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    mak nyus tenan
    INITIAL DAMAGE dari Echo itu PURE, nembus magic immunity, magic resistance, armor!
    ECHO DAMAGE dari Echo itu MAGIC, keblok magic immunity, dikurangi magic resistance, g dipengaruhi armor!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asquall View Post
    mak nyus tenan
    INITIAL DAMAGE dari Echo itu PURE, nembus magic immunity, magic resistance, armor!
    ECHO DAMAGE dari Echo itu MAGIC, keblok magic immunity, dikurangi magic resistance, g dipengaruhi armor!!!

    Sono baca forum dota-allstars!
    hehehe....

    kk banyak tau nih....
    ebat2.....

    krn gw ngefans bgt ama ini hero...

    sampai2 pasang gambarnya <<<<<<<<<<<<<

    ^^

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    mw tanya.. Images diitung Units ga? (conjure images, wall of replica, manta style, phantasm)

    dan gimana kalau Divided We Stand? apa diitung 4 Unit?

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    hmm...

    Initial Damage ga Pure tp Magic, jadi biar ga diblok Magic Immune masi dikurangin Spell Resist...

    image diitung unit kok, clone juga sama...
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    @endless
    are you sure?
    rasanya wa ga liat di changelog klo diubah koq
    aq baca di forumnya klo initial damage itu pure, jadi tembus magic immunity...
    dicoba deh, soalnya wa juga jadi bingung, rasanya blon diubah...

    wew, baru nyadar nih, elo nulisnya "ga diblok ma magic immune tapi dikurangi magic resistance"
    engga kk, magic immunity itu blok SEMUA MAGIC DAMAGE, walo efek spell elo masih jalan, misalnya elo Fiend's Grip Naix lagi Avatar, biar damage nya g kena, tapi dia tetep ke-disable.

    clone itu tetep diitung, cuma image g yakin, soalnya klo image nya ilang abis digebok initial damage???? Kan g nimbulin corpse... Yang wa pengen tau itu echo kena Revenant ga ya??? Blon pernah coba, n belon pernah baca d forum...

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    @^

    yah cek aja guide buatan si danat ya, di Mechanics > Guide and List > cari tuh hero spell damage and type ^^
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    nah itu yang bikin gw bingung T_T
    aku mengasumsikan yang dipake itu dmg echonya, bukan initial dmgnya...
    tanya ma antiwielchen ahhh...

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    @^

    klo emank kaya gitu gmn ama Rupture ?

    damagenya Pure, tp masi diblok BKB ?

    Initial Damage Echo tembus BKB kan karena emank dari Base Spell-nya...
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    iya kk >.<
    ngaku salah neh...
    waktu wa liat di forum, tuh ada yang jawab...
    Nembus karena basisnya Fan of Knives...
    Jadi dmgnya magic.... T_T
    berarti yang jadi acuan gw waktu itu salah deh....
    Maap maap >> all

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    Jadi Intial Damagenya gak pure donk? Masih dikurangi ama spell resistance?

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    iya kk
    termasuk dmg echonya (mmmm, yg blon kelar, dmg echonya itu tembus magic immune kagak yah? )

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    @^

    Echo damage ga tembus Magic Immune...

    yg cast kan dummy unit...
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    Tembus ato ga tembus, tetep nyakitin ati kalo kena kill. skil yang imba bgt. pazti meepo ma azwraith sakit ati bgt ya, ma hero nie. hehe

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    waw
    tapi rasa2nya dulu sewaktu wa liat org pake naix itu mati koq waktu di echo. Dia lagi avatar loh... ato mungkin yang wa liat itu sewaktu avatarnya maw abis yah?
    maap kk, cuma buat beberapa skill itu saya kurang ngerti, apalagi yang triggered (walo ini kagak), maklum, g punya akses ke code nya... cuma berdasar baca2 di forum asli ^^

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    nih ada kutipan dikit dari forum dota-allstars.com...

    Echo Slam Mechanics:


    • The initial wave of Echo Slam damages everything within 500 range of Raigor. The area of effect is calculated right when Echo Slam is cast so if a hero runs out of the AoE after Raigor casts it, the waves will follow the hero out of the area.
    • The echoing waves affect everything within 500 range of each unit that the initial wave ricocheted off of, so the echo waves can potentially hit a unit that is nearly 1000 range away from Raigor but units have to be within 250 range of Raigor to get hit by both the initial wave and all of the echo waves.
    • Although it does not affect them, Echo Slam bounces off of invisible units, magic-immune units, corpses, and units that are in the process of dying. The fact that it works with corpses is extremely helpful for using Echo Slam with Refresher Orb because you can effectively get the full damage twice even if almost everything died during the first cast.
    • The initial wave actually deals 165/235/285 but each unit is hit by its own echo wave, so it evens out to 200/275/350 damage to a single unit like the spell says.
    • The initial wave (165/235/285) damages magic-immune units but the echo waves do not.
    • Echo Slam works by creating a dummy unit in place of each unit in the AoE. This is why it bounces off of units that it can’t actually target.

    udah belum???

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