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    [QUOTE=dark_messenger;3914402]hm... berat jg kl lawan kek tinker, viper, mirana, sf di mid...
    spectre ga bisa balas... kalo di deny terus ya jauh banget jarak level nya...
    emang bisa dibokong sih... tapi levi bantu jg awal2 baru gush ma spectral dagger doank...

    Betul juga sih,coba deh ntar ak maen bnet pke spectre trus.biar bisa mendapat informasi cara maennya dan item2nya yang lebih detail agar bisa survive di tengah.atau cari kombo2 yang mantap dan sulit dikalahkan.makasi kk dark atas pendapatnya
    ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by sentaroso View Post
    Betul juga sih,coba deh ntar ak maen bnet pke spectre trus.biar bisa mendapat informasi cara maennya dan item2nya yang lebih detail agar bisa survive di tengah.atau cari kombo2 yang mantap dan sulit dikalahkan.makasi kk dark atas pendapatnya
    ^_^
    jujur aja... gua sih bingung kalo spec di tengah...
    kalo phantom assassin...
    ato stealth assassin di tengah sih masih bisa creeping...
    spectre? masa 1x spectral dagger?
    "Ye of detestible name and virtue.. false apostle; thou art bayed back to the abyss!"
    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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    kalo menurut gw sih, spec di tgh..
    ad lawnnya itu tinker, viper, zeus...

    gw sarankan sih jangan push creep...
    ambil exp di dekat twr...
    banyakin untuk deny...
    itu aja kk...
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    Sentinel
    The team of Knight. . .

    pick N lining :
    Mid : Chen
    Top : DK
    Bot : Nessaj + Purist
    Mobile :sven

    Ban :
    Dazzle,weave n SG sngt mngganggu0
    teciz,melee seline ma teciz = susah creeping
    DT,chrono culik omni ato holy,bye
    necro,HS aura vs 4 str. . .~_~

    Pros N Cons :
    + ad 4 hero STR,2 healer. . .frag musuh susah naik
    + bisa slng covering. . .
    + combo 3 stun gmpng buat FB
    - kurangny area
    - bnyk hero melee
    - ga ad hitter sjati
    -btuh pemain yg jago micro tuk maen chen

    EQ :
    Chen : travel,mekanz,hex,domi,Aghnim(optional)
    sven : dager,PT,cuirass,MoM,orchid(optional)
    nessaj : PT,vlad,SnY,CB,Taras(optional)
    DK : PT,pipe,domi,buriza,taras(optional)
    omni : travel,arcane,hex,Rf orb(optional)

    Early :
    starting item :
    chen : courier,IWB,tango
    nessaj : baslius,tango
    Omni : obs,IWB,tango
    DK : RoR,GAuntlet,tango
    Sven : mantle,clarity,tango

    chen jaga line smbil sesekali cari creep utan wat haras. . .
    sven lgsg incer FB d bwh. . .
    nessaj + omni bkal maen agresive,reality + CB +purify =dalam
    DK maen defensive jaga line sambil tgg sven bntu bkng. . .

    mid game :
    chen sering" cari creep wat ganking. . .
    DK hunt. . .
    Nessaj + sven + omni gank. . .

    late game :
    war :
    1. omni repel k sven truz dager stun + Gs
    2. DK jadi naga,nessaj jadi 4, centa chen rede maju k depan. . .
    3. omni GA,hex,stun,orchid k hero" bahaya. . .

    haruzny dps dari sven,DK,+nessaj dah cokop wat ngeratain musuh dalam 5 sec. . .

    Thx. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen_HeartZ View Post
    Sentinel
    The team of Knight. . .

    pick N lining :
    Mid : Chen
    Top : DK
    Bot : Nessaj + Purist
    Mobile :sven

    Ban :
    Dazzle,weave n SG sngt mngganggu0
    teciz,melee seline ma teciz = susah creeping
    DT,chrono culik omni ato holy,bye
    necro,HS aura vs 4 str. . .~_~

    Pros N Cons :
    + ad 4 hero STR,2 healer. . .frag musuh susah naik
    + bisa slng covering. . .
    + combo 3 stun gmpng buat FB
    - kurangny area
    - bnyk hero melee
    - ga ad hitter sjati
    -btuh pemain yg jago micro tuk maen chen

    EQ :
    Chen : travel,mekanz,hex,domi,Aghnim(optional)
    sven : dager,PT,cuirass,MoM,orchid(optional)
    nessaj : PT,vlad,SnY,CB,Taras(optional)
    DK : PT,pipe,domi,buriza,taras(optional)
    omni : travel,arcane,hex,Rf orb(optional)

