Update: PENIPU di jagat WOW IDGS (hati2 dengan list nick name berikut)

[Sherlock.H]

wow, you are really think too high of yourself

hah, I just realized that I typed defense, was going to type district. you seem proud? a hobo could tell those 2 apart as well.. was a mistake on my part, honest mistake.

see? you're missing the point. AGAIN (whoa didn't see that comin'. yea rite lol). OK so you walk into a neighborhood and see 5 guys hangin' round chillin relaxin all cool tryn shoot some b-ball outside-a school, n then they slipped some "contraband" in your pocket and call the Police. 5 guys against 1. their words against yours. Is that what you call justice? I call that **** HAPPENS.

what an utter *****! sure those 5 strangers want to set you up, they don't know you, they just want to see some stranger go to the prison... what is the chance of this happening ? lol, what an imagination...
oh sure, this is one big conspiracy, because we all want Iori to go down. because we want a stranger get banned for thing that he didn't do? another failure , really ?

geleng2 knape lu? mabok? oooo pantesan.... hahah... aaannyway... nah kan kepancing juga. tuker2an ID pake kontrak gak? lo sendiri lho yg bilang "CIRCUMSTANCIAL EVIDENCE" klo gak pake kontrak. Berarti itu thief gak bisa held accountable for his crimes donk? LOL. gotcha kid.

here's another lecture Mr engineer,
3 elements of contract:
1. Intention
2. Agreement, offer + accepted = agreement
3. Consideration, price paid in exchange for the promises both parties made
the 3 of them exist means contract.
1. intention, they have the intention to go with the trade, check
2. agreement, Iori offered to trade his char, and accepted by those people, check
3. consideration , A char for a char, check
therefore, contract exist. gotcha kid ? rofl, yeah right smells like someone is overconfidence, here... (yeah that someone is you)

that's just an example of an instance doing what they say they would. And NOT doing what they say they will NOT do. Stop focusing on the objects in my analogies so much and try to see the meaning behind it, not too much to ask I must say.

that line doesn't even make any sense, you gave an analogy then I gave you back the same exact analogy, with a complete perspective, and then you tell not to pay attention on it ? a simple word " I'm wrong " not gonna kill you, you know?

.....
what you're trying to do, is they MAKE A NEW RULE of "WILL BAN AN ID SUGGESTED OF SWEET-MOUTHING AN INNOCENT KID INTO GIVING THEIR PASSWORD". once again, YOU MADD?!?

So, you are saying that wanting a new set of rule so that a thief will be punished is mad thing to ask ? lol do you even think before you write ?

and MIND YOU that setting up a new RULES AND REGULATIONS comes with it's own IMPLICATIONS. The staff just weren't ready for that. It's like Risking making someone pregnant and not taking responsibility. YOU, who by all means have NO influence or power invested in this server WHATSOEVER (just a user for god's sake), are ORDERING the STAFF n GM's to do something that the repercussions they're not ready (and not willing) to deal with!!!

It's like you're forcing someone to have sex when they don't want to! gosh, how much clearer do I have to make this for you. Education's important, but I'm goin' on a limb here.

uhm, lets see, to regulate that a thief should be punished is an act that need to be thought thoroughly by every country in the world? lol, every country will pass that regulation in blink of an eye, don't even have to think it twice.
impregnate ? rofl, I told you, you are bad at giving scenarios.

do you even know how to differentiate ORDERING and ASKING, I am asking for it, in case your "bright" mind don't know how to differentiate between the 2.
again, forcing ? If anything, I am trying to persuade GM to sleep with me..

Stop making things up already..! back to reality, hello??


There is only one line in English that I used before you said that you are superior, and you can tell that you are superior from that line ? well unlike you, I have 2 long posts to consider before I say this " NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL YOU ARE SUPERIOR THAN ME IN TERMS OF ENGLISH "
Though I have to say, you are SUPERIOR in using THE language as a mean to disrespect others. bite me! rofl


you brought up an analogy, of course of I have to pay attention on it, otherwise why did you put it there in the first place ? dooh!!

