Cataclysm = Timeless event?

[Imp_Master]

Sebelumnya akan saya jelaskan mengenai timeline dari sudut pandang seorang pemain. Saya beri contoh saja, yaitu DK. Kalian akan melihat Arthas di Ebon Hold, bagaimanapun expansionnya, bahkan setelah Arthas dikatakan mati oleh lore sekarang. Nah, hal ini berarti bagi seorag DK lv 55, Arthas masih hidup. Lv indicates timeline.

Sekarang bagaimana jika anda menciptakan DK di zaman Cata? Anda melihat Arthas, kemudian melihat byk wilayah2 yg berubah karena Cata... Teriak aja ama si Arthas, hey ini zaman Cata, napa lo masi hidup?

Expansion Cata, seperti yg telah dikabarkan, akan merombak habis2an wilayah Vanilla WoW. Tapi hasil rombakan tsbt dapat dilihat oleh player lv 1, bahkan mengubah banyak quest flow lv rendah. Bukankah ini berarti mengubah sejarah? Bukan hanya pada DK saja, tapi bagi semua class dan race.

Hal ini juga saya diskusikan dengan forum luar, di http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=127995.4&p=2059129. Nick saya di sana Impmaster..

Think abut it... and read my theory there..

[aldyman]

stuju gan..

mending wotlk selamanya <ampe ampm bisa ngejer offi akakkaakak>

[mugen]

Sebelumnya akan saya jelaskan mengenai timeline dari sudut pandang seorang pemain. Saya beri contoh saja, yaitu DK. Kalian akan melihat Arthas di Ebon Hold, bagaimanapun expansionnya, bahkan setelah Arthas dikatakan mati oleh lore sekarang. Nah, hal ini berarti bagi seorag DK lv 55, Arthas masih hidup. Lv indicates timeline.

Sekarang bagaimana jika anda menciptakan DK di zaman Cata? Anda melihat Arthas, kemudian melihat byk wilayah2 yg berubah karena Cata... Teriak aja ama si Arthas, hey ini zaman Cata, napa lo masi hidup?

Expansion Cata, seperti yg telah dikabarkan, akan merombak habis2an wilayah Vanilla WoW. Tapi hasil rombakan tsbt dapat dilihat oleh player lv 1, bahkan mengubah banyak quest flow lv rendah. Bukankah ini berarti mengubah sejarah? Bukan hanya pada DK saja, tapi bagi semua class dan race.

Hal ini juga saya diskusikan dengan forum luar, di http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=127995.4&p=2059129. Nick saya di sana Impmaster..

Think abut it... and read my theory there..

kalo menurut timeline DK mah susah ngeliatnya sekarang
harus tanya sama yang maen alpha/beta cata
tanyain apa Qnya berubah atau tidak
timeline chain Q DK itu terjadi di awal2 WoLK
lalu sekarang ada datangnya DK goblin sama DK worgen di cata
neh ene yang namanya canon kalo di inter(bukan meriam)

[Imp_Master]

kalo menurut timeline DK mah susah ngeliatnya sekarang
harus tanya sama yang maen alpha/beta cata
tanyain apa Qnya berubah atau tidak
timeline chain Q DK itu terjadi di awal2 WoLK
lalu sekarang ada datangnya DK goblin sama DK worgen di cata
neh ene yang namanya canon kalo di inter(bukan meriam)

Ho oh, makanya ni teori gw... moga masuk akal... (sorry dlm bhs ingg, males nerjemahin balik)

The Caverns of Time sent a message to Dalaran, that they were having a serious problem. While Lich King is the most dangerous threat at the time, all forces kept their focus on the attack to Icecrown Citadel, and ignore the message.

After the Lich King's defeat, they send troops to the Caverns of Time (perhaps the phased one), and find out that the problem has become more terrible. The time line has become very unstable. The period in Azeroth of several years ago (Vanilla period) is (was?) being attack by some kind of catastrophe. They then leave their current time (WotLK period) and enter the time where the problem is heppening (Vanilla period) through one of the Caverns of Time.

I still can't guess who or what caused this catastrophe, but the clear thing is, the troops fight it. However, they can't prevent the Barrens to be split into two, Wetlands to be destroyed, and Ashenvale to be hit as well. At least, Azeroth do not extinct. But it is a temporary victory.

They get back to their own time period (WotLK), and find out that many things in the present version of Azeroth have changed.

The history of Azeroth has been altered forever.

And the worst thing of all, the threat, that was temporary defeated, is ready to rise again...

From my the above theory, it will make sense that:

1. The characters created during / after Cataclysm can see Cataclysm since level 1(As blizzard stated). They're the people whose past and memories are altered by the events mentioned above.

2. Goblins and worgens joined the Horde / Alliance in Vanilla period, in the altered history. So in-game, it seems like they will level up until level 20, get out from their phased area, and join the Horde / Alliance.

3. Darion Mograine says to every Death Knights, including worgens and goblins, in the quest "Where Kings Walk" or "Warchief's Blessing", that they were once part of Horde / Alliance, and will always be. Death knights join Horde / Alliance prior to TBC, so it indicates that goblins and worgens death knights were part of H / A, when they were killed and raised to be death knights.

