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    Default Suggestion Item Baru.

    I just come up with this idea and some concept around this. So please comment on the concept, rather than the numbers. I can not think of a special name for this item as well so at the meantime i will just use this. The other name that came up my mind is Eyes of Medusa. But Medusa is already a hero name, so i don't know it is appropriate or not.


    Eye of FoNoG


    Total Cost : 1900 Gold


    Requirements:
    - Ring of Basilius [500 gold]
    - Point Booster [1200 Gold]
    - Recipe [200 Gold]

    Why ?
    Ring of Basilius is one of very benefit item at the beginning for such a cheap price. Most INT/AGI/STR heroes need it as well. But for some INT/AGI heroes, the only upgrade that is available for Ring of Basilius is Vladmir's Offering. However, Vladmir's Offering is not suitable for most of those heroes. Most of the time, when we play INT heroes, we end up selling this the ring. This new item, give a new choice for heroes that need some upgrade to their Ring of Basilius. Which can be a supportive item that synergy with a supportive roll that most of INT heroes have.

    Ability:
    - +3 Devotion Aura
    - +250 Hit Points
    - +200 Mana
    - Blind. (Active)
    Effect : Reduce the target sight to 250 and the target will have 13% miss on every attack.
    Last : 8 seconds
    Cooldown : 25 seconds
    Mana cost : 80
    Range : 600

    Why this item ?
    I think that DotA has evolved so much nowadays and this item can add a new dynamic into the game. Also, it can give wider gameplay to DotA.


    Functions:
    - This can be a teamwork item.
    It can be used to blind a main melee attacker to disorganize with his/her whole team members. Melee attacker still can see within 300 area radius so he can still attack his targeted target. This only make him unable to focus on opponent's ranger attacker/caster. This gives some safety to low hp, range INT/AGI heroes to move around during the battle.

    - This can be a disable item.
    By reducing heroes sight. Heroes can not function wholely as the heroes can be. Such as if it is cast on Lina Inverse, she has to move around to find her target to cast her Laguna Blade. Tanker will be hard to maneuver, since it is usually use to stick to main caster or weak range agility heroes.

    - This can be an escape tool.
    Blind the target and then run away. But if the heroes get too close to us, then it will be useless too. So we also need to time the timing in using this item. If the target is a range hero, then we can maneuver out of danger then portal home. With blink dagger, we can 100% run out of safety zone. With Eye of FoNoG, not always 100%. Because only 1 hero that is blinded, his/her ally still can hunt us down.

    - This can be an ambush item.
    Blind the target, and then do whatever we want if we are range heroes. Similar with blink in with blink dagger, but this is more complex. If we cast from the max range, then enemy can run away. If we cast it too close, the enemy can see us.

    - This item has more variety to use with.
    Such as, if we have a decisive channeling skill, but the opponent have a hero that can cancel our spell like Lucifer or stunner. We can blind him first, sandking/maiden/Enigma can then cast his ultimate.

    Notes:
    Although this item can seem like very powerful. But remember only one hero is blinded during the battle. The other can still see us and kill us. It can be fun too if all 10 heroes get one of this.

    Consideration:
    - The cost. I don't know the cost will be too cheap or not.
    - The requirement. At first i want to make this into many parts, just like Eul or Guinsoo. But since looking at it can be an escape tool and its variety of usefullness, i decide to make it a new single item.
    - The name can be change to Eye of IceFrog. Because personally i think IceFrog has done great great job in developing this game and it is time for him to get some credit in the game.

    Please vote on the concept, not numbers. Thanks Q(^.^Q) .


    P.S. The Eye icon, i get it from hiveworkshop.com. I don't know this can violate copyright law or not. I will remove it, if it can not be used.

    Cheers^^
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    Changelog:
    12/7/07
    - Posted

    13/7/07
    - Added Requirements.
    - Added extra ability of the active Blind skill.
    - Reduces sight limit to 250 with 80 Mana cost.
    Jika anda merasa concept ini cocok dengan anda. Silahkan vote T-UP di Link berikut ini.
    http://forums.dota-allstars.com/inde...&#entry1950566

    Vote anda akan sangat bermakna dan silahkan tinggalkan comment anda sekalian. Saya akan membalasnya secepat mungkin.
    Last edited by FNG; 13-07-07 at 02:30.

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    Great creative item! Love the concept! Anyway, it's definitely too pricey, 2350? itu lebih mahal dari blink dagger padahal blink dagger adalah item yang lebih... dinamis di game ini (item terbaik, gak ada hero yang jelek klo beli item ini) Gw saranin turunin harganya jadi... 1600?

