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    parry -> ASPD nambah skitar brapa %, makanya TB DK sebaiknya 2H, biar ASPD nya nambah, tau lah DK kan parry = LOL. ntah apa ide orang2 TB DK dual wield, ASPD da cepet gitu. kalo ngambil stats, jauh lebih untung 2H jg, lebih ofensif.

    defense -> 540 CAP, TAK BISA DITOLERANSI masuk TOC10 DEF < 540, kick.beban buat healer.
    total avoidance (dodge parry block)-> harusnya kalo full gear tb, dah hampir 50%.
    Hit -> 264 tapi kurang2in aja ama best assumption raid bareng munkin spriest, taruh aja 160an.
    expertise 24 kcuali paladin krn skillnya ampir magic smua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidelf View Post
    parry -> ASPD nambah skitar brapa %, makanya TB DK sebaiknya 2H, biar ASPD nya nambah, tau lah DK kan parry = LOL. ntah apa ide orang2 TB DK dual wield, ASPD da cepet gitu. kalo ngambil stats, jauh lebih untung 2H jg, lebih ofensif.

    defense -> 540 CAP, TAK BISA DITOLERANSI masuk TOC10 DEF < 540, kick.beban buat healer.
    total avoidance (dodge parry block)-> harusnya kalo full gear tb, dah hampir 50%.
    Hit -> 264 tapi kurang2in aja ama best assumption raid bareng munkin spriest, taruh aja 160an.
    expertise 24 kcuali paladin krn skillnya ampir magic smua.
    brarti kalo paly hit cap nya sama kek caster dnk, skitar 17%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidelf View Post
    parry -> ASPD nambah skitar brapa %, makanya TB DK sebaiknya 2H, biar ASPD nya nambah, tau lah DK kan parry = LOL. ntah apa ide orang2 TB DK dual wield, ASPD da cepet gitu. kalo ngambil stats, jauh lebih untung 2H jg, lebih ofensif.

    defense -> 540 CAP, TAK BISA DITOLERANSI masuk TOC10 DEF < 540, kick.beban buat healer.
    total avoidance (dodge parry block)-> harusnya kalo full gear tb, dah hampir 50%.
    Hit -> 264 tapi kurang2in aja ama best assumption raid bareng munkin spriest, taruh aja 160an.
    expertise 24 kcuali paladin krn skillnya ampir magic smua.
    ouh berarti DK saia = LOL ya T__T
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    gw rasa kalo buat warior paladin dk lu pada ngincer avoidance 50% unbuff ya.. kalo full buff naik brp ? 5% ? jadi 55 kah?

    oya gw mo nambain doang buat druid.
    stats gw pribadi sih..
    HP : 45.400
    Def : guna kah ?
    Parry : can't
    Block : Can't
    Dodge : 35.5%

    ini stats unbuff.
    buat yang ngejek druid tb maen stamina trs jd beban ke healer karna dodge 35% doang gt.
    gw mo bilang, LU SALAH !
    agi benefit ke dodge hampir sama kek dodge rating. beda skitar 0.0xx
    jadi kalo full buff gua aja da 58%.. kalo trinket jd 63% dah..
    lagian ada savage defense yang hampir slalu kluar (tiap crit keluar coi)
    crit gw sendiri sekitar 43% unbuff. jadi y kluar mlulu dah. Absorbnya sekitar 2000-2700 keknya.
    lagipula ada sisi baiknya lagi..
    Dps druid tank itu > Other Tank. gw sih 6k dps di twins.. selalu.
    kalo difight lain 4k+ lah.. jd ya lumayan gt bantu2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidelf View Post
    parry -> ASPD nambah skitar brapa %, makanya TB DK sebaiknya 2H, biar ASPD nya nambah, tau lah DK kan parry = LOL. ntah apa ide orang2 TB DK dual wield, ASPD da cepet gitu. kalo ngambil stats, jauh lebih untung 2H jg, lebih ofensif.

