Guide Char Warlock

[ballinst]

err, kalo ngeraid pake talent affliction gimana ya, bakal dicerca gak ya @__@
gw soalny ngeliat warlock maen afflic tapi maennya malah ngasi curse of tongues ke azgalor, bukan curse of elements, swt

[-OceaN-LorD]

masalanya ISB masi error,,
mending jgn pake afflict dlu deh

[dacchan]

azga? ngapain pake curse of tongue.. -_-a
saya sering koq pake affi, tp masuknya jd support.. kyk lawan ilidan ato archi.. ato yg butuh strategi lah yg ga mentingin dps doank, toh nge raid kan buat berhasil dan dpt equip bukan ngincer top dps.

[amber]

klo masalah dps di pve sih menurut gw untuk sekarang masih paling gede, UA+SBspam
tapi klo ISB gak error lho.. sekarang seh jgn harep...

[ballinst]

tapi ya warlock imo item gw masi cacad2 masi pake staff ga pake dagger yg dwa2 kek tempest of chaos, masi pake spellstone, neck masi cacad, sama dgn yg laen, @__@

tp berkat eq eq merciless dr pvp jd gila, mantep deh pvp
raid bkn hal yg wajib

[-OceaN-LorD]

azga? ngapain pake curse of tongue.. -_-a
saya sering koq pake affi, tp masuknya jd support.. kyk lawan ilidan ato archi.. ato yg butuh strategi lah yg ga mentingin dps doank, toh nge raid kan buat berhasil dan dpt equip bukan ngincer top dps.

ia
tpi kasian la warlock destruct yang critnya uda gede,,
isbnya ancur gara" DoT

[dacchan]

nah itu iya emang.. kebetulan pas patch yg mulai2 isbnya ancur saya main priest koq dan ga ada warlock affi support yg ngeraid saat ini.. smuanya destro. pdhl warlock affi saya guna bgt buat warlock laen dulu.. -_-

[ballinst]

wek
klo gw ngeraid sih, immolate-incenerate trus, shadow bolt mahal sih T_T
trus juga, kalo misalnya immolate uda out of buff (gak kliatan di tempat buffnya) tapi masih bisa conflagrate, ini enak, seneng gw
kalo bisa conflag = buff immolate nyangkut, trus damage incinerate tetep tambah gede
metal asli bug buff nyangkutnya @__@

err, ask jg, keuntungan shadow bolt berbanding skill2 laen apa?

[-OceaN-LorD]

improved shadow bolt
shadow and flame
bane
sacrifice succubus
bonus spell damage lebih gede ke shadow bolt dibandingkan incenerate

[njt68]

SB ftw
http://nihilum.mousesports.com/en/ar..._for_warlocks/

Afflic vs Destro

I'm not known for my tolerance to alternative builds or how some like to put it, shitbuilds (OK, I like to put it like that). Anyway, same as end of pre-2.4 content, situation in Sunwell stays... it's 0/21/40 baby and you will learn to love it. We do have few variations though, that differ in choosing Nether Protection or not, Cataclysm vs fire talents and how many points in Improved Healthstone you wanna take. The rest is not optional, since it is a quite straightforward spec and there is no science in making it. Selecting which version you want to use its dependent on your preference, if you like to farm stuff with fire outside of raids then use it, if you think 5% less manacost on Shadow Bolt will help you, then do that, and skip Nether Protection only if you will be tanking. If you won't be tanking though, NP is one of best talents you can have in Sunwell. I myself dislike Cataclysm and always have, you will never notice the difference anyway, TCfags might differ tho, but not like I ever cared what they think.
To clear any misconceptions that might occur I gotta bold it, no other spec will do you any good in Sunwell, so don't even try it, 0/21/40 is the win and you know it deep inside even if you like your DoT rotation and felguard micro. OK, now that this is done, let's go to another misconception and something I get spammed with nine hundred times every day. To make it even more obvious in empty hopes of not having to discuss it one more time, I'll bold it AND put it under its own point.

Fire vs Shadow

Shadow is superior to fire in every way imaginable, unless your idea of PvE raiding is killing mobs in Terokkar or you don't have shards to sacrifice succi with in actual raid. So if you didn't get my point here it goes again: SHADOW IS BETTER SHADOW IS BETTER SHADOW IS BETTER SHADOW IS BETTER SHADOW IS BETTER SHADOW IS BETTER! So please, let's not discuss it anymore, I don't care if you think incinerate is gods gift because of its cast time, or scorch debuff, we went through this millions of times before, SB leads to improved SB which leads to more damage for you, your warlocks and your shadowpriests, which in return give more mana back to you, your fellow locks, your mages and maybe even your healers AND it has no immolate dependancy. On the other hand you get to cast incinerate faster, weeeeeeeeee.

[ballinst]

gw krg bingung, kekny pengubahan talent tiap x raid, trus ikut PvP lg kekny gak praktis

15%, gw bingung, klo gw masuk kesitu ntar ga dapet shadowfury dimana sf guna bgt buat pvp, T_T

[dacchan]

tuh bener kata bang NJT.. shadow lbh menang dr fire, dan talent paling bagus buat raid itu 0/21/40. << klo misalnya niat raid ya harus berkorban buat shadowfury.

ok, kebetulan saya sucu nya eror jd 21/0/40, lol.

[ballinst]

tekor gw ntar tiap x raid mesti bayar ongkos 50 gold
dr dlu ga bcus2 ambil talent. wakawkwkw skrg baru ngerti pas baca wowhead dll, dan sialnya itu pas uda 70, *****

[dacchan]

hahah.. gini aja, klo misalnya raid yg biasa2, ya udah talentnya seadanya, tp klow misalnya mw ke SWP, ilidan, archi, ato apalah yg susah2, kamu niatin deh talentnya talent raid.. dan kita harus terus tetap belajar, heheh.

[njt68]

ya di niatin dah om >.<
pvp ya ambil shadowfury, bagus banget tuh
klo pve ya 0/21/40, dah wajib hukumnya menurutku.
Overall, gw setuju banget klo shadow > api (untuk saat ini, walaupun di wrath keliatannya api lebih dewa)