Update: PENIPU di jagat WOW IDGS (hati2 dengan list nick name berikut)

[flo0pz]

yg gw bingung si gini, apakah karena kecerobohan diri sendiri orang lain harus turut ikut campur bertanggung jawab?

ok contoh gini, ente mo jual mobil, tapi dia blon bayar ente dha kasi semua surat2 BPKB dll.
kesalahan ada di ente, tapi ente dateng ke kantor polisi buat ngeguggat.
polisi mesti ngapain? di mata polisi barang2 kepemilikan udah ada di tangan si "penipu"
bisa2 ente yg dipenjara gara2 ngaku2 itu mobil milik ente.

ato gak kasus lain, ibarat ente dah kawin. tapi ente jarang pulang, rumah gak diurus, anak2 dibiarin, kerjaan maen2 asik sendiri. trus suatu ketika istri ente minta divorce krn mo kawin lagi. trus ente manggil2 polisi. makes sense gak?

intinya, lo nganggep char elu sebagai "KEPEMILIKAN ELU" kan?
ya take fucking responsibility lah, if you really care about your damn char so much ya lu mestinya take extra precaution klo mau di trade. masa kesalahan ELU sendiri lu minta ORANG LAEN yg tanggung jawab. ini bukan masalah siapa POLISI ato siapa PENEGAK HUKUM.

ini masalah TAKING RESPONSIBILITY AND DEALING WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTION

pelajaran hidup juga buat lu. mestinya lu bersyukur cman char di game doank yg ilang. klo rekening bank?

asli deh jgn ngelunjak, itu GM kata gw dah baek banget mo ngasi secret question lah, dibolein WTT lah. Lu mestinya bilang terima kasih sm itu GM2 skr. Klo GW yg jadi GM lu posting di forum char lu ketipu, ID forum lu yg gw ban gara2 posting thread gak penting menuh2in forum.


peace out yo.

[billal130380]

semoga setelah postingan bang floopz, gak ada lagi yang teriak minta tolong gara2 IDnya ditipu/minta balik gara2 ditipu/minta di ban gara2 ditipu, dll2 nongol di forum....karena itu semua hanya buang2 waktu....nick2 tersangka udah di share disini...silahkan disikapi oleh agan2 sekalian...saran ane sih, hindari trade ID in game...kalo perlu gak usah WTT...

[AhliRusuh]

Yang gw mau cuma tindak tegas bagi yang penipu . . . masalah char balik / ga mah masa bodo . . . yang penting pelaku berkurang. . .
lagian ngapain juga WTT . . . ==a

toh dah bisa bikin ID ==a

[Igniel]

tadi siang baru aja di whisp iori
"kk, charnya mau WTT ga?"

ternyata udah ada threadnya..

[Sherlock.H]

yg gw bingung si gini, apakah karena kecerobohan diri sendiri orang lain harus turut ikut campur bertanggung jawab?

uhm ga ada yg minta org lain tanggung jwb? kalo mobil si a di curi org krn dia teledor ga kunci mobil, dia ga minta polisi gantiin mobil dia khan ? tapi dia minta polisi nangkep pelaku kejahatannya khan???? ga tau loe baca posts yg sama ma gw apa engga, tapi dr tadi yg di bahas bukan tanggung jwb buat balikin char yg di curi sih yah? dari tadi intina hukum lah yg bersalah!!!

ok contoh gini, ente mo jual mobil, tapi dia blon bayar ente dha kasi semua surat2 BPKB dll.
kesalahan ada di ente, tapi ente dateng ke kantor polisi buat ngeguggat.
polisi mesti ngapain? di mata polisi barang2 kepemilikan udah ada di tangan si "penipu"
bisa2 ente yg dipenjara gara2 ngaku2 itu mobil milik ente.

uda saatnya loe coba jual mobil... jual mobil ga kaya jual permen karet di warung... semua itu ada 'contract'/surat2 yg musti di tanda tgn sblm ada penyerahan bpkb atau pun uang..... kalo ga ada surat2 hitam di atas putih, sama aja dong, kalo kita balik di sisi pembeli yg harus ngasih uang doloan lalu uda bayar tau2 ga di kasih bpkb, juga ga bisa gugat khan? jadi either way juga ga bisa gugat, salahnya bukan sapa yg ngasih duluan, salahnya ga pake 'contract' sayang yah contohnya ga valid...