    defense -> 540 CAP, TAK BISA DITOLERANSI masuk TOC10 DEF < 540, kick.beban buat healer.
    total avoidance (dodge parry block)-> harusnya kalo full gear tb, dah hampir 50%.
    Hit -> 264 tapi kurang2in aja ama best assumption raid bareng munkin spriest, taruh aja 160an.
    expertise 24 kcuali paladin krn skillnya ampir magic smua.

    def cap emang rata2 540, itu kalo geared dari equip aja udah ampe tumpah2 kok (g ada gem def rate def 572 dgn sendirinya)

    Hit cap bener emang segitu, tapi kata wowwiki py 230 aja asumsi di party ada draenei, kalo horde kan g py tu,, saya si 270 soalnya g bisa aja di pasin jadi 264, expertise saya ikut hard capnya 10.5%, itu skitar 42 expertise



    btw temen saya ada yang udah tes ternyata di server tercinta diminishing return g jalan, maaf kalo ternyata emang sayanya yang ketinggalan berita.
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    btw, hit 263. kecuali dual wield.. 722. CMIIW
    Last edited by Fortruth-; 17-06-10 at 02:16.

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    draenei rascial ga pernah jalan oeeeee
    diminishing return taunt maksudny? ato diminishing return CC kk? beda lho itungannya

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    Quote Originally Posted by g0nd3 View Post
    draenei rascial ga pernah jalan oeeeee
    diminishing return taunt maksudny? ato diminishing return CC kk? beda lho itungannya
    diminishing return dari dodge dan parry kaks
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballinst View Post
    utk unholy sendiri sih lebih ke mompa dmg caster, sekaligus buat AoE fest imo
    wandering plague FTW! permaghoulnya krg tau buat apa, emg diambil ya itu talent? @_@

    betewe, ngedump runic power mxdny opo? ngabisin ato nambahin? @_@ maap pertanyaan konyol
    gw pribadi lebih seneng blood sih, secara kalo bisa nambahin darah sendiri = healer ga perlu capek2 amat

    my stat (2h weapon):

    HP: 39,2k
    Defense: 556
    Avoidance (Dodge+Par): 52%
    Unbuff.

    gila orang2 kok defense pada gede2 sih
    makan apaan sih
    dump= buang maksudnya hehe
    frost? tinggal frost strike
    unholy? tinggal deathcoil
    blood? dunno

    IMO ga gt bagus buang2 GCD buat sebuah deathcoil berdamage 1500an (blood)
    dulu si gw pas tb blood, tunggu rune cd smua dl baru spam deathcoil smpe rune fresh lg
    dl gw paling suka TB frost/blood (kyk yg dps, cm ambil smpe frost strike), tapi di modif dikit, yg buat defensivenya dicolok, yg offensivenya tinggalin sbagian, rune tap dapet, mark of blood dapet, frost strike dapet
    Last edited by marchorizon; 17-06-10 at 03:21.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marchorizon View Post
    dump= buang maksudnya hehe
    frost? tinggal frost strike
    unholy? tinggal deathcoil
    blood? dunno

    IMO ga gt bagus buang2 GCD buat sebuah deathcoil berdamage 1500an (blood)
    dulu si gw pas tb blood, tunggu rune cd smua dl baru spam deathcoil smpe rune fresh lg
    dl gw paling suka TB frost/blood (kyk yg dps, cm ambil smpe frost strike), tapi di modif dikit, yg buat defensivenya dicolok, yg offensivenya tinggalin sbagian, rune tap dapet, mark of blood dapet, frost strike dapet
    rune strike oe @_@
    RP abis di situ gw soalnya rune strike non stop, tanpa scent of blood kerasa banget itu RP seret..
    jadi TB ngapain DC - -a..threatna susah, kcuali TB manja pake rogue - -"

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    gw paling demen kalo kena touch of jaraxxus
    tinggal nyalain AMS, trs spam rune strike ama death coil jg ga bakal abis RP gw
    sayang cm 5 dtk

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballinst View Post
    yep, itu baru 2h-wep, klo 1h 1h mgkn bisa lebi gede lg
    Wew,ini build krn pilihan atau persiapan ICC? (penasaran)
    Tp mana2 juga,mantap bos!


