Guide Char Warlock

[Devilring]

glyph CB napa ga d pake ??
katakanlah 2 mnit encounter
no glyph 8x CB (14,5 sec), glyph 9x CB (12,5 sec)
4 mnit encounter
no glyph 16x, glyph 19x
6 mnit encounter
no glyph 24x, glyph 27x
8 minit encounter
no glyph 32xm glyph 38x
itupun harus pas GCD nya biar bisa 6x CB 2 minit
klo d rate d damage, damage done dari CB naek 18 %
glyph incinerate ?? damage done 5%

musti WL yg jago maen GCD yg bisa pake glyph CB
karena susah pas in GCD ny rata² DPS skip ini glyph

klo d bandingin life tap, 120 spell power <ambil spirit ampm dah 600 an>
perhitungan ny gmn gt ?
silakan d tanggapi

[amber]

glyph CB napa ga d pake ??
katakanlah 2 mnit encounter
no glyph 8x CB (14,5 sec), glyph 9x CB (12,5 sec)
4 mnit encounter
no glyph 16x, glyph 19x
6 mnit encounter
no glyph 24x, glyph 27x
8 minit encounter
no glyph 32xm glyph 38x
itupun harus pas GCD nya biar bisa 6x CB 2 minit
klo d rate d damage, damage done dari CB naek 18 %
glyph incinerate ?? damage done 5%

musti WL yg jago maen GCD yg bisa pake glyph CB
karena susah pas in GCD ny rata² DPS skip ini glyph

klo d bandingin life tap, 120 spell power <ambil spirit ampm dah 600 an>
perhitungan ny gmn gt ?
silakan d tanggapi

glyph of life tap, klo misalnya seperti yang lo bilang tambah 120 SP itu berefek ke semua skill WL, jadi misalnya lo destruct
1. immolate naik
2. karena immolate naik conflagrate naik
3. incin juga naik
4. CB sendiri juga naik

biarpun CB dengan glyph dia hanya akan berefek ke skill CB itu sendiri,

cobain dah make damage meter kaya skada ato recount, pantau damage dari 1 kali raid boss misalnya, klo gw biasa urutan total damage begini

asumsi berhasil dimasukkan 1 juta damage
1. Incinerate (sekitar 35% - 40% dari total damage WL) = 350k - 400k damage
2. Conflagrate (sekitar 20 - 30%% dari total damage WL) = 200k - 400k damage
3. CB (sekitar 15% - 20% dari total damage WL) = 150k - 200k damage
4. Immolate (sekitar 10-15% dari total damage WL) = 100k - 150k damage
5. Other skill, curse, pet, dll (5% - 10% dari total damage WL) = 50k - 100k damage

sekarang coba itung kasus gw, CB (un-glyph) = 12 secs; CB (glyph) = 10 secs
2 / 12 * 100% = 16.67% penambahan damage dari CB sendiri, kasus di atas kita ambil yang tinggi, 200k *116.67% = sekitar 33k penambahan damage

untuk yang dari SP kayanya susah ngitungnya, tapi gw percaya itu lebih gede soalnya efek ke semua spell

yahh mungkin ada juga yang beda2, tapi WL gw paling berefek damaenya seh dari incin damage

[unidentified]

@raid
glyph yg bgs itu immo/conflag/lifetap
cb kurang guna d pve, cuma ngasi 1 extra cb tiap 1 menit
not worth it
life tap "worth-the-slot" soalnya skrg durasinya 40 sec

klo gw sih lifetap/confla/inci
emg sih glyph immo secara otomatis nmbah damage confla jg

tapi apa ga mnding glyph inci yg notabene jd sumber pertama damage kita?

CMIIW

[darth irta]

gede2an damage kalo tbnya warr ato druid sih gpp kalo tbnya dk mending pake wand aja deh daripada dituduh ga jaga threat

[unidentified]

gede2an damage kalo tbnya warr ato druid sih gpp kalo tbnya dk mending pake wand aja deh daripada dituduh ga jaga threat

klo dknya dual wield mah iya ga ada treat, tp klo 2 handed GG jg lho kk threatnya

[Devilring]

CB normal raid full buff brp ?? 7k sampe ??
18% x 7k = 1260 damage / 10 sec

nih extra dps,yg aq ambil dari web sebelah
(+) 10 Spell Power: 8.35
(+) 10 Hit Rating: 11.95
(+) 10 Crit Rating: 4.38
(+) 10 Haste Rating: 6.76
(+) 10 Spirit Rating: 4.93

bisa d liat 120 spell power kontribusi dari glyph life tap = 108 dps

glyph CB = 126 dps still no 1
glyph lifetap =108 dps

demikan lah postingan saya..
d tunggu balesan anda

[ryviuz]

Major Glyph Recommendation :

[Glyph of Conflagrate] Required
Saves a GCD from recasting Immolate. Immo needs to be up at all times since all your spells benefit from it and since Conflag is your hardest hitting nuke which you'll want to cast as many times as possible, this is one is a sure given.