ato gak kasus lain, ibarat ente dah kawin. tapi ente jarang pulang, rumah gak diurus, anak2 dibiarin, kerjaan maen2 asik sendiri. trus suatu ketika istri ente minta divorce krn mo kawin lagi. trus ente manggil2 polisi. makes sense gak?

here's a little tip you don't call a fuckin police when your wife wants a divorce....!!! not even when you've already been a greatest husband that she could ever find lol baru kali ini gw denger org manggil polisi gara2 mau di cerain-in, hell yeah it doesn't make any sense.... lagi2 contoh yg gagal...

intinya, lo nganggep char elu sebagai "KEPEMILIKAN ELU" kan?
ya take fucking responsibility lah, if you really care about your damn char so much ya lu mestinya take extra precaution klo mau di trade. masa kesalahan ELU sendiri lu minta ORANG LAEN yg tanggung jawab. ini bukan masalah siapa POLISI ato siapa PENEGAK HUKUM.

you'r damn right, we have to be responsible of what we own, but that doesn't mean wrongdoer goes unpunished when we are not as responsible as we should, right ?
indonya, jelas kita harus bertangung jwb menjaga milik kepunyaan kita, tapi bukan brarti org yg bersalah ga di hukum khan ketika kita kurang bertanggung jwb?

ini masalah TAKING RESPONSIBILITY AND DEALING WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTION

ini kata2 loe loh yah? coba gw tanya yah, apa penipu itu uda deal with the consequences oh his action ? blm khan??

pelajaran hidup juga buat lu. mestinya lu bersyukur cman char di game doank yg ilang. klo rekening bank?

asli deh jgn ngelunjak, itu GM kata gw dah baek banget mo ngasi secret question lah, dibolein WTT lah. Lu mestinya bilang terima kasih sm itu GM2 skr. Klo GW yg jadi GM lu posting di forum char lu ketipu, ID forum lu yg gw ban gara2 posting thread gak penting menuh2in forum.


peace out yo.

1. read dolo post2 sblmnya, ga ada urusan sama char ilang, dr tadi ga ngebahas ttg org yg di tipu... gw ngebahas penjahatnya...
2. ga ada yg ngelunjak? gw yakin loe familiar sama indonesia yah ? gw yakin banyak warga negara indo yg hidup "gratis" di negara ini... lalu ketika ada kasus korupsi, apa brarti mereka2 itu ga punya hak utk minta negara menangkap koruptornya ? apa mereka perlu di penjara krn "menuh2 in indonesia, dan demo2 yg ga penting" ?
jadi intinya di mata loe, lbh penting gm ngeban gw krn gw concern akan org2 yg "gullible" yg bisa kena tipu, yg menyuarakan suara supaya org yg bersalah di hukum, dari pada ngeban org yg jelas2 bersalah ?

kalo iyah, gw cman punya 1 kata: ironis.....!

[flo0pz]

ok masbro, I like your attitude. a lil' bit like me in the old days but nevertheless too naive. It's not in your jurisdiction to judge someone, when the victim has already given up on the matter. It's like a criminal killed someone, and the victims families already forgave him for it. And then you came rushing in demanding the criminal be put to justice. Dude, please if those are not your characters, and the OWNERS of those characters has already given up (in other words already at peace with the crime inflicted upon them), then WHAT'S THE GODDAMN POINT?!? and even if they aren't there's always that option of secret question bla bla bla (that is if they ARE the legitimate owner of those IDs). They got jacked, they accepted it. case closed dude!

1st of all before tackling ANY kind of problem you must recall the resources at hand as well as the constraints in which the problem lies in

1. Private server, in which at the point you clicked that button that says I ACCEPT, you hereby AGREE to the following:

• you do NOT own your character. in the event that the GM or the server administrator decides to DELETE your character for WHATEVER REASON THEY MAY CHOOSE, they may do so. and you can't do anything about it.
• The rule above also complies that in the event that ANYTHING happens to your character, be it be deleted, mishandled, stolen, corrupted, the GM or the server administrator is in NO WAY RESPONSIBLE to be held against it NOR HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RESTORE IT IN ANY WAY. Should the character be restored, it is ENTIRELY up to the GM and staffs' GOOD WILL (basically up to their whim, so to speak)