    Quote Originally Posted by Fortruth- View Post
    gw rasa kalo buat warior paladin dk lu pada ngincer avoidance 50% unbuff ya.. kalo full buff naik brp ? 5% ? jadi 55 kah?

    oya gw mo nambain doang buat druid.
    stats gw pribadi sih..
    HP : 45.400
    Def : guna kah ?
    Parry : can't
    Block : Can't
    Dodge : 35.5%

    ini stats unbuff.
    buat yang ngejek druid tb maen stamina trs jd beban ke healer karna dodge 35% doang gt.
    gw mo bilang, LU SALAH !
    agi benefit ke dodge hampir sama kek dodge rating. beda skitar 0.0xx
    jadi kalo full buff gua aja da 58%.. kalo trinket jd 63% dah..
    lagian ada savage defense yang hampir slalu kluar (tiap crit keluar coi)
    crit gw sendiri sekitar 43% unbuff. jadi y kluar mlulu dah. Absorbnya sekitar 2000-2700 keknya.
    lagipula ada sisi baiknya lagi..
    Dps druid tank itu > Other Tank. gw sih 6k dps di twins.. selalu.
    kalo difight lain 4k+ lah.. jd ya lumayan gt bantu2
    Gue ngga tau yah..ngga ada yg salah dng Druid TB atau class TB main STM,yg salah k'lo prioritas lain (talent,armor,avoidance) tdk seimbang dng Stamina. K'lo HP 45,400 dng dodge 35% UNBUFF itu mah dah gila kali. Ready for ICC,bos..mantap2!

    Spoiler untuk def rat 4 druid :

    Defense Rating – Gives a chance for the mob to miss us – (actually starts to pass Agility as a pure avoidance stat at around 50% dodge due to Diminishing returns) Agility is still a better all around stat due to the armor and crit rating it provides up till around 60% dodge

    1 Defense Rating = 0.008% dodge and 0.008% chance to be missed and 0.008% reduced chance to be crit (Crit reduction not needed for PvE if you have SotF )
    122.96 Defense Rating = 1% chance to dodge and 1% chance to be missed and 1% reduced chance to be crit (Crit reduction not needed for PvE if you have SotF )

    1 Def Rating = 0.64 Dodge Rating (counting misses as dodges)


    Quote Originally Posted by Fortruth- View Post
    btw, hit 263. kecuali dual wield.. 722. CMIIW
    263 specific buat druid cintah..
    Last edited by Kerbull; 17-06-10 at 09:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidelf View Post
    parry -> ASPD nambah skitar brapa %, makanya TB DK sebaiknya 2H, biar ASPD nya nambah, tau lah DK kan parry = LOL. ntah apa ide orang2 TB DK dual wield, ASPD da cepet gitu. kalo ngambil stats, jauh lebih untung 2H jg, lebih ofensif.

    defense -> 540 CAP, TAK BISA DITOLERANSI masuk TOC10 DEF < 540, kick.beban buat healer.
    total avoidance (dodge parry block)-> harusnya kalo full gear tb, dah hampir 50%.
    Hit -> 264 tapi kurang2in aja ama best assumption raid bareng munkin spriest, taruh aja 160an.
    expertise 24 kcuali paladin krn skillnya ampir magic smua.

    maksud e ? 2 hand lebih offensive priben ? lebih gede damage ?
    dk gw eq acak2an gak jelas aja oblirate pake dual weild main hand 6 rebu off hand 4 rebu (talent treat thalsanian ambil) ini pake gear def rat lagi .. blom gw test kl pake 2 koltira yg buat dps yg nge buff 180 str ... kurang offensif gimane ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawanmawan View Post
    rune strike oe @_@
    RP abis di situ gw soalnya rune strike non stop, tanpa scent of blood kerasa banget itu RP seret..
    jadi TB ngapain DC - -a..threatna susah, kcuali TB manja pake rogue - -"
    gw sampe lupa ada skill yg namanya rune strike -_- aheuhaeu kembalikan dkku


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    mending delete warnya kwkwkwkw dari pada DKnya
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