    Early :
    starting item :
    chen : courier,IWB,tango
    nessaj : baslius,tango
    Omni : obs,IWB,tango
    DK : RoR,GAuntlet,tango
    Sven : mantle,clarity,tango

    chen jaga line smbil sesekali cari creep utan wat haras. . .
    sven lgsg incer FB d bwh. . .
    nessaj + omni bkal maen agresive,reality + CB +purify =dalam
    DK maen defensive jaga line sambil tgg sven bntu bkng. . .

    mid game :
    chen sering" cari creep wat ganking. . .
    DK hunt. . .
    Nessaj + sven + omni gank. . .

    late game :
    war :
    1. omni repel k sven truz dager stun + Gs
    2. DK jadi naga,nessaj jadi 4, centa chen rede maju k depan. . .
    3. omni GA,hex,stun,orchid k hero" bahaya. . .

    haruzny dps dari sven,DK,+nessaj dah cokop wat ngeratain musuh dalam 5 sec. . .

    Thx. . .
    uda perna ada sih hero knight semua...
    tapi beda strategy...
    thx for sharing...
    tar dikirim cendol nya
    "Ye of detestible name and virtue.. false apostle; thou art bayed back to the abyss!"
    "Hark, lightning that rides within the ashen depths; descend down as a storm upon my foes!"
    "If ye shall accept the benedictions of beauty, then yea; let these chains of aster surround thee!"
    "No mercy for the damned; thus, thou has no escape from the grasp of catastrophe"


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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_messenger View Post
    uda perna ada sih hero knight semua...
    tapi beda strategy...
    thx for sharing...
    tar dikirim cendol nya
    thx. . .
    ga tao saya dah ad. . .
    cma baca post d page 1 doank c. . .
    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen_HeartZ View Post
    Sentinel
    The team of Knight. . .

    pick N lining :
    Mid : Chen
    Top : DK
    Bot : Nessaj + Purist
    Mobile :sven

    Ban :
    Dazzle,weave n SG sngt mngganggu0
    teciz,melee seline ma teciz = susah creeping
    DT,chrono culik omni ato holy,bye
    necro,HS aura vs 4 str. . .~_~

    Pros N Cons :
    + ad 4 hero STR,2 healer. . .frag musuh susah naik
    + bisa slng covering. . .
    + combo 3 stun gmpng buat FB
    - kurangny area
    - bnyk hero melee
    - ga ad hitter sjati
    -btuh pemain yg jago micro tuk maen chen

    EQ :
    Chen : travel,mekanz,hex,domi,Aghnim(optional)
    sven : dager,PT,cuirass,MoM,orchid(optional)
    nessaj : PT,vlad,SnY,CB,Taras(optional)
    DK : PT,pipe,domi,buriza,taras(optional)
    omni : travel,arcane,hex,Rf orb(optional)

    Early :
    starting item :
    chen : courier,IWB,tango
    nessaj : baslius,tango
    Omni : obs,IWB,tango
    DK : RoR,GAuntlet,tango
    Sven : mantle,clarity,tango

    chen jaga line smbil sesekali cari creep utan wat haras. . .
    sven lgsg incer FB d bwh. . .
    nessaj + omni bkal maen agresive,reality + CB +purify =dalam
    DK maen defensive jaga line sambil tgg sven bntu bkng. . .

    mid game :
    chen sering" cari creep wat ganking. . .
    DK hunt. . .
    Nessaj + sven + omni gank. . .

    late game :
    war :
    1. omni repel k sven truz dager stun + Gs
    2. DK jadi naga,nessaj jadi 4, centa chen rede maju k depan. . .
    3. omni GA,hex,stun,orchid k hero" bahaya. . .

    haruzny dps dari sven,DK,+nessaj dah cokop wat ngeratain musuh dalam 5 sec. . .

    Thx. . .
    *Edited*
    Thanks yah panduannya... bener bener berguna

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    pick :
    -ogre
    -leshrac
    -dark seer
    -kunkka
    -magnuz

    ban :
    teciz,4 melee GG lawan teciz
    axe,sama dgn teciz
    doom,siapapun bkal susah jadi ma doom. . .
    spec,dispersion dan haunt sngt mnggungu dalam war. . .

    build :
    ogre: phase,arcane,linken,hex,radi(optional)
    leshrac : travel,hex,shiva,mekanz,dager(optional)
    DS : travel,Blood,pipe,micon,taras(optional)
    kunkka : pt,vlad,SnY,cuirass,BF(optional)
    magnuz : pt,dager,orchid,buriz,mjolnir(optional)

    pros n cons :

    pros :
    -rata" hero gampang farm. . .
    -bnyk skill area. . .
    -skill herony bisa saling synergy. . .

