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    iya arpen ga perlu di paladin damage no 1 nya seal. arpen itu ada pun di equip ga diitung banyak2 di pally

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    Alo brother n sister AMPM WoW WotLK..
    ane mau sekedar nanya nih..
    Nick Ilhampaly Job Paladin Protection
    Stat ::
    Stamina :: 3402 = 40.774Health (No Buff)
    Armor 42.864 (Item Heroic ICC10 ada 2, Organ H[2128 Armor] + Gargoyle Spit Bracer H[1869 Armor] + Aura Devo )
    No Aura Devo, Armor :: 41.057
    Deff :: 553
    Dodge :: 28.37% (-20 % Ketika masuk ICC) >> 8.37% dodge
    Parry :: 23.42%
    Block :: 11.12%
    Expertise :: 12 (Reduces chance to be dodged or parried 3.00%)

    Mau nanya nih..
    Sekarang kan ICC Parry / Dodge / Block dah ga ngaruh d Bos2 ICC25H.. Soal y da debuff yg ngurangin 20% Dodge..
    kalau buat paladin protection Minimal ICC25N Armor berapa? (No Buff, cuman Aura Devo)
    Terus tu expertise sya 12 ckup pa kurang ?? (da yg bilang 26 / 25 expertise pas y)

    Tambahan :: Armor ane jd 45.900 Full Buff Raid ICC25N, sedangkan ICC10N-H Full Buff dpet y 44.867..

    masih rada bingung ini soal expertise y..

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    armor segitu *mustinya* udah bisa ke 25H kok, expertise di palprot gk harus 26, yang penting hit rating mendekati cap biar taunt gk miss.

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    mw tanya donk tentang palhol pvp masi agak kagok maennya soalnya char gw rata2 DPS semua . . timing yg tepat utk mengcover temen dan menstun itu kapan ya sering salah timing hiks. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilhampaly42 View Post
    Alo brother n sister AMPM WoW WotLK..
    ane mau sekedar nanya nih..
    Nick Ilhampaly Job Paladin Protection
    Stat ::
    Stamina :: 3402 = 40.774Health (No Buff)
    Armor 42.864 (Item Heroic ICC10 ada 2, Organ H[2128 Armor] + Gargoyle Spit Bracer H[1869 Armor] + Aura Devo )
    No Aura Devo, Armor :: 41.057
    Deff :: 553
    Dodge :: 28.37% (-20 % Ketika masuk ICC) >> 8.37% dodge
    Parry :: 23.42%
    Block :: 11.12%
    Expertise :: 12 (Reduces chance to be dodged or parried 3.00%)

    Mau nanya nih..
    Sekarang kan ICC Parry / Dodge / Block dah ga ngaruh d Bos2 ICC25H.. Soal y da debuff yg ngurangin 20% Dodge..
    kalau buat paladin protection Minimal ICC25N Armor berapa? (No Buff, cuman Aura Devo)
    Terus tu expertise sya 12 ckup pa kurang ?? (da yg bilang 26 / 25 expertise pas y)

    Tambahan :: Armor ane jd 45.900 Full Buff Raid ICC25N, sedangkan ICC10N-H Full Buff dpet y 44.867..

    masih rada bingung ini soal expertise y..

    ini mah sudah istimewa kalo menurut ane sih...expertise sebaiknya 26 atau mendekati lah (20 keatas)...bener kata sikhan, hit rating gak boleh dibawah caps karena bahaya kalo sampe taunt miss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adhietaz View Post
    mw tanya donk tentang palhol pvp masi agak kagok maennya soalnya char gw rata2 DPS semua . . timing yg tepat utk mengcover temen dan menstun itu kapan ya sering salah timing hiks. .
    banyakin praktek, kalo di jelasin susah jg. yang pasti di stun kalo hp musuh ada yang dibawah setengah atau lagi gk los (teori doang)

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    Quote Originally Posted by adhietaz View Post
    mw tanya donk tentang palhol pvp masi agak kagok maennya soalnya char gw rata2 DPS semua . . timing yg tepat utk mengcover temen dan menstun itu kapan ya sering salah timing hiks. .

