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    Default pembahasan damage Ferocious Bite druid feral

    ane mau ngebahas nih damage ferocious bite...
    bisa dilihat SS dibawah ini (SS combat log pas dalam arena)

    Spoiler untuk ss :


    ferocious bite 5125 physical (2113 absorbed) (3326 overkill) (critical) = 10565 damage

    wajar damage segini??
    mari dilihat perhitungan damage nya

    Spoiler untuk perhitungan :

    Data Sauvages
    Spoiler untuk ss sauvages :

    Spoiler untuk ss talent sauvages :
    Spoiler untuk talent1 :


    Spoiler untuk talent2 :


    Spoiler untuk talent3 :


    Spoiler untuk talent4 :

    • attack power cat form = 11551 (+ true shot aura + mark of wild)
    • arpen = reduce armor 26% = armor reduction 74%


    Data Pho
    Spoiler untuk ss pho :

    • resilience 1302 = reduce damage 27.62% = 72.38% damage reduction
    • resilience 1302 = reduce crit damage 30.38% = 69.62% critical damage reduction
    • armor 5104 = 25.10% damage reduction


    kondisi
    • ketemu di arena, dengan comp wlp vs jungle cleave (healer shaman)



    bonus damage/crit damage/reduce damage
    • talent feral agression 0/5 : inc damage ferocious strike by 0%
    • predatory instinct 3/3 : inc damage form melee crit strikes by 10%
    • naturalist 5/5 : inc damage physical by 10%
    • armor reduction : armor pho * armor reduction arpen sauvages = 5104 * 74% = 3778 armor = 19.85% damage reduction from armor = 80.15% armor reduction
    • relentless earthsiege diamond : inc 3% crit damage



    formula
    • Ferocious Bite(5cp, 35 energy) Damage: 0.35 * attack_power + 1570
      Data for rank 8 Ferocious Bite from mmo-champion.
    • Ferocious Bite Extra-Energy-to-Damage: (9.4 + 0.0024 * attack_power) * extra_energy
      Data for rank 8 Ferocious Bite from wowhead.


    source : http://www.google.co.id/url?sa=t&rct...1UaS_Nuah6N-ww

    source tambahan : http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=...moves-in-wotlk


    kalkulasi dan perbandingan

    attack power cat = 11551 + proc dbw agility + proc encan senjata moongose + proc cincin av = 14500

    Aktual Damage yang tercatat di Recount akan tertulis dengan format:
    [Ability] (Critical Damage)
    Dibawahnya terdapat detail Damage Modifier dan Critical Damage Modifier serta Kalkulasi Damage seharusnya

    [Ferocious Bite] (10565)
    Code:
    kalkulasi damage = (Ferocious Bite 5cp + Ferocious Bite Extra-Energy-to-Damage) * naturalist * armor reduction * damage reduct resi
                     = (0.35 * attack_power + 1570 + (9.4 + 0.0024 * attack_power)*30) * 110% * 80.15% * 72.38%
                     = (0.35 * 14500 + 1570 + (9.4 + 0.0024 * 14500)*30) * 110% * 80.15% * 72.38%
                     = 5089
    
    kalkulasi critical damage = damage * crit damage bonus * predatory instinct * metta socket * reduce crit damage resi
                              = 5089 * 200% * 110% * 103% * 69.62%
                              = 8029


    Spoiler untuk kesimpulan :
    • scale damage ferocious bite error



    edit :
    ini perhitungan make savage roar ama tiger fury trus penambahan attackpower cat nya..
    Spoiler untuk perhitungan2 :
    kalkulasi dan perbandingan

    attack power cat = 11551 + proc dbw strength + proc encan senjata moongose + proc cincin av + proc idol = 11550 + 1400 + 120 + 480 + 132 = 13802 = bulatin ke 14000

    Aktual Damage yang tercatat di Recount akan tertulis dengan format:
    [Ability] (Critical Damage)
    Dibawahnya terdapat detail Damage Modifier dan Critical Damage Modifier serta Kalkulasi Damage seharusnya

    [Ferocious Bite] (10565)
    Code:
    kalkulasi damage = ((Ferocious Bite 5cp + Ferocious Bite Extra-Energy-to-Damage) + tigerfury) * naturalist * savage roar * armor reduction * damage reduct resi
                     = ((0.35 * attack_power + 1570 + (9.4 + 0.0024 * attack_power)*30)+80) * 110% * 130% * 80.15% * 72.38%
                     = ((0.35 * 14000 + 1570 + (9.4 + 0.0024 * 14000)*30)+80) * 110% * 130% * 80.15% * 72.38%
                     = 6504
    
    kalkulasi critical damage = damage * crit damage bonus * predatory instinct * metta socket * reduce crit damage resi
                              = 6504 * 200% * 110% * 103% * 69.62%
                              = 10261


    edit2 :
    perhitungan menggunakan druid lain :
    Spoiler untuk druid lain :
    Data
    Target: Grandmaster's Training Dummy (level 80)
    Attack Power = 7298
    Spoiler untuk ss druid :



    Kondisi
    • talent druid ini sama persis dengan talent sauvages
    • tidak menggunakan equip yg bisa proc nambahin attpow
    • menggunakan skill claw sampai cp 5
    • savage roar update terus
    • ferocious bite digunakan dalam keadaan cp 5, energi 100, dan tiger fury dalam keadaan nyala
    • menggunakan glyph of savage roar : your savage roar grants an additional 3% damage


