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    Default ask: 2 vanguard then the block damage could be?

    i just play dota and see ursa buy 2 vanguard, even his damage reduction only 39% but honestly he is hard to kill. does that mean the percentage of blocked the damage increased?

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    okay news flash!!!!!!!!!
    2 vanguard aren't stack!!!!!!!!!
    totally not stack
    the block isn't stack
    if you have 2 vanguard then the second vanguard doesn't give you any blocking improvement, but your hp regen and bonus hp is stack is that clear?
    (sepengetahuan gw yaaa soalnya waktu 6.43 keluar gw k forum luar negeri ternyata vanguard 2 gak efek sama sekali)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinryuu View Post
    okay news flash!!!!!!!!!
    2 vanguard aren't stack!!!!!!!!!
    totally not stack
    the block isn't stack
    if you have 2 vanguard then the second vanguard doesn't give you any blocking improvement, but your hp regen and bonus hp is stack is that clear?
    (sepengetahuan gw yaaa soalnya waktu 6.43 keluar gw k forum luar negeri ternyata vanguard 2 gak efek sama sekali)
    NO!!
    its stack.. baik damage block maupun regen hpnya...

    tapi habis diitung2... 1 vanguard lebih efective dari 2 stout... dan nyaris sama dengan 3 stout... klo cuma nyari damage block doang.. mending bli aja 3 stout...

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    First of all, there's this thread called 'DotA Mechanical Help' where you can ask about this kind of thing. (promosi)

    Second, since I'm being generous, I'm gonna give you a service just for free.

    Vanguard itu stack satu sama laen, tapi cman bisa ngeblock skali (klo loe punya 5 vanguard, dmg ynag bisa diblok yah cman 35). Jadi klo 2 vanguard gimana chancenya?

    2 vanguard
    65% + (35% x 65%) = 87.75%
    3 vanguard
    65% + (35% x 65%) + (35% x 35% x 65%)= 95.7...%

    dsb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Ste12 View Post
    First of all, there's this thread called 'DotA Mechanical Help' where you can ask about this kind of thing. (promosi)

    Second, since I'm being generous, I'm gonna give you a service just for free.

    Vanguard itu stack satu sama laen, tapi cman bisa ngeblock skali (klo loe punya 5 vanguard, dmg ynag bisa diblok yah cman 35). Jadi klo 2 vanguard gimana chancenya?

    2 vanguard
    65% + (35% x 65%) = 87.75%
    3 vanguard
    65% + (35% x 65%) + (35% x 35% x 65%)= 95.7...%

    dsb.
    yes... absolutely correct

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    Tanya M4Ste12, kalo 1 vanguard kan bisa tahan damage 45-65 (mohon diperbaiki bila salah).
    Nah artinya kalo damage diluar itu tidak ke-block ya ?

    Yang jadi pemikiran gw, di mid game aja damage hero itu dah lebih dari 100 yang artinya kalopun pake vanguard 2 tetap tembus.
    Jadi vanguard iniefektif tuk tahan hit dari creep ya ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Ste12 View Post
    First of all, there's this thread called 'DotA Mechanical Help' where you can ask about this kind of thing. (promosi)

    Second, since I'm being generous, I'm gonna give you a service just for free.

    Vanguard itu stack satu sama laen, tapi cman bisa ngeblock skali (klo loe punya 5 vanguard, dmg ynag bisa diblok yah cman 35). Jadi klo 2 vanguard gimana chancenya?

    2 vanguard
    65% + (35% x 65%) = 87.75%
    3 vanguard
    65% + (35% x 65%) + (35% x 35% x 65%)= 95.7...%

    dsb.

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    block attack stack tp regen HP tambah cpt.jd sama aja 1 vanguard

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    Coba aja Bristleback pasang 2 vanguard + 1 tarras

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    Tanya M4Ste12, kalo 1 vanguard kan bisa tahan damage 45-65 (mohon diperbaiki bila salah).
    Nah artinya kalo damage diluar itu tidak ke-block ya ?

    Yang jadi pemikiran gw, di mid game aja damage hero itu dah lebih dari 100 yang artinya kalopun pake vanguard 2 tetap tembus.
    Jadi vanguard iniefektif tuk tahan hit dari creep ya ?
    vanguard ngeblok sebanyak 35 damage. dia bukan cman isa ngeblok damage segitu-an, tapi dia ngurangin damage fisik yang dikasih ke dia sebanyak 35. jadi misalnya di midgame attack orang 100 ke dia, dia terima cman 75 (trus baru dikurang armor)

    dan vanguard emank lebih cenderung buat nahan creep ato image2 gitu (yang attacknya kecil)
    block attack stack tp regen HP tambah cpt.jd sama aja 1 vanguard
    maksudnya apa sich?

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    waduw....



    gw rasa sih nambah ya... coz wa pake axe 2 vanguard kek na chace buat ngeblock damage lebih gede tuch.. (chance nyaloch...)
    still the same guy you know, literally

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    so. is it useful to buy 2 vanguard? just for fun..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Error View Post
    i just play dota and see ursa buy 2 vanguard, even his damage reduction only 39% but honestly he is hard to kill. does that mean the percentage of blocked the damage increased?
    I just played dota and saw ursa bought 2 vanguard.Although his damage reduction only 39% but honestly he was hard to be killed.Does that mean the percentage of the blocked damage stacked?

    Karena di atas sudah dikoreksi ama si M4Ste12 makanya gw koreksi yang laen aja.
    Maklum kurang kerjaan

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    I just played dota and saw ursa bought 2 vanguard.Although his damage reduction only 39% but honestly he was hard to be killed.Does that mean the percentage of the blocked damage stacked?

    Karena di atas sudah dikoreksi ama si M4Ste12 makanya gw koreksi yang laen aja.
    Maklum kurang kerjaan
    LOL
    so. is it useful to buy 2 vanguard? just for fun..?
    HELL NO
    bahkan 1 vanguard jg gak dianjurkan...

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    setaw gw vanguard kepake klo lo mo maen jungling deh.
    tapi gw sering juga sih bikin soalnya gw cinta banget jungling
    lagian bos TS belajar simple past dong ah..


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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Ste12 View Post
    LOL

    HELL NO
    bahkan 1 vanguard jg gak dianjurkan...
    so kesimpulannya...ngga guna y kk maste??

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