[Glyph of Incinerate] Required
Incinerate counts for over 50% of your damage making this very valuable.

[Glyph of Imp] Optional
Increases the damage of your machine-gu... err, I mean Imp by 20%. Very good at high gear level and best for your 3rd slot with BiS T10.

[Glyph of Immolate] Optional
Does not only increase the damage of Immo by 10% but also Conflag by 7%, double win! On par with Imp after 3.3.3.

[Glyph of Life Tap] Optional
Everytime you Life Tap, you gain 20% of your spirit in spell power for 40 sec. With a raidbuffed warlock with for example 500 spirit total this equates to 100 spell power to all your spells.

[Glyph of Chaos Bolt] Ignored
Provides you with one extra CB every minute instead of an Incinerate. Chaos Bolt is roughly 20% more damaging than Incin i.e. this glyph makes one Incin every minute 20% stronger. Not very useful in other words, seeing what other glyphs are available. Consider this a PvP-glyph.

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t38033-m...#ixzz0ni9Q8cx5

[amber]

Major Glyph Recommendation :

[Glyph of Conflagrate] Required
Saves a GCD from recasting Immolate. Immo needs to be up at all times since all your spells benefit from it and since Conflag is your hardest hitting nuke which you'll want to cast as many times as possible, this is one is a sure given.

[Glyph of Incinerate] Required
Incinerate counts for over 50% of your damage making this very valuable.

[Glyph of Imp] Optional
Increases the damage of your machine-gu... err, I mean Imp by 20%. Very good at high gear level and best for your 3rd slot with BiS T10.

[Glyph of Immolate] Optional
Does not only increase the damage of Immo by 10% but also Conflag by 7%, double win! On par with Imp after 3.3.3.

[Glyph of Life Tap] Optional
Everytime you Life Tap, you gain 20% of your spirit in spell power for 40 sec. With a raidbuffed warlock with for example 500 spirit total this equates to 100 spell power to all your spells.

[Glyph of Chaos Bolt] Ignored
Provides you with one extra CB every minute instead of an Incinerate. Chaos Bolt is roughly 20% more damaging than Incin i.e. this glyph makes one Incin every minute 20% stronger. Not very useful in other words, seeing what other glyphs are available. Consider this a PvP-glyph.

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t38033-m...#ixzz0ni9Q8cx5

wah.. keren juga infonya

maksud gw tuh daritadi itu, incin jadi nuke utama, terus life tap + glyph of life tap efeknya ke semua spell

[Devilring]

Major Glyph Recommendation :

[Glyph of Conflagrate] Required
Saves a GCD from recasting Immolate. Immo needs to be up at all times since all your spells benefit from it and since Conflag is your hardest hitting nuke which you'll want to cast as many times as possible, this is one is a sure given.

[Glyph of Incinerate] Required
Incinerate counts for over 50% of your damage making this very valuable.

[Glyph of Imp] Optional
Increases the damage of your machine-gu... err, I mean Imp by 20%. Very good at high gear level and best for your 3rd slot with BiS T10.

[Glyph of Immolate] Optional
Does not only increase the damage of Immo by 10% but also Conflag by 7%, double win! On par with Imp after 3.3.3.

[Glyph of Life Tap] Optional
Everytime you Life Tap, you gain 20% of your spirit in spell power for 40 sec. With a raidbuffed warlock with for example 500 spirit total this equates to 100 spell power to all your spells.

[Glyph of Chaos Bolt] Ignored
Provides you with one extra CB every minute instead of an Incinerate. Chaos Bolt is roughly 20% more damaging than Incin i.e. this glyph makes one Incin every minute 20% stronger. Not very useful in other words, seeing what other glyphs are available. Consider this a PvP-glyph.

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t38033-m...#ixzz0ni9Q8cx5

tau kenapa g pake itu? padahal 2 sec = inc damage done 18%, sedangkan inci 5%
karena lom ada 1 WL pun yg mampu memainkan GCD secara pro.
baca tuh baek2 testimoni ku..

wahahahahah...
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buat yg blom pro kek kamu ya maklum aja
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balesan ny cuma gitu ??
ga ada ilmiah2 nya gilak..
cabut ah sampe ada post yg ilmiah dikit baru komentar

lagian ambil dari elitejerk...
kenapa coba ambil d elitesmartperson
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[ryviuz]

gini,, kira2 besar mana

5 persen Incinerate damage setiap cast atau 20 persen incinerate damage per menit?

heran juga ya dah jelas glyph CB buat PVP masih ngotot dimasukin diskusi PVE

EDIT:

balesan ny cuma gitu ??
ga ada ilmiah2 nya gilak..
cabut ah sampe ada post yg ilmiah dikit baru komentar

kok bisa bilang balasan gw gk ilmiah napa ya? Ilmiah deifinisi nya menurut mu apasih? Apakah di setiap kalimat harus ada angka2 dan formula matematikanya baru bs disebut ilmiah? kalau definisi versi anak SD kek kamu seh ya seperti itu.

