All About Naruto

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Kruszzz 1 saran buad lo !!!!

Jangan terlalu menjudge kalo yondaime uda mati !!!

Namanya dunia khayalan smua bisa terjadi !!!!

Pikiran kita sedang di permainkan oleh kishi sensei !!!! :thanks:

Jadi jangan terlalu yakin atas smua yg u yakinin karena smua yang u yakinin blom tentu bener !!!!

No offense

Smua teori ada chancenya !!! orang kishi juga blom tulis ampe abis kan !!!
Jadi jangan sok tau dengan mengeliminasi kemungkinan yang u ga setuju

Tq No offense !!! sori kalo ada yg tersinggung !!!
Demi kemajuan thread

[Uchiha-Sassuke]

yondaime ga mati..

dia sedang berkelana untuk mencari kekuatan

menyemournakan sebuah jurus yang merupakan advance dari rasengan

dia kehilangan kendali atas 1/2 bagian tubuhnya karena menyegel kyuubi ke dalam naruto

ia pergi juga untuk memulihkan kondisi tubuhnya...




^_^
NGACOOOWWWW................

^_^

[krusszz]

Kruszzz 1 saran buad lo !!!!

Jangan terlalu menjudge kalo yondaime uda mati !!!

Namanya dunia khayalan smua bisa terjadi !!!!

Pikiran kita sedang di permainkan oleh kishi sensei !!!! :thanks:

Jadi jangan terlalu yakin atas smua yg u yakinin karena smua yang u yakinin blom tentu bener !!!!

No offense

Smua teori ada chancenya !!! orang kishi juga blom tulis ampe abis kan !!!
Jadi jangan sok tau dengan mengeliminasi kemungkinan yang u ga setuju

Tq No offense !!! sori kalo ada yg tersinggung !!!
Demi kemajuan thread

klo lo pake tanda seru semua gw anggap itu offense

gini deh....menurut lo kapan yondaime bakal tampil lagi ?

brp % chancenya ?

masalah yondaime mati itu udah jelas bgt...lo mau bantah pake teori apa ?

klo masalah madara idup itu masih wajar cos belum pernah di kasi sentence ama kishi sebelumnya

coba lo baca page pertama vol1 lu pasti ngerti kan

"one brave shinobi was able to seal up demon, but he lost his life"

lo mo ngomong apa lagi ? orang kishi nya yg nulis gtu

sorry dari awal postingan lo yg offense...

last....1. saran buat lo...klo baca manga naruto mesti detail ga pake ngasal

2. klo mo ngeritik lo kasi sumber jelas, n pastiin kritik lo bener...klo ga, bakal gw counter terus

[fadillah46]

sudah lah.. sudah lah... ~_~

saksinya yondaime mati ya jiraiya... dia yg bantu nyegel kyuubi... kan ga mungkin waktu nyegel kyuubi yondaime ga mati... dan jiraiya ga liat... apalagi ga tau...

para kodok juga ngomong, segel itu, segel kyuubi, yg dibuat yondaime ma jiraiya...

realistisnya, buat apa jiraiya bikin segel tanpa ada maksud, dan pastinya dia juga tau klo yondaime mau pralaya (ngorbanin jiwa ala gatotkaca^^)

jiraiya juga bilang, ga bisa ngelindungin murid, guru dan temannya
kalo muridnya yg ga bisa dilindungin... so pasti cuma yondaime... nagato kan ga mungkin... krn dia uda jd bagian dari Pain... plg tdk matanya... bwat apa ngelindungin murid yg jd musuhnya...
di masa lalu juga nagato dkk ditinggal ma jiraiya.. uda jelas nasib mreka di tangan mreka sendiri... bukan lg tnggngjwb jiraiya...

mari kita perjelas... teori yondaime masih hidup sudah sedikit sekali kemungkinan... kecuali ada perubahan jalan cerita yang super extreme.. tapi itu sama sekali bukan gaya kishi-sensei... dia lebih suka bikin kita nebak2 dgn petunjuk2 drpd bikin cerita yg diruwet2in...

