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    Quote Originally Posted by illidan_evil View Post
    gw ada combo mantep bwat buka serangan.

    FV ama sk

    sk epic dager,bis itu Fv chrono,ato dibalik jugga bisa.selanjutnya klo creep bersih bisa ditambah ama chain frost ato ga omni slash. klo masi pada slamet tambahin aja ama zeus.
    tambahin juggernaut omnislah aja.... parah kok itu... gua da coba...
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    Sentinel side neh :
    Atas : qop
    Tgh : wl
    Bwh : skel king, jakiro, sand king (GBin si skel king mpe jadi)

    Item mah scukupnya, sdptnya, yg pnting wkt big jgn blunder...

    Bignya gampang aja :
    Skel king taruh depan buat tb, trus SK lompat epi brsamaan dg jakiro ngluarin es + ulti +skill 1, jgn lupa jatuhin golem, qop wave + screm. dah pkknya klo smoa jurus kluar mah GG pasti...

    Bnyk sih combo2nya, ga ada absnya klo diomongin ::laugh::

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    Quote Originally Posted by QrX View Post
    Sentinel side neh :
    Atas : qop
    Tgh : wl
    Bwh : skel king, jakiro, sand king (GBin si skel king mpe jadi)

    Item mah scukupnya, sdptnya, yg pnting wkt big jgn blunder...

    Bignya gampang aja :
    Skel king taruh depan buat tb, trus SK lompat epi brsamaan dg jakiro ngluarin es + ulti +skill 1, jgn lupa jatuhin golem, qop wave + screm. dah pkknya klo smoa jurus kluar mah GG pasti...

    Bnyk sih combo2nya, ga ada absnya klo diomongin ::laugh::
    gpp omongin aja kok combonya...
    disini kita saling share...
    item recommended nya apa neh?
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    defensive line : FV, Lich
    Offensive line : Tinker, Propet
    balance ; Abaddon

    FV : Difussal,Manta Item penting
    Lich : aghanim, Guinsoo
    Tinker : manta, Radiance, Guinsoo
    Propet : guinsoo, Skadi
    abaddon: Bkb, MkB

    Jelekna gk da Stuner, Cma perma Bash.
    Tp ini Kuat bwat jaga Line, FV diBeking Lich Bsa jadi.
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    SK, QOP, PUrish,Rootfellen,DT ne disisi senitel
    SK ma Purish = Bawah (offence)
    QoP = Tengah (balance)
    Rootfellen ma DT = atas (defensive)

    SK purish combonya buurow-----> langsung heal, damage yg sakit bener diawal2, kalo epi uda ada siap2 wat combo burrow------>repel----->Epi, g bakal kena cancel kalo bukan stun pasif.musuh kalo bukan blinker pasti udah minta tuker ato ditinggal, jadi mudah wat push dan musuh ragu wat bokong 2 hero ne, kalo tinggal dikit,jugadiganggbang juga ada guardian yg kuat banget n siap repel + langsung epi pasti kubu musuh ada korban.selain itu ada slow dari purish yg bikin musuh sulit wat kabur.kombinasi offence terbaik menurut gw.

    QoP dengan combo attack yg serem dan blinker juga pasti akasha jadi hero yg pas banget di tengah wat jaga balance. apalagi kalo dibiarin solo wat beri kesempatan ne hero jadi duluan.n fungsi banget abis big battle kalo ada yg masi selamet mo lari2

    rootfellen ma DT, rootfellen diatas defen ma DT, kesannya sulit tapi jadi aman kedua hero nie, rootfellen tank+support yg susah kill hero, n DT yg late hero tapi lemah diawal2, dengan adanya rootfellen, DT yg lemah bisa diberi banyak perlindungan, misalnya aja bisa ilang, ada mata bila ada yg ********, ada armor+ regen, jadi membuat DT bisa lebih cepat untuk melengkapkan Eqnya.Tapi tanpa melupakan rootfelen itu sendiri yg sebagai tank untuk jadiin eq nya.

