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    oh itu toh macro paladin wkokwk, classnya apa dulu . tapi rata2 HoJ harus di trinket sih

    rotasi pally sih klik aja yang ga muter ( ds , cs , exor , concentrate )

    sealnya harusnya seal of blood tapi error disini , subtitusinya harusnya seal vengance tapi di disable disini

    hohoho

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    divine storm perasaan da heal dari lama, apa gua sala liat triggernya ya?
    skrg bnykan paladin kalo battleground/world pvp buka pake repen, sambung HoJ judgement crusader dll -> aprox damage wkt itu kegebuk ama kena rocket hampir 16k. masalahnya kalo da lepas dari situ, paladin ga punya CC lg dan diharapkan emg uda mati tu target.
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    repen digunain karna rata2 orang males ngejar yang lagi mount

    sebenernya lebih efektif crusader aura sampe masuk jarak judgment sih, baru judge justice .. jadi repennya bisa dipake kl butuh

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    Saya ga mau ngomong OP - Opan tentang paladin.

    HUNTER Ngedisable molo => OP
    Shaman lava burstnya sakit => OP
    warior blendernya makunyus > Op
    Death knight bisa imune sama stun >OP
    mage bisa slow > OP
    warlock bisa fear tanpa CD walau ada diminish return > OP
    priest bisa arsborb damage pake power word , dah gitu shadownya angker damagenya > OP
    Druid fero bitenya GG >OP
    rouge bisa stun lock > OP

    ^^^^^
    karena OP semua, maka class di wow itu BALANCED

    Ps: maap agak oot... karena masi banyak diskriminasi terhadap paladin di ampm

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    paladin prot OP dari hongkong

    KORBAN INTERUPT ITU

    retri? no reduce heal , no interupt

    holy? OOMLOL

    apa OPnya coba

    gwe bilang mah balance2 aja...

    pinter2 kita maeninnya aja

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekhanyas View Post
    oh itu toh macro paladin wkokwk, classnya apa dulu . tapi rata2 HoJ harus di trinket sih

    rotasi pally sih klik aja yang ga muter ( ds , cs , exor , concentrate )

    sealnya harusnya seal of blood tapi error disini , subtitusinya harusnya seal vengance tapi di disable disini

    hohoho
    Lha, jadi sealnya apaan? masa seal of commmad? wkakwkakawkw

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    ya terpaksa seal comand, pake glyph mayan lah dpsnya

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekhanyas View Post
    ya terpaksa seal comand, pake glyph mayan lah dpsnya
    Seal of Command ama Seal of Blood kuatan mana sih DPS nya? Kayaknya Seal of Blood lebih bagus d DPS nya...

    Seal of Blood damage ke diri sendiri, tapi damage nya konstan ke musuh, sedangkan kalo Seal of Command kan chance..

    Judgment of Command damagenya lebih besar dari Judgment of Blood. Kalau di glpyh pun JoC cuma ningkatin chance to proc nya. Seal of Blood kalau di glpyh (gw yakin bug nih) 11% return mana, cuma gw ga tau return dari mana....

    Yang rada bingung itu Seal of Corruption, sayang di disable Kurang begitu ngerti mechanic damage nya gimana.

    Btw, paladin retri pasang glpyh nya apa aja ya? Tq....

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    seal of blood itu harusnya proc ( keluar ) all melee atack , alias crusader strike sama DS juga keluar

    tapi di ampm cuma white damage ( auto atack ) aja keluarnya, nah itu yang bikin seal of blood memble dpsnya nya.

    apalagi judge seal blood yang cuma 1k an, beda jauh sama comand yang bisa 4-5k

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    Seal of Blood


    All melee attacks deal [0.48 * mw] to [0.48 * MW] additional Holy damage, but the Paladin loses health equal to 10% of the total damage inflicted. Lasts 30 min.

    Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing [0.26 * mw + 0.11 * AP + 0.18 * SPH] to [0.26 * MW + 0.11 * AP + 0.18 * SPH] Holy damage at the cost of health equal to 33% of the damage caused.
    Seal of Command

    All melee attacks deal [0.36 * mw] to [0.36 * MW] additional Holy damage. When used with attacks or abilities that strike a single target, this additional Holy damage will strike up to 2 additional targets. Lasts 30 min.

    Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing [0.19 * mw + 0.08 * AP + 0.13 * SPH] to [0.19 * MW + 0.08 * AP + 0.13 * SPH] Holy damage.
    Misalkan kita anggap :
    mw : 100
    MW : 200
    AP : 100
    SPH : 50

    Angka2 nya ngasal2 aja, bwat perbandingan doang...

    Seal of Blood
    Damage : [0.48 * mw] to [0.48 * MW] = 48 to 96
    Judgement : [0.26 * mw + 0.11 * AP + 0.18 * SPH] to [0.26 * MW + 0.11 * AP + 0.18 * SPH] = 26 + 11 + 9 to 52 + 11 + 9 = 46 to 72

    Seal of Command
    Damage : [0.36 * mw] to [0.36 * MW] = 36 to 72
    Judgement : [0.19 * mw + 0.08 * AP + 0.13 * SPH] to [0.19 * MW + 0.08 * AP + 0.13 * SPH] = 19 + 8 + 6.5 to 38 + 8 + 6.5 = 33.5 to 52.5

    Brarti Seal of Blood lebih kuat dong? Kan dah di balance dengan berkurangnya HP kita 10% dari damage Seal of Blood... Tapi kalo SoB nya cuma jalan kalo white damage doang mah mendingan SoC ya di AMPM....

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    kyknya salah itungannya,

    fakta di lapangan sih damage blood dan judgmentnya selalu lebih kecil dari comand

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekhanyas View Post
    kyknya salah itungannya,

    fakta di lapangan sih damage blood dan judgmentnya selalu lebih kecil dari comand
    formula itungannya gw ambil dari wowhead itu...
    cek aja...

    di lapangan mungkin ya itu, formula nya salah...
    CMIIW....

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    d AMPM yg eror ny banyak... @_@
    nunggu d benah i sama yg ahli d bidang ny da

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    Quote Originally Posted by AccretiaStriker View Post
    formula itungannya gw ambil dari wowhead itu...
    cek aja...

    di lapangan mungkin ya itu, formula nya salah...
    CMIIW....
    ambilnya jangan langsung dari wowhead, ya pasti beda

    disini 3.1.3 patchnya , patch2 kedepan seal comand emang di nerf jauh damagenya dan dijadiin seal untuk hit area.

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    kapan ya bug frostbolt dibenerin capek jg buang2 freedom lawan mage

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