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    wkwkkwkwkwkw
    @atas mo flame tuh
    akakkakakkakka (gomen2 kk jeg^^)

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    weQ si jeg nantangin perang... >.<
    tp asik juga nih perang antar job :P
    mau dunk kapan2 kk jeg :P

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    pally lwn pally
    ampun dah >,<
    cukup 2 kali ngalaminnya
    capenya minta ampun (maklum wa cupu sih T_T)

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    wah kk avis...skr pally ama pally bisa 1menit aja lho duelnya...malahan ngga sampe...
    ayo main kk aviss...
    pindah jkt aja wes...main lg :P

    eh mau tanya..itu tengkar2 attitude2 apa sih? (gw attitude aja g tau artinya T_T)

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    /hello kenistaan
    /hug kenistaan
    /duel kenistaan

    hohoho....

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    attitude=kelakuan ^^
    tgl 21 okt wa balik ke jkt lagi >,<
    i miss u all T_T

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    kk GM tolongin dunx bwat char adek kuw paly gagal yg ngk bsa redemption

    id nightkids
    char baelazum
    Q nya error sejak dulu(langsung 2nd n slanjutna error teruz), n ampe karang masih ngk bsa..... tolongin om GM dmanapun anda brada

    pliz.... tolong liatin kasian adek kuw ngk bsa redemption, n domelin mulu ama yg laen gara2 ngk bsa redemption, ampe nangis2 kmaren ini dkatain sama player ngk jelas >_<

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    iya bos gaptek

    nick : cahblitar, suparmin, ama pakdemu juga lom bisa res katanya sih questnya ga ada

    thx bos agus ^^

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    WOY BWAT PALLY YG BLOM BISA RES ALIAS PALLY GAGAL nih wa kasi solusinyabukan del char:P)
    1.bwat horde : q line bwat redemption emang dulu di npc pally trainer di SM cuma stlh patch 2.1.3 npc yg memberikan q redemption diganti jd npc pally trainer di falconwing square.lupa dimana falconwing?liat map aja
    3.bwat pally ally wa ga tau soalnya ga bikin pally di ally
    *mess with the best lose like the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by aval0n View Post
    capek banget aku jelasinnya
    pos sama link yg aku kasih dibaca ga sih?
    http://www.wowwiki.com/Stat_comparison#STR_vs_AGI

    yg aku maksud itu bukan dps yg tampak di stat window
    tapi dps asli
    dps dalam artian damage yg dilakukan dalam satuan waktu atau yg diukur pakai damage meter

    kalau wowwiki itu menyebutnya Current DPS/white dps untuk dps asli
    sedangkan dps yg tampak di stat window itu di sebut shown dps

    aku cuma pake rumus yg ada di wowwiki
    current white DPS is equal to Shown DPS * (1 + critical hit percentage)

    jadi misalnya kalau dps yg tampak di window 100
    dengan crit 10%
    maka White DPS = 100 * (1.10) = 110

    kalau menurutmu masih salah bisa melakukan protes pada wowwiki langsung


    maaf juga jika ada yg tersinggung

    jesss (kluar asap dr kepala)...... Pusing nan bingung, haha. ::Jumpy::
    klo gw mah asal socket full enchant full hajar bleh. ::hahaha::
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    Quote Originally Posted by aval0n View Post
    capek banget aku jelasinnya
    pos sama link yg aku kasih dibaca ga sih?
    http://www.wowwiki.com/Stat_comparison#STR_vs_AGI

    yg aku maksud itu bukan dps yg tampak di stat window
    tapi dps asli
    dps dalam artian damage yg dilakukan dalam satuan waktu atau yg diukur pakai damage meter

    kalau wowwiki itu menyebutnya Current DPS/white dps untuk dps asli
    sedangkan dps yg tampak di stat window itu di sebut shown dps

    aku cuma pake rumus yg ada di wowwiki
    current white DPS is equal to Shown DPS * (1 + critical hit percentage)

    jadi misalnya kalau dps yg tampak di window 100
    dengan crit 10%
    maka White DPS = 100 * (1.10) = 110

    kalau menurutmu masih salah bisa melakukan protes pada wowwiki langsung


    maaf juga jika ada yg tersinggung


    wuihh ternyata masih nyambung... kirain udah drown T_T

    postingan kk tidak salah... tapi untuk paladin agi ga berguna untuk naekin dps
    baik white dps maupun shown dps (judul thread nya masih pally toh?)
    alasannya:
    menaikkan agi untuk crit di lvl 70 sangat ga masuk akal, lebih baik mencari item dgn increase crit rating.


    dari http://www.wowwiki.com/Stat_comparison yang bagian str vs agi
    mari kita baca sama2 n ini kutipannya:
    ----BEGIN------
    When considering the effects of str and agi on pure white DPS, Str increases DPS by a linear amount (1 Str yielding about .14 DPS), while Agi increases the chance to crit (and thus DPS) by a factor. In practise this means that depending on the current damage output, there's an equilibrium point at which the DPS increase from Agi is higher than the increase from Str.

    ^The above statement is wrong, strength yields ~0.14*critchance in dps, while agi gives agi*whitedps/100*agility needed per crit. Therefore this whole article is wrong since strength scales with agility damage just as well as agility scales with strength damage.
    ....DST DST DST
    ---END-------

    tuh kan wowwiki aja bilang ga ada tuh ekuilibrium poin dimana agi better than str.. wong wowwiki aja sampe ngasih quote begitu di artikelnya.. supaya jgn sampe ada yg salah tanggep.

    gini aja deh:
    pally retri nyari str apa agi sih?
    for lvl70 pally: str = 2ap, agi = 0ap
    trus lvl70 pally butuh 25agi untuk 1%crit chance
    kalo gw sih pasti incer str lah... blom lagi talent pally DIVINE STRENGTH wuih

    1lagi:
    white dps itu kan istilah yang dipakai UNTUK mencari itung2an statistik mendapatkan equilibrium point tadi (yang sudah pasti ga bakalan ada di paladin), di game aslinya nda ada lahhhh white dps... !-_-


    Piss.. selanjutnya terserah masing2 pemirsa dah...

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    sekali lagi saya kutip dari http://www.wowwiki.com/Stat_comparison

    ---BEGIN---

    STR vs AGI

    When considering the effects of str and agi on pure white DPS, Str increases DPS by a linear amount (1 Str yielding about .14 DPS), while Agi increases the chance to crit (and thus DPS) by a factor. In practise this means that depending on the current damage output, there's an equilibrium point at which the DPS increase from Agi is higher than the increase from Str.

    ^The above statement is wrong, strength yields ~0.14*critchance in dps, while agi gives agi*whitedps/100*agility needed per crit. Therefore this whole article is wrong since strength scales with agility damage just as well as agility scales with strength damage...

    ---END---

    there is no white dps honey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aval0n View Post
    gini lho maksudku
    kan critical itu 2x damage
    walaupun stat agi ga nambah dps secara langsung tapi dengan menambah crit change otomatis damage yg dilakukan dalam suatu waktu nambah juga kan

    misalnya dps 400 dengan crit change 10%
    berarti kan real dps nya sekitar 440

    misalnya dps 400 dengan crit change 100%
    berarti kan real dps nya 800 kan
    oohh plz spare me

    1. "crit chance" bukan "crit change"

    2. there is no crit change or crit chance 100% (kecuali or except warrior)

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