    combo big battle. repel-----> Burrow------>Epi(catatan urish ikut maju untuk slowin musuh,supaya epi kena ke semua hero.abis itu DT muncul langsung Crono. lalu QoP wave n siap2 wat scream juga.siap racun wat musugh yang masi idup setelah dicrono + dipukulin ma DT. abis itu kalo ada yg masi idup diarea tadi rootfelen langsung iket aja. nah ber5 tadi langsung aja pukulin yg masi idup. itu kalo dalam keadaan nyawa penuh. kalo kepepet dulu. guardian mending dipake dulu. baru semua combo tadi dikeluarin.


    kalo masalah eq. mending pake Eq yg mengoptimalkan diri sendiri. SK ngga perlu pake Dagger, cukup ngumpet bareng ma purish ntar muncul bareng musuh juga bingung. jadi Eqnya yg biasa dipake aja.ngga usa Eq khusus, mungkin khusus kalo ada beberapa musuh yg blinker.eqnya pake yg model2 ngutuk gitu de(hex)itupun kalo masi bisa idup dari combo itu.


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    Menurut gw seh kayak gini :

    Sentinel

    -Atas : lich & venge
    -Mid :viper
    -bawah : Syllabear & Chen(hutan)

    Klo masalah lining di atas gw rasa udah jelas megang,di tengah mana ada yg tahan di harass viper,klo di bawah (bear) di backup ama chen.Terus klo buat ******** enak juga di penitence ama chen trus di pukul ama bear nya jadi DPS nya banyak yg masuk dan lebih sering entangle keluar.
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    gw mau ngebagi dikit.. tapi gw ga tau 5 hero langsung...paling duetnya doank..
    klo lich & FV chronos dl baru CF
    SK & rikimaru, riki asepnya penting bgts...
    pohon & doctor & rylai & tormented soul bagus..
    **** & rikimaru keren klo duet.. disabler ma slower... badak abis...
    yang laennya blm inget.... ^^
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    selain yg gua bilang diatas :
    Balance : qop
    Offensive : viper, avernus
    Defensive : lina, venge

    sekarang gua liat gini:

    drafting hero :
    1. warlock
    2. spectre
    3. rogue knight (sven)
    4. netherdrake (viper)
    5. drow ranger

    line up :
    balance : warlock
    offensive : sven, spectre
    defensive : drow, viper

    line strategy :
    warlock : main deny diutamakan... cicil hero bila ada kesempatan creep maju musuh msh disungai...
    sven & spectre : utamakan deny jg... cari kesempatan ketika musuh agak lengah... bole cicil dolo pake storm bolt... saat lengah spectre tempel pake spectral dagger trus pukul2 dibantu storm bolt sven... kemungkinan 1 hero mati...
    viper & drow : double slower... diusahan lvl 3 uda kill karena main deny tarik creep jadi uda bisa cicil hero pake frost arrow dan poison attack... saat 2-2nya lvl 3... buka pake viper poison attack... musuh rada melawan keluarkan silence... trus frost arrow (2-2nya tanpa autocast)

    big battle guide :
    offensive :
    - warlock buka infernal
    - kalo ada difusal ya gpp... bantu silence dari drow ranger... viper bkb abisin 1 hero dibantu drow
    - sven pake storm bolt ati2... usahakan untuk cancel channeling spell musuh... kalo ga ada yg channeling lgs lempar mana aja yg mo di kill yg pasti jgn hero yg sama diincer ma viper...
    - spectre harus pandai2 lihat situasi dan menggunakan haunt & reality... kalo bisa kill ksh ke spectre....
    defensive :
    - sven dan viper siap menghadang, drow sembunyi buat ambush....
    - warlock & spectre pandai2 liat sikon untuk infernal dan haunt...
    - sven bkb dan viper bkb uda pasti ketahan...