    BTW, namanya cari yang bagusan napa... apaan Fonog? namanya apa yah... Fog of War ^^

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    kenapa ga ditambah effect miss seperti Blind nya Jahrakal...
    Just an Idea...harga tetep cm tambahin effectnya...^^

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    Iya itu harganya cuma harga awal2 pas create conceptnya. Emang pada comment kemahalan. Makanya wa mau ganti sehingga butuh spare parts buat create dan ada bonus sampingan.

    Seperti ring basilus yang masih kurang ada upgrade nya.

    Tapi masih mikir2 kira2 bagusnya gimana.

    Thanks for the input.

    P.S. ditambah miss bisa juga tuh. Thanks.

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    masalahnya, gw gak kepikiran item yang cocok sehingga ni bisa jadi resep... bener2 lebih cocok sebagai stand-alone item macam blink dagger.

    Ditambah miss? wah, bahaya banget orang megang butterfly skaligus megang ginian... jadi gede bgt tuh evasionnya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Ste12 View Post
    masalahnya, gw gak kepikiran item yang cocok sehingga ni bisa jadi resep... bener2 lebih cocok sebagai stand-alone item macam blink dagger.

    Ditambah miss? wah, bahaya banget orang megang butterfly skaligus megang ginian... jadi gede bgt tuh evasionnya...
    Masalah itu bisa diakalin dengan berapa persentase miss nya.

    Bisa jadi cuma 5% atao 8%. Atao 10% Spell yang di cast will fail ?

    Jika ada spell fail maka harganya sudah mesti di mahalin lagi.

    Malam ini wa usahain update dengan pemikiran2 baru.

    Thanks for your input.

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    Klo terlalu kecil efek missnya, item itu jadinya gak mungkin dibeli gara2 efek missnya, yang berarti harga mahal2 percuma jg. (efek miss tuh rata2 gede, liat Blind, Drunken Haze).

    Spell fail yah... keren jg tuh ...

    BTW, bisa kasih link lsg ke topicnya di dota-allstars.com? gw males klo harus ribet2 nyari ^^

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    Baru saya renovasi itemnya dan diperlukan item2 lain nya untuk membuat Item ini.

    Saya melihat INT heroes kebanyakan membeli Basilius tetapi sangat tidak mungkin untuk mengupgradenya menjadi Vladmir's Offering. Begitu hero range lainnya. Oleh karena itu, maka ini merupakan option yang lain untuk Basilius.

    Untuk sementara ability dari itemnya menjadi seperti ini.
    Ability:
    - +3 Devotion Aura
    - +250 Hit Points
    - +200 Mana
    - Blind. (Active)
    Effect : Reduce the target sight to 250 and the target will have 13% miss on every attack.
    Last : 8 seconds
    Cooldown : 25 seconds
    Mana cost : 80
    Range : 600

    Untuk lengkapnya silahkan liat postingan pertama yang telah di edit.

    Untuk Link Topiknya bisa klik di link bawah ini di forum officialnya.
    http://forums.dota-allstars.com/inde...&#entry1950566

    Kalo berkenan silahkan vote T-UP ya. Voting anda sangat diperlukan.

    Cheers^^

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    ok juga tuh miss 13% bisa spell fail lagi,
    bisa jadi item andalan tuh buat hero2 yg benci dengan hero2 INT,
    soalnya spell fail ^^

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    good concept.. ^^
    Gw ikut vote ach..
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    kk FNG gambar matanya bisa ga cari yg lain, soalnya terlalu mirip mata Sauron d LOTR, nanti disangka ngejiplak lagi...
    just suggestion...

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    Jadi bisa skill asep kaya Rikimaru ya..

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    om CJ klo eye of Fonog mending daripada ring of basilius (dan ga nyambung cincin jadi mata? ) mending eye of skadi, :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimihitam. View Post
    om CJ klo eye of Fonog mending daripada ring of basilius (dan ga nyambung cincin jadi mata? ) mending eye of skadi, :P
    Swt si mimihitam. Bantuin vote dunk daripada tiap hari di scrambel mulu.


    Pemikiran baru saya itu, mungkin requirement nya juga dirubah. Itu point booster bisa juga diganti dengan 1 bracer + 1 null talisman. Karena saya liat bracer, null talisman dan wraith band itu masih belum ada upgradean nya dan biasanya dijual. Mungkin ini merupakan Opsi lainnya.

    @pertomax, vinz, timothy

    Thanks buat sarannya. Ntar saya cari2 dulu.

    Bantuin Vote dunk. Masih kurang quota nya soalnya.

    ini linknya
    http://forums.dota-allstars.com/inde...owtopic=157345


    Cheers^^

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    uda me bntu vote ^^

    cheers =p

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