4. Thrall and Cairne will likely join the event above and save many Horde children during the catastrophe. Perhaps in Thrall absense, Garrosh declare himself as a new warchief. It also makes sense that only orc and taurens will stay in the inner ring of Orgrimmar. The orcs are likely the ones who approve Garrosh, and the taurens are likely Grimtotem taurens. There will be no troll, for the darkspear trolls are generally loyal to Thrall.

5. The changes in Azeroth continents should take months of catastrophe, but it's likely to happen too suddenly if you consider it happens during WotLK. I got a hint from Cataclysm cinematic in the part where Barrens is suddenly... ZAPP... split into two and is full of canyons of lava, as well as Ashenvale and Wetlands... Just imagine if I travel through timeline, to the past, and kill you when you were a baby, won't you be...Zappp.. vanish? My theory can explain it as well. Vanilla is merely a set back...

And...... there will be many phasing along levelling from lv 1 to 58. I think lv 80-85 player won't meet the low level players in the same zone. Yeah it's the same zone, but different timeline. About Cata is seen since lv 1 thing won't be a problem. Perhaps some monsters will only be seen by lv 80-85 character.

Well, I'm still afraid all the above things are totally wrong...

[Xyzzyx]

iya perubahan yang paling besar di cataclysm menurut gw adlah pembagian area lvling, barrens d bagi 2, trus camp taurajo di kuasain ally, terus azshara jadi di turunin area levelnya

yah kalo pas bikin DK di jaman cataclysm, ganti aja arthas nya ama lich king berikutnya tu sapa namanya, gw lupa, yang badannya kebakar2 tuh..

kalo voljin gmna ya? kan thrall udh ga jadi pemimpin horde lagi, d ganti ama sapa gitu yah gw lupa..

[mugen]

yup
untuk zaman timeline cata
lichking di pegang sama bolvar fordragon
voljin pindah ke echo island(sekarang tuh pulau kecil di pojok kanan bawah durotar) yang nante jadi ibu kota para troll
horde di pegang sama garrosh karena thrallnya megang posisi pemimpin di earthen ring(komunitas shaman terkuat kek cenarion circle)

[Imp_Master]

iya perubahan yang paling besar di cataclysm menurut gw adlah pembagian area lvling, barrens d bagi 2, trus camp taurajo di kuasain ally, terus azshara jadi di turunin area levelnya

yah kalo pas bikin DK di jaman cataclysm, ganti aja arthas nya ama lich king berikutnya tu sapa namanya, gw lupa, yang badannya kebakar2 tuh..

kalo voljin gmna ya? kan thrall udh ga jadi pemimpin horde lagi, d ganti ama sapa gitu yah gw lupa..

Lich King baru tu Bolvar... he is not a bad guy.. and do not create new DK.. never been in Ebon Hold.. always stay in Ice crown Citadel to control Scourge from getting much dangerous
level mengindikasikan timeline, jadi klo lo lv 55, lo masi di zaman Vanilla... jadi Arthas blom mati... apalage Illidan ama Kael... lo masuk zaman TBC di lv 58, masuk zaman WotLK di lv 68, dst...
Tapi klo lv 1 uda ngeliat Cataclysm? Kan seharusnya masih di zaman Vanilla?
Vanilla is merely a set back. Only my theory can explain it until blizzard says the truth...

[gil4ng_demonic]

aku lihat trailer cataclysm yang aku lihat LK belum mati dengan kata lain masih jadi ancaman.
kan ceritanya ketika ally dan horde lagi seru-serunya lawan LK terjadilah cataclysm.
tapi di WOTLK LK di kalahkan kan.

bingung samapai sini

[Imp_Master]

aku lihat trailer cataclysm yang aku lihat LK belum mati dengan kata lain masih jadi ancaman.
kan ceritanya ketika ally dan horde lagi seru-serunya lawan LK terjadilah cataclysm.
tapi di WOTLK LK di kalahkan kan.

bingung samapai sini

Coba baca teori gw di atas.... gimana? hehe...

[gil4ng_demonic]

Coba baca teori gw di atas.... gimana? hehe...

berarti teorinya catalism terjadi sebelum wotlk.

[mugen]

gwa lebih setuju kalo cata itu di 3/4 cerita dr WOLK

[Imp_Master]

gwa lebih setuju kalo cata itu di 3/4 cerita dr WOLK

Gw dulu jg brpikir gitu.. Tapi bagi pemain yg mulai di zaman Cata? mulai lv 1 uda terjadi Cataclysm... ampe lv 58 masuk zaman TBC (???) Jadi gw brkesimpulan ini adalah masalah timeline...

Teori gw kan ada menyangkut WotLK... Ketidakstabilitas dari timeline terjadi saat peperangan melawan LK sedang berlangsung...
Jadi goblin & worgen masuk H/A di zaman Vanilla. Gitu...

[Imp_Master]

berarti teorinya catalism terjadi sebelum wotlk.

Tepatnya di zaman Vanilla.
Vanilla is merely a set back...

[Totong]

ga ngerti gw ...
sumpah ...

[gil4ng_demonic]

Tepatnya di zaman Vanilla.
Vanilla is merely a set back...

kalo di pikir-pikir bener juga.
timeline kacau juga kalo cata itu sesudah wotlk