2. limited GM with limited SPARE time

• GM's and staff are doing maintenance, updates, patches, ON THEIR OWN FREE WILL, AND IN THEIR OWN SPARE TIME. Should matters pertaining to the server conflicts with an interest in their daily lives, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO PRIORITIZE WHICH ACTIVITIES THEY WILL RESUME 1ST AND WHICH THEY WILL ABANDON (for the time being anyways)

uhm ga ada yg minta org lain tanggung jwb? kalo mobil si a di curi org krn dia teledor ga kunci mobil, dia ga minta polisi gantiin mobil dia khan ? tapi dia minta polisi nangkep pelaku kejahatannya khan???? ga tau loe baca posts yg sama ma gw apa engga, tapi dr tadi yg di bahas bukan tanggung jwb buat balikin char yg di curi sih yah? dari tadi intina hukum lah yg bersalah!!!

uda saatnya loe coba jual mobil... jual mobil ga kaya jual permen karet di warung... semua itu ada 'contract'/surat2 yg musti di tanda tgn sblm ada penyerahan bpkb atau pun uang..... kalo ga ada surat2 hitam di atas putih, sama aja dong, kalo kita balik di sisi pembeli yg harus ngasih uang doloan lalu uda bayar tau2 ga di kasih bpkb, juga ga bisa gugat khan? jadi either way juga ga bisa gugat, salahnya bukan sapa yg ngasih duluan, salahnya ga pake 'contract' sayang yah contohnya ga valid...

utk paragraph 1. sekarang untuk menghukum suatu orang bersalah atau tidak, anda memerlukan bukti a.k.a evidence. gw udah state di post gw sebelumnya, kalo anda ke polisi tapi barang bukti kepemilikan udah ada di tangan si "penipu", polisi harus gimana? di mata polisi itu barang memang sudah punya si penipu! bisa2 si penipu nuntut anda balik karena "PENCEMARAN NAMA BAIK". lembaga kepolisian bukan hukum rimba yg maen asal tangkep jeblosin penjara, ada prosedur. begitu pula dengan IDGS.

utk paragraph 2. aduh.... ARE YOU TRYIN TO INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE? holy **** man this kid's outta control.

"uda bayar tau2 ga di kasih bpkb, juga ga bisa gugat khan?"
kan ada bukti pembayaran ***** !!! asli dah hedeuh geleng2 aink...

here's a little tip you don't call a fuckin police when your wife wants a divorce....!!! not even when you've already been a greatest husband that she could ever find lol baru kali ini gw denger org manggil polisi gara2 mau di cerain-in, hell yeah it doesn't make any sense.... lagi2 contoh yg gagal...

wait wat? you're givin ME a tip?! ok kid, 1st of all if you can't read between the lines then don't even try. What I'm trying to say (that unfortunately you didn't catch), is that YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG PERSON.

It's like you went to a mall, and go park your car in the parking lot. You HAVE seen the sign that says "should anything happen to your vehicle, the mall will not be held responsible for any damage caused / materials lost".

Now let's twiddle the sentence a bit:
"Should anything happen to your CHARACTER due to WTT/WTS, the GM / STAFF will not be held responsible for any damage caused / materials lost"

YOU ASKING THE GM TO BAN THE CHARACTER is like... YOU'RE ASKING THE MALL TO ARREST THE THIEF. get it?! YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG PERSON BUTTHEAD.

you'r damn right, we have to be responsible of what we own, but that doesn't mean wrongdoer goes unpunished when we are not as responsible as we should, right ?
indonya, jelas kita harus bertangung jwb menjaga milik kepunyaan kita, tapi bukan brarti org yg bersalah ga di hukum khan ketika kita kurang bertanggung jwb?

ini kata2 loe loh yah? coba gw tanya yah, apa penipu itu uda deal with the consequences oh his action ? blm khan??

jesus christ, please don't try that translate **** on me

• 1st of all I am in EVERY way superior to you in terms of english, so your vain efforts are totally futile (don't even try)
• 2nd, whaddaya mean "when we are not as responsible as we should" ?? U MADD NIGGA?! that's YOUR char (so to speak). YOU ARE IN EVERY FUCKING WAY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. AND AGAIN (/sigh this goes for you being too naive i guess). YES!! guess what?! YES! there are COUNTLESS criminals in the WORLD that frankly... GOT AWAY WITH IT. What the hell do you expect?! every one to be honest? JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL !!! for the love of god, quit playin' games and get a taste of the real world kid.