I never say that we have to have a paradise-like world, all I was saying is a basic principle of LIFE that we need to uphold which is " all wrongdoers must be punished ". People aim for the highest, doesn't matter what the result would be.

No, I'm thinking my scenarios hit the mark quite well. I just think you're getting the wrong message, well lack of certain things does that to you I guess. I feel sorry for you, cuz' I think you're just suffering from some kind of mental illness. but I'll tell you one cure, works wonders trust me. Wanna know what that cure's called? its called GETTING A LIFE

when it hits the mark, it should be able to helped sending the message across(as a scenario should), in case you haven't notice that yet, it FAILED, miserably.
Oh I have a life, a great one actually. I'm guessing you don't, not a great one at least, look at you all grown up(as you acclaimed), yet sitting here arguing with a KID like me and not even able to prevail.

Unlawful termination? actually it's quite lawful. The company could just state in their defense that... you lack certain qualities as an employee... or some **** like that. hell it's their company, they can say whatever the **** they want about your performance. They have the power to pull stunts like that. YOU, on the other hand as a meager employee, does NOT.

oh yeah, they can't fired me for nagging, pretty sure about this. If I lack certain qualities as their employee, this should be spotted before they hire me. The fact that I have been hired, means I meet their minimum requirement, at least.
yeah, you watched too much movies that now you are living in that world, big conspiracy happening around us, out of the blue? firm staging the performance evaluation records, so they can get rid of 1 employee that nag.. there is such a record you see, and the authority will not just rely on the records, they will ask around ( co-workers and all that ), you want to say another big conspiracy happening? what else can you come up with? seriously? back to reality hello!!!

prefect analogy? yeah..... that doesn't work either...
I ask GM to punish the wrongdoer , if the wrongdoers didn't get punished, it would cost losses to other people.
using your analogy, I ask parents to buy me toy, if I didn't get the toy, it would cost losses to other people, doesn't quite work right ?
aside form that, they toy could actually benefit me, in this case I don't get any benefit, whatsoever.
and parents won't keep ignoring their child, I don't know about your parents though, but normally they will full it at least once, so is that means that there is hope for me to get that person banned if I keep on nagging ? they will full fill it eventually, no right ? ROFL FAILED, again, normal people should understand when to stop, apparently you keep on giving bad analogy..

You were like me? you were nothing like me, that much is clear to me.


@jc fanz, like to the max!!

yah stlh di persuade, gm nya masi ga mau, yah apa mau di kata, spt yg gw tulis di post pertama gw di thread ini, nyerah... deh.. lol


panjang cok, kalo di lanjutin, selesai summer, jadi 1 novel gw...

[billal130380]

sial...jadi seru begini...awalnya TS cuma kasih info ttg penipu ID...sherlock.H dah pernah kasih info mengenai salah satu nick tersebut (Iori)...dan korban bertambah banyak...1 hal yang bikin gue geram dengan pelaku...GAK PUNYA MALU! pertama ngajak gue WTT mage dengan shaman...kedua kali setelah ngeliat gear shaman gue dia ngajak WTT dengan char yang gearnya setara (bukannya mau sombong, tp shaman gue 4 sancti frostborn regalia, kalung BQL, cincin valanar, DFO)...

buat agan2 sekalian, tolong donk temen2nya dikasih tau biar gak jadi korban...GM gak bisa turun tangan langsung untuk menangani kasus ini, jadi gue minta kita sendiri yang ngatasi masalah ini...untuk sementara, mending waspada ama nick2 yang udah dikasih tau ama TS...kalo perlu jgn WTT dulu ama player yang kredibilitasnya diragukan...kasih aja sanksi sosial biar dia kapok maen WoW sekalian...istilahnya kita gusur tuh lapaknya dia...persempit ruang geraknya...gue yakin selama gak ada yang ngerespon tingkah lakunya dia,lama2 dia pasti bosen sendiri...