udah, sepakat toh?? ^_^

[fadillah46]

[QUOTE=fadillah46;804242]sudah lah.. sudah lah... ~_~

saksinya yondaime mati ya jiraiya... dia yg bantu nyegel kyuubi... kan ga mungkin waktu nyegel kyuubi yondaime ga mati... dan jiraiya ga liat... apalagi ga tau...

para kodok juga ngomong, segel itu, segel kyuubi, yg dibuat yondaime ma jiraiya...

realistisnya, buat apa jiraiya bikin segel tanpa ada maksud, dan pastinya dia juga tau klo yondaime mau pralaya (ngorbanin jiwa ala gatotkaca^^)

jiraiya juga bilang, ga bisa ngelindungin murid, guru dan temannya
kalo muridnya yg ga bisa dilindungin... so pasti cuma yondaime... nagato kan ga mungkin... krn dia uda jd bagian dari Pain... plg tdk matanya... bwat apa ngelindungin murid yg jd musuhnya...
di masa lalu juga nagato dkk ditinggal ma jiraiya.. uda jelas nasib mreka di tangan mreka sendiri... bukan lg tnggngjwb jiraiya...

mari kita perjelas... teori yondaime masih hidup sudah sedikit sekali kemungkinan... kecuali ada perubahan jalan cerita yang super extreme.. tapi itu sama sekali bukan gaya kishi-sensei... dia lebih suka bikin kita nebak2 dgn petunjuk2 drpd bikin cerita yg diruwet2in...

udah, sepakat toh?? ^_^

untuk teori mata kiri kok ditutupin... aku sendiri msh ngeharepin klo madara pake tubuhnya obito... krn bakalan seru... kyk naruto ketemu sasuke gitu... ^^

tp ada teori yg bilang... waktu madara bunuhin semua clan uchiha, ada perlawanan... dan melukai mata kiri... karena waktu seorang MS User pake MS nya ada tenggat waktu dimana dia defenseless.. itu dipake nyerang mata kiri ma anggota klan yg terakhir... setelah itu itachi ga ktemu lg ma madara... krn madara kabur soalnya mata kiri yg ancur itu ada efek sampingnya... so itachi tetep pada rencana, langsung hajar sasuke ma genjutsu...
disitu jg dikatakan... madara skrg ngedatengin kakashi buat ambil mata kiri... coz dia tahu kakashi dah bisa pake MS yg mirip punya dia... waktu ma zetsu liat tarungnya deidara ma naruto n kakashi... dia sudi pake mata obito karena obito sendiri bukan org sembarangn, buktinya skali pake sharingan langsung bintil 3, ga pake bintil 2...

teori loh... aq juga di email in ma teman... ^^

eh sory kk dobel.... aq ga tau kenapa.... sueeerrr.... T___T

[krusszz]

yang ini gw setuju

skali lagi, teori yondaime masih hidup ga bakal mungkin terjadi, masak kishi mo nelan liur sendiri padahal udah jelas2 dia nulis di prolog vol 1 bahwa minato udah mati

klo sampe yondaime idup lagi, gw bakal berenti baca naruto, suerwerewerewer

for teori mata
knp skrg mata kiri nya yg ditutup ?

apakah madara cuma bisa ngambil 1bola mata ?

[the_omicron]

yang ini gw setuju

skali lagi, teori yondaime masih hidup ga bakal mungkin terjadi, masak kishi mo nelan liur sendiri padahal udah jelas2 dia nulis di prolog vol 1 bahwa minato udah mati

klo sampe yondaime idup lagi, gw bakal berenti baca naruto, suerwerewerewer

for teori mata
knp skrg mata kiri nya yg ditutup ?

apakah madara cuma bisa ngambil 1bola mata ?

iya tuh, kalo emang dia (madara) pengen ambil sharingan doang, knp dia ga ambil mata itachi aja dari dulu??