Tapi menurut gw ilmiah itu pengambilan kesimpulan berdasarkan data dan fakta yg aktual. Dan d reply gw setiap rekomendasi ada alasanya, meski dalam snippet frase yg sederhana.

Apa lo gk bs bahasa inggris ya? ya udah gw terjemahin..

Alasan pakai Glyph incinerate: itu Incin porsinyya sampe 50% dps. 5 % dari 50 % itu atleast 2,5 % DPS increase.

Alasan gk pakai Glyph CB : itu cuma stara 1x cast CB permenit yg mana DPS increasenya kira2 20 % dari satu kali cast Incin. Which is mean Glyph CB cuma naikin DPS kamu lebih gede kalau kamu cast Incin cuma 4 kali semenit, yg gk mungkin bgt

Alasan pakai Glyph SL : itu ngasih buff SP ke semua spell kamu : Immo, Confla, Incin dan CB smua di buff hanya dgn satu glyph saja

WL gw Spiirt raidbuff kira2 700-800an jadi pakai Glypf SL dapat SP kira2 140-160 an... itu gede loh,,

[amber]

gini,, kira2 besar mana

5 persen Incinerate damage setiap cast atau 20 persen incinerate damage per menit?

heran juga ya dah jelas glyph CB buat PVP masih ngotot dimasukin diskusi PVE

EDIT:



kok bisa bilang balasan gw gk ilmiah napa ya? Ilmiah deifinisi nya menurut mu apasih? Apakah di setiap kalimat harus ada angka2 dan formula matematikanya baru bs disebut ilmiah? kalau definisi versi anak SD kek kamu seh ya seperti itu.

Tapi menurut gw ilmiah itu pengambilan kesimpulan berdasarkan data dan fakta yg aktual. Dan d reply gw setiap rekomendasi ada alasanya, meski dalam snippet frase yg sederhana.

Apa lo gk bs bahasa inggris ya? ya udah gw terjemahin..

Alasan pakai Glyph incinerate: itu Incin porsinyya sampe 50% dps. 5 % dari 50 % itu atleast 2,5 % DPS increase.

Alasan gk pakai Glyph CB : itu cuma stara 1x cast CB permenit yg mana DPS increasenya kira2 20 % dari satu kali cast Incin. Which is mean Glyph CB cuma naikin DPS kamu lebih gede kalau kamu cast Incin cuma 4 kali semenit, yg gk mungkin bgt

Alasan pakai Glyph SL : itu ngasih buff SP ke semua spell kamu : Immo, Confla, Incin dan CB smua di buff hanya dgn satu glyph saja

WL gw Spiirt raidbuff kira2 700-800an jadi pakai Glypf SL dapat SP kira2 140-160 an... itu gede loh,,

koreksi dikit doang, yang bener glyph of life tap kan......

kan lagi bahas glyph of life tap dengan glyph of CB, jadi nyambung ke yang lain...

[ryviuz]

maklum ngantuk lol, iya maksudnya glyph Life Tap ,, maaap @@

[Bobbie]

udah kk..berdebat ama si pro ga akan ada beresnya..
lo mo pake glyph CB terserah..itu urusan lo
toh buktinya pemaen ampm bnyk jg yg pake glyph life tap
yg pasti di ampm terkenal dgn lag n delaynya...
CB dah cooldown, char lo masih aja ngecast incinerate.

[kepixs]

mungkin maksud kk devilring dengan main gcd tu dengan rotasi begini pa y

imolate-->cb-->conflag-->inci

karena pake glyph of chaosbolt maka cooldown conflag dan cb bisa bareng

DoT immolate 15 detik, cast cb 2,5 detik, jadi untuk combo cb + conflag selama 1 durasi immolate bisa 2 kali

cmiiw

tapi jgn lupa faktor lag di ampm kk ^^

[amber]

yah.. namanya maen tergantung style pemainnya enaknya gmn, soalnya ini semua theoritycal

terserah dah orangnya suka2, gw ajah lebih milih affliction klo buat raid daripada destruct, dan dpsnya gak kalah

lagian yang mao maen afflict ngambil talent afflictnya yang buat pvp yah sama juga boong....