[kopisusu]

Saya menghargai debat dan pendapat kalian, but please do in proper way sesuai dengan peraturan yang ada di forum ini. Please dont use F* word atau racist remark like N*gga.
Fl00pz dari dulu dah dikasi tahu tetap kelepasan mulu nih

Untuk kasus topik ini , tim GM tetap pada pendirian dan keputusan kami. Tidak akan ada yang berubah.

[newton]

maaf ya gan, tapi setelah gw liat2 dan baca2 thread2 sebelumnya dengan SS dan sebagainya. si iori itu baru ngajakin trade char (walaupun sebagian besar dari kita udah tau dia itu nipu). dan om sherlock "mengarahkan" atau kasarnya "menjebak" dia ke arah penipuan walaupun si iori itu "belum melakukan penipuan" sama om sherlock.

gini om sherlock. kalo emang pengen yg melakukan penipuan itu di-ban. saran gw berusaha nya jgn spesifik kasus iori ini aja. tapi general. artinya, proposal yg diangkat bukan "gw pengen penipu (dalam hal ini iori) diban" tapi "yang namanya WTT harus dilarang, sehingga yg melakukan (baik penipu maupun korban) bisa dihukum".

soalnya seperti ada yg post sebelumnya, kalo terlalu spesifik ke kasus ini (iori) implikasi ke depannya terlalu ribet dan repot. variasi kejadiannya bakalan banyak (akibat rules yg ngga general) dan bakalan berujung pada banyak e-drama pula, yg akhirnya hanya wasting time para GM mikirin beginian padahal waktunya bisa dipake buat ngurusin hal2 yg lebih game-essential (kayak dungeon, raid, boss, quest, dll).

gw coba ambil contoh pelaku cheat ya. kenapa cheat dilarang dan pelaku nya di ban? karena merugikan server (dan komunitas). penggunaan cheat dan sejenisnya memeberikan beban pada server, menyebabkan lag, dc, sehingga merusak gameplay dari wow itu. selain itu komunitas jg terganggu karena tidak adanya fairplay. 1 orang ngecheat, server dc, satu komunitas kena dampaknya.

tapi kalo penipuan wtt,
oke lah penipu wtt itu juga merugikan komunitas. tapi secara teknis tidak merugikan server dan tidak menggangu gameplay. yg terganggu hanyalah komunitas dari segi sosialnya aj, terutama si korban tipu. nah karena kerugian yg diakibatkan masih sebatas lingkup keresahan sosial dan tidak terlalu urgent. jadinnya untuk sementara lebih baik kalau yg namanya penipu itu sangsi nya dalam lingkup sosial aja dulu (dengan cara BL, ignore, warning, dll) dan GM sudah memfasilitasi hal itu melalui forum (makanya bikin id sekarang harus punya id forum, biar player aware).

ya, memang penjahat harus dihukum. keadilan harus ditegakkan. setuju. tapi kalo effort yg harus dikeluarkan terlalu besar untuk sesuatu yg sebenernya tidak berdampak terlalu signifikan. rasanya saat ini belum perlu.
masa iya maling ayam harus dihukum pancung, sedangkan koruptor penjara 3 bulan. (maaf kalo analogi nya salah, irelevan, atau ngaco. gw gak ahli beranalogi hehehe)
mungkin segitu aja dulu saran dari gw.

[billal130380]

intinya sih, kalo gue bilang si Iori, Anson, dll ini sesungguhnya hanyalah penjahat kelas teri...tp malah kita yang bikin dia jadi kek penjahat besar...ni orang kagak bisa di BAN, apa yang bisa kita lakukan? coba baca saran gue deh...ignore aja dan lanjutkan kesibukan kalian di Azeroth seolah2 dia tidak ada...ini game sosial, kita berinteraksi dengan player laen meski hanya di game...gak kebayang gue maen game ini tanpa ngobrol ama player2 laen...terisolasi sendiri di dunia yang sebenarnya cukup rame...pasti bosen sendiri...

yang namanya penipu pasti selalu dimulai dengan kata2 manis...kalo pake kata2 kasar bukan nipu namanya...tp malak....