    cons :
    -ga ad agi
    -terlalu bnyk melee

    rata" build hero d atz = hybrid. .. .
    saya ga tao mo d masukkan k pros ato conz

    gameplay

    1.lining :
    mid : kunkka
    atz : magnuz
    bwh : DS ma lesh
    mobile : ogre

    2.starting item :
    kunkka : IWb,tango,gauntlet
    lesh : magic stick,obs,tango
    ogre : IWB,tango,salve,clarity
    magnuz : QB,tango.cuirier
    DS : basilus,tango

    early :
    atz:
    DS n lesh lgsg kjer FB sma ogre. .
    then ushakan rush twer . . .
    kunkka harash sambil ngg ogre gank. . .
    magnuz maen safe. . .

    mid :
    lesh,ogre,DS gank hero. . .
    nuz farm ampe dager then ikut gank. . .
    kunkka farm kjer eq. . .

    late/war :
    -nuz n ogre kasi blood n empower. . .
    -DS pncing hero smua kluar then vacuum, . .
    -nuz dager,RP. . .
    -lesh dager pulse,DC,LS. . .
    -kunkka torent kpal. . .
    -ogre fireblast k yg plng bahya. . .
    -lesh stun stleh torent. . .

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    hero ban:
    - earthshaker
    - rofftelen
    - leviatan
    - venge

    pick hero:
    -mid : traxex
    -sentinel = diatas ,scourge dibawah = dibawah..mirana
    -sentinel = dibawah,scourge = diatas..bristleback,lion,warlock..
    kalo combo gua di bawah mirana,trus di tengah traxex,diatas bristle back ,lion sama warlock..warlock tarik creep trus kalo bb sekarat heal..lion cover bb diatas..kalo udah level 6,lion jalan bantu2 tengah..mirana hunt dibawah ampe save..trus lion ama wl maen obs masing2 beli sendiri buat diatas 2 trus dibawah 2...jadi kalo ad yang maw bokong ketahuan..
    nah untuk big war,kasih bb didepan..kalo bb di toel ,langsung summon golem..heal kasih bb..mirana n traxex panah gebukin..lion stun vodoo yang damage dah gitu finger ke yang lembek...menurut gua gitu..

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    1st ban :
    Doom [ hero yg plng di benci dalam war >,<]
    AA [ ice blast sangat menganggu]
    brood [line up gw ga pake byk area]

    1st pick :
    Tinker
    Sven
    kunkka

    2nd ban :
    medusa
    lich

    2nd pick :
    rylai
    obsi destroyer

    pros and cons :
    + sangat ganas dalam early game [rylai,sven,tinker,kunkka]
    + combo skill yg cukup synergy { dalam permainan late tinker ga perlu khawatir sama mana karna ad essence aura OD]
    + 3 skill area
    - tidak adanya hero agi
    - rylai sangat empuk

    supportives :
    obsi : ayam
    rylai : obs
    sven : smoke


    early game :
    tinker -> mid[solo] -> kejer botol truz fokus hunt travel sesekali cba kill kl ad rylai sama sven. .

    kunkka -> top[solo] -> liad keadaan,,kl trilane musuh di bwh bisa maen agresif kl di atas trilane maen safe sambil ngg rylai sama sven. .

    obsi -> bot[trilane] -> farm dgn baik selagi di jaga sama rylai + sven. .

    rylai sven -> bntuin GB obsi di wh ampe lv 3 mulai jalan". .


    middle game :
    -> tinker haruz sudah BoT dan menjadi sayap utk ngepush top dan bot
    -> kunkka bkin VG hood janggo [ pkoqnya TB abiz]
    -> OD lsg kjer aghnim hex. .
    -> rylai selalu siap suport obs smoke sentry dll
    -> sven mulai hunt utk bkb + MoM

    middle-almost late game [min 35-50]:
    di sini party kita pasti sudah mulai mengalami kesulitan. .
    segera push utk menyelesaikan game. .. .

    strategi war :

    tinker travel ke 1 lane berkali" hingga musuh pasti nyamperin. .
    begitu musuh[3 ato lebih],,sven dager + GS + bkb +MoM
    rylai masuk dgn dager BKB > FF dan kunkka psg kpal. .
    OD cukup hit dan hex[simpen ulti utk 2nd wave of war dan BB]. .


    thx. .

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