*jgn dimasukin hati , cuma perkiraan ngaco aja kok*

[BloodyElf]

ah nih thread makin lama makin nga asik....

ada yg kemakan ma cerita fan naruto yg uda gila ampe brani ngubah cerita dah bikin chapter sendiri

pas lg seru" baca teory yg bagus, yg sejalan ma cerita yg skarang eh ada aja yg ungkit minato-sama = akatsuki leader..... capek dah...... uda gitu ada aja postingan yg isinya tanda seru mulu.... kesannya dia maksa, dan itu kalimat offense seperti yg di bilang om kruzz... padahal awal nih thread di bikin masih enak di baca.... tp skarang kok malah ngeribetin....

[fadillah46]

Eh... siapa bilang yondaime mati...??
Dia masih hidup............................................. .................................................. ...di hati semua narutomania sejati....(minjem kata2nya kishimoto-sensei ^_^)

yg bikin nga asik cuma oknum kk.... yg lain2 msh bnyk yg berpikir logis kok... ^^

@kruszz n the_omicron...

madara skrg ngedatengin kakashi buat ambil mata kiri... coz dia tahu kakashi dah bisa pake MS yg mirip punya dia...

bold : itu yg bikin dia pingin ambil pny kakashi... bkn punya itachi.... katanya teori itu loh....


spoiler yg gw posting di page 92 Verification : Confirmed
tinggal nunggu RAW nya aje... paling bentar lagi...

[StevenSeagaL]

boleh saya angkat bicara? maap sebelumnya

Kruszzz 1 saran buad lo !!!!

Jangan terlalu menjudge kalo yondaime uda mati !!!

Namanya dunia khayalan smua bisa terjadi !!!!

Pikiran kita sedang di permainkan oleh kishi sensei !!!! :thanks:

Jadi jangan terlalu yakin atas smua yg u yakinin karena smua yang u yakinin blom tentu bener !!!!

No offense

Smua teori ada chancenya !!! orang kishi juga blom tulis ampe abis kan !!!
Jadi jangan sok tau dengan mengeliminasi kemungkinan yang u ga setuju

Tq No offense !!! sori kalo ada yg tersinggung !!!
Demi kemajuan thread

untuk ini... coba baca lagi page2 sebelumnya .. yg udah gw tulis.. ttng shiki fuujin. ato mo saya tulis lagi ttng efek shiki fuujin ? oke.. ketik ulang :

"the one whose soul is sealed and the one who performed the seal will suffer for all eternity in the belly of death, never gaining release. Their souls will mingle, hating each other and battling the other for all eternity."

baca baik2...yg saiah tebal kan. saya memang ga berani bilang kalo yondaime itu dah mati. tapi saya berani bilang kalo yondaime juga ga hidup.

dan 1 lagi.. ini naruto bung.. bukan dragon ball, yg bisa ngidupin orang seenak perut.

Smua teori ada chancenya !!! orang kishi juga blom tulis ampe abis kan !!!
Jadi jangan sok tau dengan mengeliminasi kemungkinan yang u ga setuju

bagi saya.. smua kemungkinan yg ga masuk akal & tanpa bukti akan saya eliminasi.. begitu juga kemungkinan yg masuk akal.. tapi ada bukti yg menjelaskan bahwa kemungkinan itu salah. saya lebih menghargai kemungkinan yang gak masuk akal tapi disertai bukti (meski ini cuma teori)
teori tanpa bukti : nonsense.

bagi yg punya bukti kalo yondaime masih hidup.. silahkan keluarkan.
saiah bersedia berdebat ^^ dengan bukti potongan chapter asli kishi-sensei tentunya.

teori yondaime = akatsuki leader kan udah jelas2 salah

knp masih ber asumsi ?

yap.. & saya 1 suara ama kk krusszz.