[newton]

wew, banner kuning pun melayang....

turut berduka cita.

om sherlock sebagai yg berusaha untuk menegakkan keadilan untuk para penipu wtt dan korbannya.

om floopz sebagai salah satu aktivis e-drama di forum ini.

[Sekedarcoba]

Saya menghargai debat dan pendapat kalian, but please do in proper way sesuai dengan peraturan yang ada di forum ini. Please dont use F* word atau racist remark like N*gga.
Fl00pz dari dulu dah dikasi tahu tetap kelepasan mulu nih

Untuk kasus topik ini , tim GM tetap pada pendirian dan keputusan kami. Tidak akan ada yang berubah.

ud kelar kan om GM?monggo mas momod d closed

wew, banner kuning pun melayang....

turut berduka cita.

om sherlock sebagai yg berusaha untuk menegakkan keadilan untuk para penipu wtt dan korbannya.

om floopz sebagai salah satu aktivis e-drama di forum ini.

dan para junkerz pun akan +1 sblm thread ini d closed

[Zilong]

Menurut saya point dari masalah ini sudah sangat jelas. TS mengatakan bahwa "hati-hati dengan nick sekian-sekian..., mereka penipu. Saya yakin orang-orang yang mampir ke halaman ini pasti akan masuk thread ini kalo melihat judulnya[dari kata-katanya saja "Penipu" sudah sangat menarik]. Penipu itu kan kalau bole diibaratkan sama seperti VIRUS yang memiliki berbagai macam wujud,dan pandai bersilat lidah[biasanya sih]. Seperti yang pernah kita dengar "Jangan mudah percaya kepada orang yang baru anda kenal". Seperti yang dikatakan saudara ch4ku: lebih baik "From Zero to Hero" character yang dibangun dengan jerih payah sendiri lebih membanggakan daripada mendapat dari orang lain. Saudara floopz pendapatnya sudah sangat bagus/berbobot, poinnya pun sudah sangat jelas. Tapi apa yang dikatakan GM sangat benar, kata-kata anda memang terkesan kasar, saya yakin bukan hanya orang dewasa saja yang melihat komentar kita disini, anak dibawah umur pun pasti ada yg melihat. Saudara TS dan Floops saling mempertahankan idealisme mereka, memang seperti itulah sebuah perdebatan, smua pihak yang bersangkutan bebas mempertahankan pendapat masing-masing hingga keputusan akhir dari GM yang terhormat. Tapi bukankah lebih baik kalau setiap pendapat kita tidak dikotori dengan kata-kata kasar. Maaf jikalau ada salah kalimat. Turut berduka untuk yang diberi Banner Kuning, Saya harap pihak yang bersangkutan menerima keputusan GM yang terhormat dengan lapang dada.

[F1shF4c3]

I was like you kid. seriously. coba lu cari thread MALB bikinan gw klo ga percaya (ato gak liat2 postingan2 gw lah)

^ini ... dijelaskan oleh ini :

Gue bantu jelasin buat si sherlock H. arti kata2 di atas :
"Dulu gue tuh anak kecil kaya lu, bukti nya bisa lu liat di thread MALB. Dan sekarang gue tuh udah om-om, tapi masih aja demen maen WoW"

terlalu banyak wall text di thread ini ...

dan dia kelepasan lagi ... Nig** ...

muhuhahaha ...