    Equip :
    - warlock : dagon, dagger, guiso, travel (kalo sempet), refresher orb (optional)
    - viper : bkb, buriza, defiance, power thread, HoT/Butterfly (kalo sempet dan optional)
    - sven : bkb, buriza, sange yasha / mask of madness, / satanic, power thread, HoT (optional)
    - drow : lothar edge, buriza, butterfly, power thread
    - spectre : sange yasha / manta style, radiance, vanguard, power thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_messenger View Post
    Berhubung di tourney2 sekarang menggunakan -AP (All Pick)
    mari bahas semua combo2 dari semua hero DotA disini....

    Pembahasan dimulai dari :
    1. Drafting... pilih 5 hero dengan urutan dari pertama sampe ke lima
    2. Line up... (kiri - tengah - kanan) atau (atas - tengah - bawah) dilihat dari sisi sentinel ato scourge
    3. Combo skill hero pada line up masing2
    4. Combo skill dalam big battle
    5. Item yang disarankan

    marilah kita saling share disini.... ok?
    jangan ada yang flaming... hargailah semua pendapat dan opini masing2 gamers.
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    Drafting
    1. Akasha - Carry
    2. Lich - Ganker
    3. Spectre - Carry
    4. Rexxar - Tanker
    5. Venomancer - Ganker

    Line Up
    Sentinel
    Akasha Solo Tengah
    Lich,Spectre Bawah
    Rexxar,Venomancer Atas
    Kalo Scourge tinggal dibalik

    Combo Line
    Akasha farm. kalo lawannya nuker berat bisa minta bokong sama venom
    Lich sama Spectre combonya spectre pake spectral dagger biar musuhnya gk ketutup fog of war, baru di frost nova terus lich ama Spectrenya gebuk2in. Usahakan Spectre untuk farm
    Rexxar Ambil jurus 1, 2 Rexar bisa gunain Call Of the Wild buat scout powerup atau scout buat gank. Combonya pake rexar dulu roar, terus babinya suruh nyerang musuhnya, digebukin ber2, terus kalo udah sadar venom suruh shadow strike, gebuk2

    Combo Big Battle
    Venom dan Rexxar duluan lalu venom maju poison nova, shadow strike 1 orang yg plg lemah, Terus Akasha Wave, Lich Chain Frost, Lalu Akasha blink lalu Scream of Pain, Spectre Haunt, Reality, Rexxar Roar apabila masih ada yg kabur, Dan Spectre/Akasha Ngejar

    Apabila Sedang keadaan tidak battle, Terus item spectre sudah lumayan jadi, maka elangnya rexxar bisa dipakai untuk scout ke hutan. Karena biasanya hero2 yg creeping di hutan, adalah hero yg gampang di gank/lemah. apabila sudah ketemu target dan lebih lemah drpd spectre, spectre lgsg haunt & reality, abisin. terus baliknya pakai TP.

    Item yg Disarankan
    Akasha - Linken, Radiance
    Lich - Mekansm, Dagger
    Spectre - Stygan
    Rexxar - Perservance, BKB
    Venom - Dagger, Aghanim

    Itemnya gk terlalu banyak, biasanya item segini juga gamenya uda kelar

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    Quote Originally Posted by [v]andalgion View Post
    Drafting
    1. Akasha - Carry
    2. Lich - Ganker
    3. Spectre - Carry
    4. Rexxar - Tanker
    5. Venomancer - Ganker

    Line Up
    Sentinel
    Akasha Solo Tengah
    Lich,Spectre Bawah
    Rexxar,Venomancer Atas
    Kalo Scourge tinggal dibalik

    Combo Line
    Akasha farm. kalo lawannya nuker berat bisa minta bokong sama venom
    Lich sama Spectre combonya spectre pake spectral dagger biar musuhnya gk ketutup fog of war, baru di frost nova terus lich ama Spectrenya gebuk2in. Usahakan Spectre untuk farm
    Rexxar Ambil jurus 1, 2 Rexar bisa gunain Call Of the Wild buat scout powerup atau scout buat gank. Combonya pake rexar dulu roar, terus babinya suruh nyerang musuhnya, digebukin ber2, terus kalo udah sadar venom suruh shadow strike, gebuk2