    Bonus Damage / Critical Damage
    • predatory instinct 3/3 : inc damage from melee crit strikes by 10%
    • naturalist 5/5 : inc damage physical by 10%
    • Relentless Earthsiege Diamond : inc crit damage 3%
    • glyph of savage roar : your savage roar grants an additional 3% damage
    • armor reduction grandmaster training dummy = 10643 armor (+/- 41% pengurangan damage) = 51% armor reduction
    • source armor dummy : http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t37584-w...armor_testing/


    Kalkulasi dan Perbandingan
    Aktual Damage yang tercatat di Recount akan tertulis dengan format:
    [Ability] = Normal Damage (Critical Damage)
    Dibawahnya terdapat detail Damage Modifier dan Critical Damage Modifier serta Kalkulasi Damage seharusnya

    [Ferocious Bite] = 4451 (10131)
    Code:
    kalkulasi damage = ((Ferocious Bite 5cp + Ferocious Bite Extra-Energy-to-Damage) + tigerfury) * naturalist * savage roar * armor reduction
                     = ((0.35 * attack_power + 1570 + (9.4 + 0.0024 * attack_power) * 30) + 80) * 110% * 133% * 51%
                     = ((0.35 * 7298 + 1570 + (9.4 + 0.0024 * 7298) * 30) + 80) * 110% * 133% * 51%
                     = 3740
    
    kalkulasi critical damage = damage * crit damage bonus * predatory instinct * metta socket
                              = 3740 * 200% * 110% * 103%
                              = 8475
    Spoiler untuk bukti damage :



    kesimpulan :
    • damage fericious bite error

    Last edited by bloodyx; 31-08-12 at 09:24.

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    damage overkill damage dari apa si? saya baru tau soalnya >.<

    oh iya anda lupa sama savage roar ya gan? increase phisical damage 30% & saya pasti pake ferociouse bite setelah tiger fury yg isi energi 60 dari talent + tiger fury skillnya nambah damage done 80, gua gak ngerti deh kalkulasinya, itung sendiri aja ya hehe.

    sorry nih gak ada link, soalnya di cata udah berubah fungsi. kalo mau minta link silahkan temui saya aja.

    lagian saya juga baru icc kok damage gak ada yg berubah masih sama seperti dulu.

    lagian gan, kalo damage feral eror atau gak bener, harusnya di ampm udah banyak feral imba, tapi kok feral sepi ya?
    Last edited by oyaayo13; 26-08-12 at 21:05.

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    di ampm emang kalo kalah pasti yang menang ngebug kok, kalo menang beda cerita ini,

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    Biar ga kerasa eror damagena makana maen pake warrior protect gan

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    gw dpt quote imba of the year nih
    " Wkwk, gw maen shaman resto digetak chaos bolt 10k diem2 aja ini warlock digetak ferocius bite bilang ngebug"

    Quote Originally Posted by aliefiona
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    attack power cat = 11551 + proc dbw agility + proc encan senjata moongose + proc cincin av = 14500 jgn lupa di tambah trueshot aura

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudunkz21 View Post
    gw dpt quote imba of the year nih
    " Wkwk, gw maen shaman resto digetak chaos bolt 10k diem2 aja ini warlock digetak ferocius bite bilang ngebug"
    lebih ke pembahasan ini si ts minta saran segini wajar apa ga
    ya di sini ketabok shaman ele warlock juga dalem

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    ya gw juga minta saran ele wajar ga ya lagi di fear masuk 9k cb, resi 1200
    btw, mana ada sejarah ele menang lawan wl, sini gw sembah elenya

    dah lama kan ya maen ampm kk? emang wajar sih yang menang ngebug, yang kalah lapor

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    mungkin tar ada pembahasan damage yang lain...
    gw juga ngerasain hp 15K dalam durasi death coil mati di rotasi wl
    padahal gw resi 1300 pake tameng hahaha
    Last edited by beesinv; 26-08-12 at 10:48.

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    Lol, lawan komp jarang trus kaget liat damagenya. Sebelum bilang aneh diskusi dl coba sama tmn2nya. Jgn apa2 udah di bilang aneh. Kalah lapor, menang diem aja ya (bug Thunder Clapnya di pake terus ya biar menang)
    Last edited by sikhan; 26-08-12 at 13:01. Reason: gk enak ngomong bug

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikhan View Post
    Lol, lawan komp jarang trus kaget liat damagenya. Sebelum bilang aneh diskusi dl coba sama tmn2nya. Jgn apa2 udah di bilang aneh. Kalah lapor, menang diem aja ya (bug Thunder Clapnya di pake terus ya biar menang)
    loh itu sumber dari offi resmi dah ada ..

    bug tc itu ya dari sini ga di fix2 gw pake seh skill yang nyala aja kalo ga pengen di bug ya tinggal disable tc di warrior beres kan?
    kalah baru lapor? kagak deh gan ini ntar juga bakal bahas secara global ga cuman feral aja
    yang jadi problem di sini wajar apa ga nya bukan menang ato ga arenanya
    kalo niat oot bug tc ya gpp biar di fix juga sekalian kan?
    Last edited by beesinv; 26-08-12 at 14:35.

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    itu kalkulasi diatas dah ditambahin buff savage roar +30% ?
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    put this in your calculation too

    rend and tear

    tigers fury
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    feral emg sakit, tp empuk. apalagi itu stack agi, digetok warior mencret2 pasti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltuzard View Post
    put this in your calculation too

    rend and tear

    tigers fury
    ^
    ^
    ^

    nah ini jgn lupa loh

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