    kalo mo stun saran ane kalo ente di kejar rogue ato Hp musuh antara 10k-13k dan usahain trinket musuh udah kepake, ga tau caranya pokoknya paksa pake trinket
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilhampaly42 View Post
    Alo brother n sister AMPM WoW WotLK..
    ane mau sekedar nanya nih..
    Nick Ilhampaly Job Paladin Protection
    Stat ::
    Stamina :: 3402 = 40.774Health (No Buff)
    Armor 42.864 (Item Heroic ICC10 ada 2, Organ H[2128 Armor] + Gargoyle Spit Bracer H[1869 Armor] + Aura Devo )
    No Aura Devo, Armor :: 41.057
    Deff :: 553
    Dodge :: 28.37% (-20 % Ketika masuk ICC) >> 8.37% dodge
    Parry :: 23.42%
    Block :: 11.12%
    Expertise :: 12 (Reduces chance to be dodged or parried 3.00%)

    Mau nanya nih..
    Sekarang kan ICC Parry / Dodge / Block dah ga ngaruh d Bos2 ICC25H.. Soal y da debuff yg ngurangin 20% Dodge..
    kalau buat paladin protection Minimal ICC25N Armor berapa? (No Buff, cuman Aura Devo)
    Terus tu expertise sya 12 ckup pa kurang ?? (da yg bilang 26 / 25 expertise pas y)

    Tambahan :: Armor ane jd 45.900 Full Buff Raid ICC25N, sedangkan ICC10N-H Full Buff dpet y 44.867..

    masih rada bingung ini soal expertise y..

    hit rating 190 an sebenernya udah cukup (7.24%) + glyph righteous defense 8% + icc 25h kan pasti ada prist shadow misery 3%
    itu dah jadi sekitar 18% buat spell kan 17%. trus expertise bener kata mas billal klo bisa di 26 in
    klo bingung membanding2 kan equip palprot ini guide upgrading palprot high end http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.p...king-BiS-3.3.3

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    minta penjelasan dikit donk tentang expertise untuk paladin protection..



    asli masih kurang paham saya sama expertisenya..

    ada yang mau menjelaskan atau share link tentang expertise paladin protection ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilhampaly42 View Post
    minta penjelasan dikit donk tentang expertise untuk paladin protection..



    asli masih kurang paham saya sama expertisenya..

    ada yang mau menjelaskan atau share link tentang expertise paladin protection ??
    expertise itu sebenernya buat mencegah terjadi parry hasting pada boss.
    mekanik parry hasting itu begini. jika "sesuatu" memparry suatu attack maka next swingnya dipercepat 40%.
    jadi misal klo expertise kurang boss bakal sering parry = nightmare karena aspd boss makin cepet
    tapi kayaknya ampm parry hasting lom jalan awkoawkoaw ga tau sih ga pernah coba
    ada yang cobain dunk mekanik parry hasting jalan apa ga

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    selain Sindra dan Lady, boss icc ga da yg bisa parry haste
    buat boss laen liat http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.c...hp?f=6&t=27934

    Sekarang kan ICC Parry / Dodge / Block dah ga ngaruh d Bos2 ICC25H.. Soal y da debuff yg ngurangin 20% Dodge..
    sebenarnya sapa sih yg mulai sesat kasih tau ginian, cape bener lurusin