1. read dolo post2 sblmnya, ga ada urusan sama char ilang, dr tadi ga ngebahas ttg org yg di tipu... gw ngebahas penjahatnya...
2. ga ada yg ngelunjak? gw yakin loe familiar sama indonesia yah ? gw yakin banyak warga negara indo yg hidup "gratis" di negara ini... lalu ketika ada kasus korupsi, apa brarti mereka2 itu ga punya hak utk minta negara menangkap koruptornya ? apa mereka perlu di penjara krn "menuh2 in indonesia, dan demo2 yg ga penting" ?
jadi intinya di mata loe, lbh penting gm ngeban gw krn gw concern akan org2 yg "gullible" yg bisa kena tipu, yg menyuarakan suara supaya org yg bersalah di hukum, dari pada ngeban org yg jelas2 bersalah ?

kalo iyah, gw cman punya 1 kata: ironis.....!

hedeuh cape jg. gpp si, kyk mahasiswa aje semangat berkoar2 demo ini itu... ahhh miss the good ol' days. kid, if you haven't noticed cuz you spend too much time in front of the monitor i'll tell you this now. YES THE WORLD IS IRONIC.

1. if you could read between the lines as I have stated above, I AM STATING IT AS A WHOLE. which means that POST is directed towards the VICTIM, the PROSECUTOR (in this case you), as well as the PERPETRATOR / ALLEGED CRIMINAL.
2. yes, menurut gw lu ngelunjak. kenapa?
A. masyarakat bayar pajak, dan mengeluarkan uang sesuai dengan kurs yang berlaku, sedangkan lu maen GRATIS.
B. sbnernya I salute your zealous attitude towards justice se, tapi masalahnya ya itu tadi. You're just too naive kid, ada yg namanya proses dan prosedur. didalam situ juga ada yg namanya IMPLIKASI dari suatu keputusan. GM juga pasti sudah merapatkan ini and decide IT'S NOT WORTH THEIR TIME (inget point 2 diatas ttg constraints) to INVESTIGATE THAT MATTER.

Andaikata ELU GM dan ELU MAU ngurusin gitu2an ya by all means go ahead!!!. unfortunately you're not, dan sesuai dengan poin diatas, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEMAND ANYTHING FROM THE GM / STAFF. Mau char lo di delet kek, mau barang lo ilang kek, mau TIBA2 DATABASE DI DELETE KEK. you can't do **** man, it says so in the user agreement.

and last but not least, knp elu yg di ban? ok how bout this:

You ask your boss for a raise. He says no.
You ask your boss AGAIN for a raise. he says no again.
the next time you ask your boss for a raise, there's a high chance you get fired instead.

You post something about some thief. your thread get's locked
You post something AGAIN about THE SAME thief. your thread get's locked again.

can you guess what's gonna happen the third time you post the same **** over and over again?

C'MON SHERLOCK, YOU'RE SMART GO FIGURE

[SuperMassive]

gw setuju ama floopz

intinya terima akibat ama apa yang uda di lakuin ..

lagian selama si penipu gak punya lawan untuk di tipu juga di bakalan gigit jari .

tinggal bilang GAK gitu aja susah ya? mo maen job baru? ya bikin lagi

[PnG Corp]

smoga ga bosen yak ^^

Intinya baca rules dan pahami kelebihan2 ( kenikmatan ) dan kekurangan2 ( resikonya ) kk, segala sesuatu TIDAK bisa di pandang hanya dari 1 sisi/pihak kita sendiri, kita tetep harus memahami sisi/pihak yg laen ^^

saran sy kl mau jual/WTT char ( sukur kl mau di ikutin, kl ga mau yaudah )
1. tanya2 orang yg anda kenal jelas ttg char tsb baik dari guild si char bersangkutan, dll2 nya ^^
2. jgn keburu nafsu akan sesuatu yg "murah" tapi murahan ^^
3. kalau bisa bertemu muka, sapa tau bisa naksir dan "jadian" ^^
4. minta tolong sama "orang ke 3" yang kalian ber 2 sudah kenal jelas dan sudah ternama utk melakukan transaksi ^^
5. mungkin ada yg bisa nambahin ^^

semoga dengan banyaknya noda2 nila/tinta yang hitam dan pekat, tidak merusak susu yang cuma setetes ini ^^

