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    Quote Originally Posted by ofuro View Post
    gak... karena Stygian Desolator itu Orb Effects dan Buff Placer.. sedangkan poison sting (pasifnya veno) itu Buff Placer saja...
    mksdnya buff placer tuh, naro suatu keadaan ke hero lawan (misalnya fury swipes nya ursa, kan di lawan jadi ada tanda fury swipes, ato frostmourne nya abadon, lawan jadi ada tanda slow)

    yg bisa stack sama poison sting adalah item yang tidak ada tulisannya buff placer (orb effects saja masi boleh)
    cth item yg orb effects saja:
    Mask of Death, Mask of Madness, Helm of Dominator, Satanic... <- ke4 item ini tidak memberikan efek ke lawan... jd bsa dipake buat veno (juga abaddon) tanpa harus kehilangan efek slow dari skill pasifnya

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    brarti venomancer
    Sange Yasha - Madness -> stack ya ma slownya veno. Maim jg keluar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatta View Post
    brarti venomancer
    Sange Yasha - Madness -> stack ya ma slownya veno. Maim jg keluar?
    lifesteal > trigger effect (maim, chain lighting malestrom/mjollnir)
    jd maim gak akan kluar, yg kluar lifesteal doank

    jd yg kluar slow pasif + lifesteal

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    banyak bener ya
    trigger effect
    buff placer
    orb effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofuro View Post
    lifesteal > trigger effect (maim, chain lighting malestrom/mjollnir)
    jd maim gak akan kluar, yg kluar lifesteal doank

    jd yg kluar slow pasif + lifesteal
    tapi kalau pake sange yasha . . maim nya keluar ya?

    stack berarti dengan pasif slow veno?

    kalau sange yasha + skadi . . berarti maim + skadi + slow passive semuanya keluar ya?

    kalau iya GG banget lambatnya . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing_of_Healing View Post
    tapi kalau pake sange yasha . . maim nya keluar ya?

    stack berarti dengan pasif slow veno?

    kalau sange yasha + skadi . . berarti maim + skadi + slow passive semuanya keluar ya?

    kalau iya GG banget lambatnya . .
    sange / sange yasha kan punya efek main.. sedangkan maim itu tergolong orb effects dan buff placer... dan trigger efek -> kastanya paling bawah klo dari urutan orb effects... jadi gak stack.. maim gak akan pernah kluar klo dibarengin sama skadi+slow veno

    klo mw lebih jelas, baca ini aja

    http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/Orb_Effects

    *chance effects = trigger effects

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    gw uda coba kok..
    veno bs kluarin orb effect dan buff placer (racun skill 3)
    dengan kata lain..
    veno pake SnY = Maim + racun
    tp veno gak bs pake skadi.. karena skadi juga buff placer bagi veno.. nabrak jdnya sama skill 3

    kombinasi slow mematikan lain misalnya
    Knight Davion memakai SnY (tanpa equip life steal tentunya)
    Slow dr efek naga esnya + maim.. wuh.. lelet bgt jdnya tu musuh..

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicZCooL View Post
    gw uda coba kok..
    veno bs kluarin orb effect dan buff placer (racun skill 3)
    dengan kata lain..
    veno pake SnY = Maim + racun
    tp veno gak bs pake skadi.. karena skadi juga buff placer bagi veno.. nabrak jdnya sama skill 3

    kombinasi slow mematikan lain misalnya
    Knight Davion memakai SnY (tanpa equip life steal tentunya)
    Slow dr efek naga esnya + maim.. wuh.. lelet bgt jdnya tu musuh..
    yup emang kluar.. tapi pas maim nya proc, efek veno gak jalan... terus lagi, skill 1 (veno gale), skill 3 (pasif), sama ulti gak stack.. cuma 1 yg jalan... jd percuma aja skill 1 trus lgsg ulti..

    naga nya davion emang GG, punya efek slow tapi gak orb effects maupun buff placer..

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    wogh baru tau veno dan ulti gak stack..
    tp bknnya pas habis skill 1 dan ulti dikluarin.. tetep aja musuhnya mati gara2 kena skill 1nya veno yg ada angka kuning2..
    lho.. masi buff placer deh kayaknya itu esnya davion.. wew

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicZCooL View Post
    wogh baru tau veno dan ulti gak stack..
    tp bknnya pas habis skill 1 dan ulti dikluarin.. tetep aja musuhnya mati gara2 kena skill 1nya veno yg ada angka kuning2..
    lho.. masi buff placer deh kayaknya itu esnya davion.. wew
    musuhnya bakal mati klo kena pasifnya (skill 3nya) klo gak salah...
    liat aja lah di forum playdota.com bagian mechanics.. ada smua disitu...

    gw udah lama gak ngikutin DoTA biasa lg >_<

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    @^ sotoy

    skill 1 dan ulti stack koq, gw ga ambil racun (yg orb) aja bisa kill musuh yg kabur (kena skill 1)

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    skill 1 itu yg slow Damage Per Second kan ya?

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    saia ucapken terimakasih,
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    Quote Originally Posted by -AmaY- View Post
    saia ucapken terimakasih,
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    kalau ada waktu kosong tolong di kasing Thanks ya?
    syukur2 di kasih GRP, saya ucapken terimakasih !
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    ^ ^ ^
    makasih....
    mu main ke public, masih belum punya ID hehehe
    ya nanti kalau dah punya saia kasih kabar
    makasih ya ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by -AmaY- View Post
    ^ ^ ^
    makasih....
    mu main ke public, masih belum punya ID hehehe
    ya nanti kalau dah punya saia kasih kabar
    makasih ya ....
    ayo may langsung wisp klo dah punya ajak gw maen y

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