    Debuff -20% dodge tidak berpengaruh sama sekali ke gearing mu (kecuali klo dodge awalmu dibwah 20%, yg ga mungkin bahkan di equip lvl 232an). Km naekin dodge di luar icc dari 25% ke 26% (misal pasang beberapa gem), pas masuk ke icc juga masih naek 1% (dari 5% ke 6%). 1% itu artinya masih sama, kemungkinan boss hit km berkurang 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanvial View Post
    selain Sindra dan Lady, boss icc ga da yg bisa parry haste
    buat boss laen liat http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.c...hp?f=6&t=27934


    sebenarnya sapa sih yg mulai sesat kasih tau ginian, cape bener lurusin

    Debuff -20% dodge tidak berpengaruh sama sekali ke gearing mu (kecuali klo dodge awalmu dibwah 20%, yg ga mungkin bahkan di equip lvl 232an). Km naekin dodge di luar icc dari 25% ke 26% (misal pasang beberapa gem), pas masuk ke icc juga masih naek 1% (dari 5% ke 6%). 1% itu artinya masih sama, kemungkinan boss hit km berkurang 1%.
    ntah...gue juga bingung soalnya banyak juga TB selain druid bear yg colok dodge ama parry...buat apa coba?

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    buat palhol pvp'ers, mw tanya donk..
    gw maen 2s sm unholy DK.
    ada tips ga buat ngadepin "drain-team", jd kmrn mana gw jebol di sedot sm warlock n disc priest.
    dah brp kali pake plea, pake wisdom, lari2 kyk anak TK buat ngindarin chanelling warlock.

    DK gw di fear, pas lagi CD anti fear n trinketnya.
    DK gw mantengin si warlock, tp tiap warlocknya turun, langsung di cover priest disc nya.

    tipikal maennya, fokus drain mana gw sambil ladenin DK gw.
    mana gw habis gw fokus di bombard sampe mampus.

    dah maennya lama, kalah pula T_T
    ada tips ga gan?

    tq

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora View Post
    buat palhol pvp'ers, mw tanya donk..
    gw maen 2s sm unholy DK.
    ada tips ga buat ngadepin "drain-team", jd kmrn mana gw jebol di sedot sm warlock n disc priest.
    dah brp kali pake plea, pake wisdom, lari2 kyk anak TK buat ngindarin chanelling warlock.

    DK gw di fear, pas lagi CD anti fear n trinketnya.
    DK gw mantengin si warlock, tp tiap warlocknya turun, langsung di cover priest disc nya.

    tipikal maennya, fokus drain mana gw sambil ladenin DK gw.
    mana gw habis gw fokus di bombard sampe mampus.

    dah maennya lama, kalah pula T_T
    ada tips ga gan?

    tq
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    sorry2, just kidding...itu kelebihan dari lawan ente bro...dispel + mana burn bikin char ente dan rekan ente jadi lembek...mungkin solusi yg terbaik adalah burst WL (entah gimana pun caranya) sambil gangguin itu disci...stun disci pada saat yg tepat, kalo perlu pake seal of justice karena judgement dan melee attack punya chance untuk nge-stun target...

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora View Post
    buat palhol pvp'ers, mw tanya donk..
    gw maen 2s sm unholy DK.
    ada tips ga buat ngadepin "drain-team", jd kmrn mana gw jebol di sedot sm warlock n disc priest.
    dah brp kali pake plea, pake wisdom, lari2 kyk anak TK buat ngindarin chanelling warlock.

    DK gw di fear, pas lagi CD anti fear n trinketnya.
    DK gw mantengin si warlock, tp tiap warlocknya turun, langsung di cover priest disc nya.

    tipikal maennya, fokus drain mana gw sambil ladenin DK gw.
    mana gw habis gw fokus di bombard sampe mampus.

    dah maennya lama, kalah pula T_T
    sori bos nanya WL na afflict / destro? ***** aja WL nya trus.
    intinya gini... WL drain = channeling, priest mana burn = cast.
    lu set focus di priest, main tiang (los) jaga jgn sampe kliatan sama priest. DK nya kasi tau jgn lupa mind freeze nya dimainkan.

    drain mana nya WL bisa di cleanse... di cleanse berenti channeling dia...

    pokoknya intinya los dr priest, bgitu DK kena fear langsung dispel tp ati" kalo WLnya afflict dispelnya...kena UA bisa bocor MP... plea jgn tunggu mp abis, pas stgh ato 2/3 pake, jaga los jgn sampe didispel sama priest.

    GOOD LUCK !

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