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    Default My mistake then...

    Ah...I see.

    My bad for not noticing the previous post as in #11.

    I thought it was all about the grammar mistakes.

    (well, duh I'm still learning to.)

    I looked over the problems here, and yet...

    I tried to barge in, resulting in an Out-Of-Topic post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzerArcacia View Post
    Ah...I see.

    My bad for not noticing the previous post as in #11.

    I thought it was all about the grammar mistakes.

    (well, duh I'm still learning to.)

    I looked over the problems here, and yet...

    I tried to barge in, resulting in an Out-Of-Topic post.

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    It's solved then :smile:

    We are learning together anyway.
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    Default By the way...

    What is the difference between these two sentences?

    I like to study

    and

    I like studying.

    I'm having a difficulty in these two sentences. My lecturer ask me this question and

    as a result for not answering the question correctly, I was forced to take this as my own homework.

    Is there any difference between them?

    they all look same for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzerArcacia View Post
    What is the difference between these two sentences?

    I like to study

    and

    I like studying.

    I'm having a difficulty in these two sentences. My lecturer ask me this question and

    as a result for not answering the question correctly, I was forced to take this as my own homework.

    Is there any difference between them?

    they all look same for me.

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    The following is completely my opinion. inch:

    I like to study.
    The sentence shows that the subject likes to study. This sentence does not have a noun. If I am not mistaken, to study is also considered as a verb - since no nouns could be placed after a to infinitive.

    If your lecturer asked the difference. I could say that the difference is - the second sentence has a noun.
    The word: studying can be considered as an activity which is categorized as a noun.

    Other examples:
    I like swimming
    I like reading
    I like public speaking

    All of them are activities (nouns), the same things with studying. :tense:
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    and another opt...

    I like to study. <<< after "to" word, the next word must be a Verb 1... (normal word(s), such as study, go, etc..)

    I like studying. <<< there's no "to" word... explanation will be the same like RiX's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiX777 View Post
    The following is completely my opinion. inch:

    I like to study.
    The sentence shows that the subject likes to study. This sentence does not have a noun. If I am not mistaken, to study is also considered as a verb - since no nouns could be placed after a to infinitive.

    If your lecturer asked the difference. I could say that the difference is - the second sentence has a noun.
    The word: studying can be considered as an activity which is categorized as a noun.

    Other examples:
    I like swimming
    I like reading
    I like public speaking

    All of them are activities (nouns), the same things with studying. :tense:
    :smile:

    I see. So the second sentence is considered as a sentence which has noun.

    But If it's just that simple, why would they (native speakers) bother make two

    different sentences with the same meaning?

    Is it just another way to express something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzerArcacia View Post
    :smile:

    I see. So the second sentence is considered as a sentence which has noun.

    But If it's just that simple, why would they (native speakers) bother make two

    different sentences with the same meaning?

    Is it just another way to express something?
    I don't know :tense:

    Yeah maybe that's true, it should be the same meaning but another way to express it.

    Then - have you got the answer from your lecturer?
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    Default Not yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by RiX777 View Post
    I don't know :tense:

    Yeah maybe that's true, it should be the same meaning but another way to express it.

    Then - have you got the answer from your lecturer?
    Not yet. I will attend his class on the Monday.

    Therefore, I asked my brother about this problem and he said,

    "I like to study means you ought to study because you think it's important. You study because you want to success in the future."

    "As for I like studying, it means you study because study is one of your hobby."

    About his comment. I don't really get it.

    I just can't understand his expressing study as a hobby.

    Well, if it's 'I like reading' and 'I like to read'; I would agree with him.

    But still...

    It's studying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzerArcacia View Post
    Not yet. I will attend his class on the Monday.

    Therefore, I asked my brother about this problem and he said,

    "I like to study means you ought to study because you think it's important. You study because you want to success in the future."

    "As for I like studying, it means you study because study is one of your hobby."

    About his comment. I don't really get it.

    I just can't understand his expressing study as a hobby.

    Well, if it's 'I like reading' and 'I like to read'; I would agree with him.

    But still...

    It's studying.

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    Maybe there is more suitable term other than 'hobby'... We could consider it as an activity.

    But, you might agree with your brother if the sentence should be written as:
    I like to study chapter by chapter.
    I like to study as much as I can in one day.
    I like to study steadily.
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    There are different definitions of "hobby" in different countries.

    UK Countries (England,Ireland,etc) define hobby as an activity that produce something.
    In short, they DON'T say Sleeping or Eating is a hobby, but "an activity that people do in free time"
    They DO say Fishing or Sewing is a hobby, because it produce something. Produced things don't have to be a material or something that can be touched or seen, but also something that cannot.

    In other countries, "hobby" has two definitions I mentioned above.
    In short, they say Sleeping or Eating is a hobby, so do for Fishing or Sewing.

    So, never answer "What is your hobby?" with "Sleeping" in IELTS

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    @AzerArcacia: Er, uh, you've been making mistakes. It's Correct me if I'm wrong, missing to be there.

    @CaLLizeR: IMO, eating can be categorised as hobby. Normally, people eat to fulfill their needs. But some people eat only because they love eating, these cases, ultimately, will result in obesity. As for sleeping, I agree with you because you can't sleep when you're not sleepy.

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    There are different definitions of "hobby" in different countries.

    UK Countries (England,Ireland,etc) define hobby as an activity that produce something.
    In short, they DON'T say Sleeping or Eating is a hobby, but "an activity that people do in free time"
    They DO say Fishing or Sewing is a hobby, because it produce something. Produced things don't have to be a material or something that can be touched or seen, but also something that cannot.

    In other countries, "hobby" has two definitions I mentioned above.
    In short, they say Sleeping or Eating is a hobby, so do for Fishing or Sewing.

    So, never answer "What is your hobby?" with "Sleeping" in IELTS
    In that case...Is "studying" considered as a hobby?

    @AzerArcacia: Er, uh, you've been making mistakes. It's Correct me if I'm wrong, missing to be there.
    thanks. By the way...where are the other mistakes? (well you did say mistakes, not mistake right?)

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    As long u don't keep a british guy as a foe for talking, a little mistake in english will be not a problem. And to be honest, i'm using more american english than british, it's not sucks but too much troubling me. Just like indonesian, "saya mau makan nasi sayur di warteg dulu ya, teman" or "gw mau makan dolo di warteg bro".
    Well even we are true native speakers for indonesian, but oftenly we make so much mistakes. And we usually done the second sentences mostly.
    But as long our speaking partners got what our words, there is no problem anymore.
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    i very bad in english lesson. can you all teach me english language ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPONGERS View Post
    i very bad in english lesson. can you all teach me english language ?
    just read all the lessons in this sub bro ..

    You'll get it eventually

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