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    Quote Originally Posted by ballinst View Post
    oo bner toh di os
    ah tapi ga mgkn lah cupu2 bgt di totc :P
    pasti 4,5k++

    edit, sori bro aduy kalo kiranya gw agak "offense", soalnya emang agak gatel liat mage dps gede2
    haha santai2 bro
    tapi jangan gatel yg "gatel" ya..
    haha gw akhir2 ini kaya lg dikejar2 gay asli -_-a tanya anak guild gw.. jadi sedikit trauma

    btw bro ballinst klo bandingin sekarang arcane sama ffb (ga pake bug combust of course) gedean dps mana?
    disini ffb mayan enak (tanpa bug combust) gara2 buff stacking kaya aura moonkin, ele oath, spirit, wild drum, king drum dll jadi base crit fire spell bisa 50% ++ jadi rajin hot streak sih..

    lagian klo maen arcane torment the weak di raid masih blom jalan..

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    ngg.. torment the weak ya? kmaren saya tes ke dummy, ada snare frostbolt dan tidak ada snare frostbolt
    hasilnya sebagai berikut

    1st frostbolt: 3500 dmg
    2nd frostbolt: 4000 dmg (ada snare dr 1st frostbolt)

    tapi blom dicoba utk raid, hrsny sih tetep dpt benefit 12%nya

    utk balap2an dps gw juga bingung, secara arcane sm ffb itu critical dependent IMO
    arcane crit dependent thdp arcane blast ama missile (AB klo crit bisa 22k+, 5 missile crit bisa 40k sendiri di 25man)
    sedangkan ffb kalo crit bisa 18k+ (combust up + full raid buff yang masih stackable di 25man)
    kalo ga crit, dps bisa turun jauh, AB yang tadinya crit 22k, bisa jd cm 10k..
    tergantung hoki sih utk 2 spec ini sih ujung2ny

    kalo gw liat2 itu si zonker pas world first LK, dia kasian bgt missile barrage ga proc2
    akhirnya sekitar 10x apa dia lepas 4 stack debuff AB cuma utk arcane barrage doang..
    utk spec ffb sendiri, poin + di ice shards, +100% crit damage. itu kalo crit, kalo nggak mgkn bisa turun dpsnya =_=

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    btw, ada yg ngrasa gak ffb patch ini diturunin damagenya?

    dulu 3.2.0 ffb 25man bisa sampe 25k-27k, skarang boro2 segitu, 20k aja uda syukur =="

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballinst View Post
    ngg.. torment the weak ya? kmaren saya tes ke dummy, ada snare frostbolt dan tidak ada snare frostbolt
    hasilnya sebagai berikut

    1st frostbolt: 3500 dmg
    2nd frostbolt: 4000 dmg (ada snare dr 1st frostbolt)

    tapi blom dicoba utk raid, hrsny sih tetep dpt benefit 12%nya

    utk balap2an dps gw juga bingung, secara arcane sm ffb itu critical dependent IMO
    arcane crit dependent thdp arcane blast ama missile (AB klo crit bisa 22k+, 5 missile crit bisa 40k sendiri di 25man)
    sedangkan ffb kalo crit bisa 18k+ (combust up + full raid buff yang masih stackable di 25man)
    kalo ga crit, dps bisa turun jauh, AB yang tadinya crit 22k, bisa jd cm 10k..
    tergantung hoki sih utk 2 spec ini sih ujung2ny

    kalo gw liat2 itu si zonker pas world first LK, dia kasian bgt missile barrage ga proc2
    akhirnya sekitar 10x apa dia lepas 4 stack debuff AB cuma utk arcane barrage doang..
    utk spec ffb sendiri, poin + di ice shards, +100% crit damage. itu kalo crit, kalo nggak mgkn bisa turun dpsnya =_=
    harusnya itu TTW benefit dari -attackspeed & movespeed (waktu itu gw quote dari wowhead di thread ffb vs fireball)
    di ampm benefit dari -movespeed udah jalan, tapi dari -atkspeed blom jalan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardooo View Post
    btw, ada yg ngrasa gak ffb patch ini diturunin damagenya?

    dulu 3.2.0 ffb 25man bisa sampe 25k-27k, skarang boro2 segitu, 20k aja uda syukur =="
    wew 27k wew...
    bugger pasti ini !
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    terus tier 10 Mage bonusnya gk jalan .. padal gg tu ....

    GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    Last edited by ryviuz; 06-07-10 at 18:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardooo View Post
    btw, ada yg ngrasa gak ffb patch ini diturunin damagenya?

    dulu 3.2.0 ffb 25man bisa sampe 25k-27k, skarang boro2 segitu, 20k aja uda syukur =="
    BUG Detected!

    Mirip sama Lava burst shaman, dulu bisa 15 K sekarang cuma 11 k gw

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    bro mo nanya,
    kalo untuk di raid, spell penetration itu berguna gk yh bro??

    Thx


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    Quote Originally Posted by blindfold View Post
    bro mo nanya,
    kalo untuk di raid, spell penetration itu berguna gk yh bro??

    Thx


    Regards,
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    imo tak berguna, kalopun boss ad resistance dah diturunin dlan sm CoE

    @Ardo
    bugger!

    @ryviuz
    emang, asli arcane bakal booming pasti klo jalan itu 2 set t10

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    @ryvius glyph eternal water error gimana?

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    ya kurang tau saya gan bug nya di mana

    tp asli kurang nya drastis @_@

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    adakah yg tau bener ga invisibility mage fade timenya ga ngaruh mau di hit mau kagak tetep ilang itu doi?..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyo07 View Post
    adakah yg tau bener ga invisibility mage fade timenya ga ngaruh mau di hit mau kagak tetep ilang itu doi?..
    bener koq, itu fade time mau kena hit / kagak bakal jalan terus 3 2 1... terus ilang,tapi kalo ad DOT langsung keliatan lagi

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    torment the weak itu nambah 12% damage ke target yg kena snare movement (chill, slow, crip poison, etc) ATAU reduce attack speed (thunderclap, judgement pally kalo ambil talent, dll)

    nah yg gak jalan itu yg bagian reduce attack speednya. jadi walaupun suatu target kena reduce attack speed (contohnya thunderclap warrior), torment the weaknya tetep gak jalan (harusnya jalan).

    nah berhubung boss raid itu immune to snare, harapannya cuma dari reduce attack speed. tapi karena seperti yg gw bilang di atas, torment the weak gak punya effect di raid.

    menurut pengamatan gw seperti itu

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetropolicH View Post
    torment the weak itu nambah 12% damage ke target yg kena snare movement (chill, slow, crip poison, etc) ATAU reduce attack speed (thunderclap, judgement pally kalo ambil talent, dll)

    nah yg gak jalan itu yg bagian reduce attack speednya. jadi walaupun suatu target kena reduce attack speed (contohnya thunderclap warrior), torment the weaknya tetep gak jalan (harusnya jalan).

    nah berhubung boss raid itu immune to snare, harapannya cuma dari reduce attack speed. tapi karena seperti yg gw bilang di atas, torment the weak gak punya effect di raid.

    menurut pengamatan gw seperti itu

    CMIIW
    kalo misalnya dari debuff kayak FFB gmn bro? masuk TtW ga itu?

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