[Tymeconue]

smoga ga bosen yak ^^

Intinya baca rules dan pahami kelebihan2 ( kenikmatan ) dan kekurangan2 ( resikonya ) kk, segala sesuatu TIDAK bisa di pandang hanya dari 1 sisi/pihak kita sendiri, kita tetep harus memahami sisi/pihak yg laen ^^

saran sy kl mau jual/WTT char ( sukur kl mau di ikutin, kl ga mau yaudah )
1. tanya2 orang yg anda kenal jelas ttg char tsb baik dari guild si char bersangkutan, dll2 nya ^^
2. jgn keburu nafsu akan sesuatu yg "murah" tapi murahan ^^
3. kalau bisa bertemu muka, sapa tau bisa naksir dan "jadian" ^^
4. minta tolong sama "orang ke 3" yang kalian ber 2 sudah kenal jelas dan sudah ternama utk melakukan transaksi ^^
5. mungkin ada yg bisa nambahin ^^

semoga dengan banyaknya noda2 nila/tinta yang hitam dan pekat, tidak merusak susu yang cuma setetes ini ^^

wkwokwok udh prnh baca ini gw, ampir apal neh. gw tau nih:
5. Jual/beli/tukar char pada P&G Corp aman terpercaya.
6. Ketemuan ama kk P&G Corp siapa tau naksir dan "jadian" wkowkowk.
7. mungkin ada yg bisa nambahin lagi ^^

[Sherlock.H]

hah, clearly you know nothing about law. here's a little lecture, in criminal law, Defense Attorney is the one that's going to put charges on the offender, not the victim, so regardless he/she is forgiven by the victim, the hearing will still proceed, proven guilty and sentence will be dropped upon..

my goddamn point is clear wrongdoers must be punished !!

point no 1? Didn't you read my previous posts? let me spell it for you I-D O N T-G I V E-A-F U C K-A B O U T-R E S T O R I N G-T H O S E-H A C K E D-C H A R S !!

uhm, evidences? how about couple of people saying the same exact things and how about my scs? again, didn't you READ ?

Certainly not Insulting your intelligence, as you've showed none.

"uda bayar tau2 ga di kasih bpkb, juga ga bisa gugat khan?"
kan ada bukti pembayaran ***** !!! asli dah hedeuh geleng2 aink...

yg ****** itu siapa ? bukti pembayaran selembar kertas isi account, account tujuan, jumlah transfer, dan tanggal, is that enough as an evidence ? I say, It's a circumstantial evidence, doesn't hold up in the court.. bukti pembayaran ga ada tulisan utk pembayaran apa khan ? kalo ada pun ga ada tanda tgn dr yg menerima uang kalo pembayarannya utk spt yg tertera? kalo ada itu namanya CONTRACT ! apa bisa gw transfer uang ke loe 1 juta, terus gw ke polisi bilang gw dah bayar, buat beli mobil loe, tapi loe ga kasih gw mobilnya ? lol.. FAILED , again... ikut geleng2

wait wat? you're givin ME a tip?! ok kid, 1st of all if you can't read between the lines then don't even try. What I'm trying to say (that unfortunately you didn't catch), is that YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG PERSON.

It's like you went to a mall, and go park your car in the parking lot. You HAVE seen the sign that says "should anything happen to your vehicle, the mall will not be held responsible for any damage caused / materials lost".

Now let's twiddle the sentence a bit:
"Should anything happen to your CHARACTER due to WTT/WTS, the GM / STAFF will not be held responsible for any damage caused / materials lost"

YOU ASKING THE GM TO BAN THE CHARACTER is like... YOU'RE ASKING THE MALL TO ARREST THE THIEF. get it?! YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG PERSON BUTTHEAD

"you can't read between the lines" are you talking about yourself ? I said you don't call police etc... if you did, you'll get no result as they can't do anything about private matter, this pretty much saying that you're calling a wrong person right?.. this is what stated between the lines, you can't read it? really? you don't even live up to your own statement.

yeah, the mall will not responsible to REIMBURSE any missing item ( and I will not asking them to, as I am not asking GM to restore those hacked chars ) but if they do catch the guy that stole the item, will they bring him to justice? a stupid question, answer please...?

If the thief is still in the mall, yes!! they have the responsibility to catch him *DOOH*.. and give them up to the police, that is what security guards are for, right?

1st, I didn't translate it for you...in case you are aware, this is a public forum, other people read ( unlike you obviously)
2nd, you don't know me, so clearly you have no idea whether your English is farm more superior than me, apparently I don't think so.
3rd, I'm not talking about those countless criminals, I'm talking about this particular criminal, the one that WE ARE FACING. and yeah justice should be served! I know not all will be served but is that mean we should start by ignoring the one that is around us ?

hedeuh cape jg. gpp si, kyk mahasiswa aje semangat berkoar2 demo ini itu... ahhh miss the good ol' days. kid, if you haven't noticed cuz you spend too much time in front of the monitor i'll tell you this now. YES THE WORLD IS IRONIC.

