Lets make another chatroom then.
Lets make another chatroom then.
owh that's too bad, i know how it feels...
hey that's a good idea IMPROVE UR ENGLISH BY TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING
see most people (Indonesian) are too shy to speak english. They are afraid if somehow they misspell a word or a letter. But, by writing in your thread, i think they don't have to feel shy or afraid.
good idea
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okay, i'll go on and create one
They are shy to speak up because grammar nazis (like OP of this thread) are still lurking and stalking, seeking for whomsoever have grammatical errors at their posts.
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well, it is normal for indonesian people to have errors either in their english speaking or writing
because our native's language is INDONESIAN not ENGLISH
even Mr George bush often make mistakes when delivering his speech
Last edited by TPI-NqMorThu; 28-08-14 at 18:51.
I guess what Nanodesu meant is that you have to improve your English in order to improve yourself in this world
There you go. The "nobody's perfect" argument. Usually brought in the end of an argument, preferably by the losing side because they're ready to accept their loss. but we've only just begun.
Yeah, it's not a reason. For me at least. English is NOT the global language per se, but it is the global language by de facto. Just look around you. You can find english being spoken, used, and taught in most if not all country in the world. Still not convinced? How about the fact that nearly every language in the world have borrowed at least a few words from the english language.
To me, in the world we live in now, being able to speak at least a little english is a must. No matter what your native language is. And you absolutely can't use your native language as a reason for not being able to speak english.
well, i just say the fact sir. Not because i'm loss arguing with you.
I ask you, the thread start with topic of poor grammar. I argue that we Indonesian people, native language is not English but Bahasa Indonesia. So it is very normal for them to make mistake in grammar right?
Then you said a little English there, mean grammar error occurrence still can be treated as common mistake and should not be debated.
my reason to argue here is we need to internationalised Bahasa Indonesia, therefore don't get embarrassed when you make mistake as that's make us unique.
Even Bahasa taught in USA, Australia, Singapore, and many developed country. So what is the reason to be embarrassed by using Indonesian Language?
Npte: I use -sed because i'm using British English
I acknowledge the fact that we're still on the process on arguing and not over I'm sorry if that's pretty uncomfortable. It's just a pet peeve of mine whenever someone said that in an argument because that's like a "get out of jail free" card.
And I do know that Indonesian is the native language for Indonesians. But in your previous post
It feels like you're using that as a reason for conformity. Since one of the main point of OP's post is also a critique against conformity. As implied in this sentence.well, it is normal for indonesian people to have errors either in their english speaking or writing
because our native's language is INDONESIAN not ENGLISH
And oh, that particular statement of mine is too emphasize the status of English as a global language. Not to counter your argument on why Indonesians' English are bad. Sorry, it kinda get a little bit mixed up.No offense though, because I am writing this to encourage all you Indonesians to simply triple-check your grammar when writing/speaking/listening/reading (in) English. And if unsure, please do study some English. The language is the world's #1 International language, how can Indonesia be a developed nation if its people can't even speak English correctly?
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