6)
    Kelebihan :
    - banyak slower (Poison Touch, Frostmourne, Degen Aura, Uphaeval, Penentance)
    - banyak healer (Purification, Death Coil, Shadow Wave, Shadow Word, Hand of God, Mekansm)
    - ada disabbler (guinso, orcrid, War Stomp Centaur)
    - banyak aura (shiva, cuirass, vladmir)
    - Team Full Support
    Kekurangan :
    - ga ada mass disabbler (global silence, ravage, black hole, song of siren)
    - ga ada stunner dan skill disabbler.
    - ga ada hero pukul berdamage besar
    - butuh waktu lumayan sedikit lamaan karena slow dan damage tidak besar
    - item disabbler harus jadi.
    - harus sering bawa sentry ward buat abisin observer ward musuh.
    - cara bermain harus gap gap-an.
    - butuh team work yg harus peka terhadap teman apabila sekarat
    - kunci utama pada kekompakan team
    buset dah ini tim... hari gini ga pake agi??? salutt...

    keren juga sih tapi... kreatif banget, ga kaya hero2 standard yang cuma bisa andalin kekuatan agi yang udah jadi.

    satu lagi bro kelemahannya, selain musti kompak musti pro juga tuh... ^^

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    GG dah

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    apa iyah??

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    buset dah ni adryzzz, masa semua thread di kasi "apa iyah???"

    GG kk...

    menuh2in thread doang... yang kreatif donk... ^^
    kasian yang bener2 niat baca. cuma liat "apa iyah???" OMG...

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