As I told you, you don't know me... so you don't know how many hours that I have spent in front of the monitor.
So let's change it by start it form us , so the world won't be as IRONIC as it is, in time.

"masyarakat bayar pajak, dan mengeluarkan uang sesuai dengan kurs yang berlaku, sedangkan lu maen GRATIS." do you really believe that line ? FYI, not all people is a tax registered, and not all of those people consume taxable products or services, so yeah there is some groups of people(citizen of RI) that have been living here, literally, free. are you saying that they don't have the same rights as other citizen ?

You ask your boss for a raise. He says no.
You ask your boss AGAIN for a raise. he says no again.
the next time you ask your boss for a raise, there's a high chance you get fired instead.

You post something about some thief. your thread get's locked
You post something AGAIN about THE SAME thief. your thread get's locked again.

can you guess what's gonna happen the third time you post the same **** over and over again?

I have to say, you are pretty bad at giving a scenario..
If you were fired because you nag, I would say that you must be one hell of a bad employee, I mean BAD, people don't get fire because they nag, they nag all the time anyway! If you did get fired, you could sue them back for unlawful termination. and guess what, you'll get more.

your scenario doesn't even close to what's happening here. first I don't ask for my own benefit, I ask for the benefit of the whole community. 2ndly, I ask for something that is normal, punish the wrongdoers, normal enough for you ? 3rd, 2 threads of mine is not even fall on the same category, first is the report about that guy, 2nd is a warning too all of you, and this one ? it's not even mine...

And don't you kid me.

P.S @ all, sori pake inggris..

[flo0pz]

Goodness gracious, wish i had more posts to spare, this is actually quite fun. ok kiddo, i'd have to say, you got potential. If it were any other situation I'd probably back you up, since I do believe justice is required in order for a society to function. Unfortunately in this circumstance, it's case closed, why? the rules says so (or lack of the rules says so)

hah, clearly you know nothing about law. here's a little lecture, in criminal law, Defense Attorney is the one that's going to put charges on the offender, not the victim, so regardless he/she is forgiven by the victim, the hearing will still proceed, proven guilty and sentence will be dropped upon..

my goddamn point is clear wrongdoers must be punished !!

um... hello? AFAIK Defense Attorney's the one who's defending a client accused of a crime. In this case the one who's accused is the ID THIEF. A defense lawyer will argue on behalf of its client to prove that he or she did not actually commit a crime. So that means Defense Attorney is the one DEFENDING their CLIENT from charges put up by the PROSECUTING ATTORNEY. so... that means you're defending the ID thief then? don't make me laugh. OH!! and yes I CLEARLY don't know anything about law, I'm an Engineer, but at least I know THAT much. Then somehow you have the AUDACITY to lecture ME??! gosh, I love this kid, shows such spunk!

point no 1? Didn't you read my previous posts? let me spell it for you I-D O N T-G I V E-A-F U C K-A B O U T-R E S T O R I N G-T H O S E-H A C K E D-C H A R S !!

uhm, evidences? how about couple of people saying the same exact things and how about my scs? again, didn't you READ ?

Certainly not Insulting your intelligence, as you've showed none.

see? you're missing the point. AGAIN (whoa didn't see that comin'. yea rite lol). OK so you walk into a neighborhood and see 5 guys hangin' round chillin relaxin all cool tryn shoot some b-ball outside-a school, n then they slipped some "contraband" in your pocket and call the Police. 5 guys against 1. their words against yours. Is that what you call justice? I call that **** HAPPENS.

yg ****** itu siapa ? bukti pembayaran selembar kertas isi account, account tujuan, jumlah transfer, dan tanggal, is that enough as an evidence ? I say, It's a circumstantial evidence, doesn't hold up in the court.. bukti pembayaran ga ada tulisan utk pembayaran apa khan ? kalo ada pun ga ada tanda tgn dr yg menerima uang kalo pembayarannya utk spt yg tertera? kalo ada itu namanya CONTRACT ! apa bisa gw transfer uang ke loe 1 juta, terus gw ke polisi bilang gw dah bayar, buat beli mobil loe, tapi loe ga kasih gw mobilnya ? lol.. FAILED , again... ikut geleng2

geleng2 knape lu? mabok? oooo pantesan.... hahah... aaannyway... nah kan kepancing juga. tuker2an ID pake kontrak gak? lo sendiri lho yg bilang "CIRCUMSTANCIAL EVIDENCE" klo gak pake kontrak. Berarti itu thief gak bisa held accountable for his crimes donk? LOL. gotcha kid.