    Combo Big Battle
    Venom dan Rexxar duluan lalu venom maju poison nova, shadow strike 1 orang yg plg lemah, Terus Akasha Wave, Lich Chain Frost, Lalu Akasha blink lalu Scream of Pain, Spectre Haunt, Reality, Rexxar Roar apabila masih ada yg kabur, Dan Spectre/Akasha Ngejar

    Apabila Sedang keadaan tidak battle, Terus item spectre sudah lumayan jadi, maka elangnya rexxar bisa dipakai untuk scout ke hutan. Karena biasanya hero2 yg creeping di hutan, adalah hero yg gampang di gank/lemah. apabila sudah ketemu target dan lebih lemah drpd spectre, spectre lgsg haunt & reality, abisin. terus baliknya pakai TP.

    Item yg Disarankan
    Akasha - Linken, Radiance
    Lich - Mekansm, Dagger
    Spectre - Stygan
    Rexxar - Perservance, BKB
    Venom - Dagger, Aghanim

    Itemnya gk terlalu banyak, biasanya item segini juga gamenya uda kelar

    thx bro sharing nya... bagus kok bisa dipraktekkan...
    mobiling lich sama venom...
    spectre desolator bagus pas haunt kena coruption semua....
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    venom pick ke 5 ? yakin ? bisa2 musuh dapet venom zeus..

    1st pick akasha , musuh pick warlock
    2nd pick lich , musuh zeus
    3rd pick spectre , musuh venom
    4th pick rexxar , musuh viper
    5th pick ga dapet venom , musuh tanker..

    gmn ? keknya da ga berimbang d hero , soalnya musuh ada fatal bone venom , ama ulti zeus

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver-kidz View Post
    venom pick ke 5 ? yakin ? bisa2 musuh dapet venom zeus..

    1st pick akasha , musuh pick warlock
    2nd pick lich , musuh zeus
    3rd pick spectre , musuh venom
    4th pick rexxar , musuh viper
    5th pick ga dapet venom , musuh tanker..

    gmn ? keknya da ga berimbang d hero , soalnya musuh ada fatal bone venom , ama ulti zeus
    lom tentu kk... ada jg yg ga main venom di team nya...

    keseringan gua liat banyak combo venomancer ma zeus... ya tapi ga bisa dibilang jg... gua perna liat melee 5-5nya aja menang...
    "Ye of detestible name and virtue.. false apostle; thou art bayed back to the abyss!"
    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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    raigor,SK,veno,zeus,venge

    raigor buka pake ultinya SK impale+ulti
    si veno tingal ngulti ma venom yg hp masi banyak

    masi ada yg hidupkah???

    panggil aja venge ama zeus.....
    beres khan??!!!::fiuh::

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    Kalo mNurut Gw Sich

    Veno, Lich, SK, Poon

    Cukup Itu Mah Kalo Niat Mo Combo.....

    Burrow, Poison Nova, Iket,Shadow, Epi, CF

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    Quote Originally Posted by e1nste1n View Post
    raigor,SK,veno,zeus,venge

    raigor buka pake ultinya SK impale+ulti
    si veno tingal ngulti ma venom yg hp masi banyak

    masi ada yg hidupkah???

    panggil aja venge ama zeus.....
    beres khan??!!!::fiuh::
    Quote Originally Posted by TenGoKuBoYz View Post
    Kalo mNurut Gw Sich

    Veno, Lich, SK, Poon

    Cukup Itu Mah Kalo Niat Mo Combo.....

    Burrow, Poison Nova, Iket,Shadow, Epi, CF
    baca halaman 1 donk...
    jgn cuma heronya doank...
    drafting...
    line up...
    eq...
    strategy big war...
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    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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