[terrable]

Saya anggota guild dia yang dulu
sekarang nick itu udah di ban
semoga nggak ada yang menganggap guild kami isinya orang kaa gitu
keputusan untuk kick dia udah matang dan dia udah keluar

[Foopunkster01]

emang guild apa gan klo boleh tau ?? selow aja kan itu individu pasti kan beda " sifat na

[gilawow]

Out of Topic:
WoW my intelegent has increased by +100 points just by reading to this Thread.. AWESOME!
I really love the debate between Sherlock.H & Fl0opz it's 2nd best debate after the Rotolatoz guild thingy (the one that insult AMPM player); if i was born as a girl i'd say "i lov* u guys.." unfortunately i'm not so i'd just say "very smart discussion with some extra-ordinary examples keep up the good works.. wish to see more Posts from both of you"
too bad both of you got "banned" status.. anyone care to explain it to me why they got their ID "banned"? (is it because of their harsh language?)

Back to Topic:
udah jelas KK GM berkata mereka tidak ikut serta dalam ban-ID penipu jadi ya sesuai kata2 kk Fl0opz ID kita, kita sendirilah yang harus pandai2 mengurusnya..
singkat kata sayangi ID kita, daripada WTT/WTS lebih baik bikin ID baru naekin dari level 1 sampai GG along the way kita mengenal teman2, guild, bahkan beberapa player yg super annoying dan berakhir di BL/ignored list kita..

salah satu cara menghukum Penipu ID ya dengan cara saat dia online kita langsung ngomong2 di /alliance atau /horde "hati2 dengan nick Iori penipu tuh bla bla (berikut alasan)" jadinya player lain bisa aware.. smoga dapet membantu

Best Regards
-=Hiro=-

[daman]

aku pernah di ajak wtt ma iori,,,char paladin ku,,tp aku ga mau,,dia nya maksa,,,ga pernah mau berhenti,,

[dreamhigh]

ini ane cuma nyampein pesan dari temen ane.

Untuk TS buat nick FLAKDOR ( Hunter Troll Horde ) dia penipu juga. dia IORI dan nick yang ada di sana.
pasti banyak yg nanya2 knpa ko bisa FLAKDOR di bawa2.

gini masalahnya :

Kemarin banget ane wips temen ane FLAKDOR ternyata udh pindah tangan. engga lama kemudian temen ane wips pake char lvl 1 dia abis WTT sama nick IORI. katanya di iming2 char Mage(alliance nick anson itu). nah dia dengan polosnya WTT aja dengan charnya sendiri (flakdor). nah sewaktu mau WTT kena tipu dah dia. tapi pinternya temen ane udah siapin ganti password langsung on. nah waktu id sama pass yang IORI kasih salah dia langsung masukin ID sama passwordnya sendiri ternyata bisa. di situ temen ane langsung ganti psswordnya lagi. kedua kalinya juga sama dia nipu mumpung temen ane udah siap2 lagi. dan katanya temen ane punya SSnya. nah langsung dah temen ane nyebarin luas nick IORI dkk itu. akhirnya iori ngasih password sama idnya yang mage dan iya lumayan buat main2 di SW "masalahnya temen ane ga suka hunter" dari pada ga di mainin mending coba mage. dan WTT lah mereka(sukses no tipu dia) karena takut di sebar luaskan lagi. dan dia NGEMIS NGEMIS minta bersih namanya dari tipuan.hahaha lol

jadi intinya nick anson(mage alliance) sudah bukan di tangan iori dkk tapi di temen ane.
dan nick FLAKDOR (hunter horde) sudah di tangan iori dkk.

jadi NICK FLAKDOR ITU IORI DKK. nick ANSON MAGE ALLIANCE sudah bukan di tangan IORI.
jadi tolong katanya pembebasan BL nick ANSON MAGE ALLIANCE.

pesan dari temen ane misalnya ga percaya SSnya nyusul. itu juga kalo warnetnya ga sistem hapus data.
makasih.

[jincuriki]

kaka mau tanya dong, daftar wow ampm nya dima si? reply pls