"you can't read between the lines" are you talking about yourself ? I said you don't call police etc... if you did, you'll get no result as they can't do anything about private matter, this pretty much saying that you're calling a wrong person right?.. this is what stated between the lines, you can't read it? really? you don't even live up to your own statement.

yeah, the mall will not responsible to REIMBURSE any missing item ( and I will not asking them to, as I am not asking GM to restore those hacked chars ) but if they do catch the guy that stole the item, will they bring him to justice? a stupid question, answer please...?

If the thief is still in the mall, yes!! they have the responsibility to catch him *DOOH*.. and give them up to the police, that is what security guards are for, right?

that's just an example of an instance doing what they say they would. And NOT doing what they say they will NOT do. Stop focusing on the objects in my analogies so much and try to see the meaning behind it, not too much to ask I must say.

The rule CLEARLY SAYS:
1. GM's will ban and delete the item in question in case of ninja-loot
2. GM's will not meddle in the affairs of account hacked, stolen, due to trade between players.

they abide by the rules they set. Sounds fine by me.
what you're trying to do, is they MAKE A NEW RULE of "WILL BAN AN ID SUGGESTED OF SWEET-MOUTHING AN INNOCENT KID INTO GIVING THEIR PASSWORD". once again, YOU MADD?!?

and MIND YOU that setting up a new RULES AND REGULATIONS comes with it's own IMPLICATIONS. The staff just weren't ready for that. It's like Risking making someone pregnant and not taking responsibility. YOU, who by all means have NO influence or power invested in this server WHATSOEVER (just a user for god's sake), are ORDERING the STAFF n GM's to do something that the repercussions they're not ready (and not willing) to deal with!!!

It's like you're forcing someone to have sex when they don't want to! gosh, how much clearer do I have to make this for you. Education's important, but I'm goin' on a limb here.

1st, I didn't translate it for you...in case you are aware, this is a public forum, other people read ( unlike you obviously)
2nd, you don't know me, so clearly you have no idea whether your English is farm more superior than me, apparently I don't think so.
3rd, I'm not talking about those countless criminals, I'm talking about this particular criminal, the one that WE ARE FACING. and yeah justice should be served! I know not all will be served but is that mean we should start by ignoring the one that is around us ?

1st, OK my bad kiddo. I apologize. want an ice cream cone? rofl and yes I am illiterate. If you could define the meaning and standards literacy, I should say I am illiterate for my standards are quite high. You on the other hand... well...

2nd, yeah I don't know you. I don't know who the hell is behind every forum ID here. Why should I? I don't have to know YOU to know your linguistic skills is inferior to mine. I just have to read what you wrote, it's quite simple really. I mean, YOU say I clearly show no sign of intelligence whatsoever right? well If someone as LACKING in the brains department as me can understand that, what does that make you?

As I told you, you don't know me... so you don't know how many hours that I have spent in front of the monitor.
So let's change it by start it form us , so the world won't be as IRONIC as it is, in time.

"masyarakat bayar pajak, dan mengeluarkan uang sesuai dengan kurs yang berlaku, sedangkan lu maen GRATIS." do you really believe that line ? FYI, not all people is a tax registered, and not all of those people consume taxable products or services, so yeah there is some groups of people(citizen of RI) that have been living here, literally, free. are you saying that they don't have the same rights as other citizen ?

Please, good god. Stop focusing on my analogies, and try to catch what i'm sayin'. Is it really that difficult? Again, I don't know you, i don't give a flyin rat's ass who the hell you are. Why would I even wanna know how many hours you spent?! I'm just sayin take a GOOD GODDAMN LOOK AT REALITY.

Everything that your asking for? it's like fuckin paradise. where everyone's law abiding citizens. where every crime is punished. where there are no homeless abound. when education is highly valued. GUESS WHAT SHERLOCK(and your ID just happened to be sherlock? lol)!? THIS AIN'T THAT PLACE. IT NEVER WAS, NEVER WILL BE. **** HAPPENS, and MOST OF THE TIME FOR GOOD REASONS. STOP BEING SO FUCKING NAIVE.

IF YOU DON'T GET OUT MUCH BY SITTIN' IN FRONT OF A MONITOR, OF COURSE YOU THINK THE WORLD IS SUPPOSED TO BE PICTURE PERFECT!!

I have to say, you are pretty bad at giving a scenario..
If you were fired because you nag, I would say that you must be one hell of a bad employee, I mean BAD, people don't get fire because they nag, they nag all the time anyway! If you did get fired, you could sue them back for unlawful termination. and guess what, you'll get more.

your scenario doesn't even close to what's happening here. first I don't ask for my own benefit, I ask for the benefit of the whole community. 2ndly, I ask for something that is normal, punish the wrongdoers, normal enough for you ? 3rd, 2 threads of mine is not even fall on the same category, first is the report about that guy, 2nd is a warning too all of you, and this one ? it's not even mine...
And don't you kid me.

P.S @ all, sori pake inggris..

No, I'm thinking my scenarios hit the mark quite well. I just think you're getting the wrong message, well lack of certain things does that to you I guess. I feel sorry for you, cuz' I think you're just suffering from some kind of mental illness. but I'll tell you one cure, works wonders trust me. Wanna know what that cure's called? its called GETTING A LIFE

people don't get fired from nagging? see? that just shows how much of a kid you are! aaah... adolescence brings back memories, I'd say. Anyway Mr.Teen-who-know-it-all, try asking someone you know, to ask their boss for a raise. 3 days in a row. see what happens. well I'm guessing cuz you yourself have never been employed, you get that "they can't fire me!! i'll sue their asses!!". oh my god seriously, you ***** me up kiddo.

Unlawful termination? actually it's quite lawful. The company could just state in their defense that... you lack certain qualities as an employee... or some **** like that. hell it's their company, they can say whatever the **** they want about your performance. They have the power to pull stunts like that. YOU, on the other hand as a meager employee, does NOT.

guess what, here's the perfect analogy for you, Ok i'll spell it out for you since you lack the capacity of understanding due to your... err.. "mental illness"

lil kid = you
toy = getting someone banned
parents = GM

you're like a lil' kid who nags for a toy from his parents but they just won't buy it for him.
well cuz in the kid's mind the parents can do everything. To him, they're superheroes.
but in the parents' minds they have to consider mortgages, bills, and other stuff to invest their hard earned money on.

see the connection? oh sure you can... you're SHERLOCK FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!!.

[Lovelylips]

we need some detail here:
GM WoW AMPM "does not recognize"/ tidak mengenali / tidak bertanggungjawab / tidak tahu menahu , tentang perdagangan / pertukaran account, characters, gold, dan item. *update rules*

sesuai peryataan diatas, kita juga tidak mengenali ada nya penipu didalam perdagangan, karena didalam wow sendiri sudah ada trade window dengan visual yang jelas (goldnya brapa, itemnya berapa, dll) yang membutuhkan 2 pihak memencet tombol "accept" jika menyetujui transaksi itu.
In case ada yang accept tanpa melihatnya dulu itu murni kesalah player nya sendiri (yes, we does recognize stupid people).

Semoga dimengerti.

[flo0pz]

In case ada yang accept tanpa melihatnya dulu itu murni kesalah player nya sendiri (yes, we do recognize stupid people).

Semoga dimengerti.

klo baca line ini masi gak ngerti juga asli dah lah angkat tangan gw

Einstein sendiri bilang:
"there are 2 things infinite, human stupidity and the universe. I'm not sure about the universe"

@LL / LovelyLips
bisa turunin jumla post gw gak? kebuang ne post gw gara2 nimbrung dsene halagh...

@sherlock
I was like you kid. seriously. coba lu cari thread MALB bikinan gw klo ga percaya (ato gak liat2 postingan2 gw lah)

[jc fanz]

Dah lah, cape dibahas sampe segimana panjang juga.
Emang gak nangkep2, udah dijelasin panjang lebar juga.

Anyway, why this thread still not yet closed ?
Kesimpulan tuh sebenarnya udah didapat )
Malah jadi ajang debat, yang gak jelas ujung2nya.

@sherlock
I was like you kid. seriously. coba lu cari thread MALB bikinan gw klo ga percaya (ato gak liat2 postingan2 gw lah)

Gue bantu jelasin buat si sherlock H. arti kata2 di atas :
"Dulu gue tuh anak kecil kaya lu, bukti nya bisa lu liat di thread MALB. Dan sekarang gue tuh udah om-om, tapi masih aja demen maen WoW"

[newton]

"Dulu gue tuh anak kecil kaya lu, bukti nya bisa lu liat di thread MALB. Dan sekarang gue tuh udah om-om, tapi masih aja demen maen WoW"

one word: EPIC