Tq No offense !!! sori kalo ada yg tersinggung !!!

anda bilang no offense tapi tulisannya offense smua -_-"
jangankan kk krusszz.. saiah yg ngebacanya juga jadi rada2...
maap ^^
--------------------------------------------- sudah cukup ><

Nice info....
Eh nanya dong....
Berarti Kakashi gk bakal buta dong ???
Kan dia ngambil mata sharingannya dari Obito.....
Tapi kok dia kesakitan waktu gunain MSnya ??
Wa jadi bingung....
~CMIIW~

ada yg menarik nih ^^ chapter 257 page 9



kakashi udah tau efek dari mangekyou sharingan dari awal.

hiks.. sayah benci spoilers >< tapi dah terlanjut baca.

nah....masuk akal bgt ni....

jadi ini maksud "sharingan final secret"

MS yg ga bakal bisa ngebutain

so, both madara n kakashi would never lost their sight again

nah skrg pertanyaannya....knp topeng madara hanya kebuka mata kanan doang ?

sepertinya sayah tau.. kenapa cuma mata kanan doang ^^ berdasarkan chapter 386. tapi mending nunggu rawnya kluar dulu ya. biar ada gambarnya.

[krusszz]

huhuhu....itu emang cuma oknum2 tertentu yg ngeluarin teori tanpa latar belakang n sumber yg jelas

so for all, ga usah kebawa suasana, toh disini banyak yg ngoreksi kesalahan kan

mari qta ramein thread ini (thread dgn jumlah view terbanyak di anime & manga)

heheh

back to topic

kakashi udah tau dampak pemakaian MS berarti dia jg udah mulai deteriorated matanya

gw nunggu translate nya aja deh

[JopunkOnly]

kakashi udah tau efek dari mangekyou sharingan dari awal.

hiks.. sayah benci spoilers >< tapi dah terlanjut baca.

Pertanyaan wa blom di jwb ..... >_<
Apakah kakashi bisa ikut buta waktu menggunakan MS-nya ??
Jika tidak....kenapa dia kesakitan waktu gunain MS pas lwn deidara.....

[StevenSeagaL]

Pertanyaan wa blom di jwb ..... >_<
Apakah kakashi bisa ikut buta waktu menggunakan MS-nya ??
Jika tidak....kenapa dia kesakitan waktu gunain MS pas lwn deidara.....

pertanyaan ini "mungkin" bisa di jawab kl u dah baca yg 386.^^ ada 2 kemungkinan.. & kalo dibahas skarang kyknya blom tepat waktunya. mnding nunggu yg laen pada dah baca dulu ^^

yg mo raw nya ini dah ada.: naruto 386 raw.
kalo mo nunggu yg translate.. paling tar malem/besok

[fadillah46]

haduh.... gila...

spoiler yg gw dposting di atas uda confirmed di situsnya... eh... skrg jd pending statusnya....
walah.... situs kagak jelas.... >,<

sory loh... namanya juga spoiler... don't kill me if there's any mistakes...>,<
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back to topic...
@ stevenseagal
trus kalo kakashi dah tau efek dari MS.... dia bisa ngebangkitin sendiri tuh MS...
tapi kenapa ga dipake waktu dia lawan itachi di konoha??

kan ga ada hubungannya ma kesakitan kakashi...

apa itachi ini "diremehin" ma kakashi??

[StevenSeagaL]

haduh.... gila...

spoiler yg gw dposting di atas uda confirmed di situsnya... eh... skrg jd pending statusnya....
walah.... situs kagak jelas.... >,<

sory loh... namanya juga spoiler... don't kill me if there's any mistakes...>,<
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back to topic...
@ stevenseagal
trus kalo kakashi dah tau efek dari MS.... dia bisa ngebangkitin sendiri tuh MS...
tapi kenapa ga dipake waktu dia lawan itachi di konoha??

kan ga ada hubungannya ma kesakitan kakashi...

apa itachi ini "diremehin" ma kakashi??

err... gini. waktu di konoha, kakashi kyknya lom tau ttng mangekyou. pas kena tsukuyomi di konoha.. baru dia menyadari ada tingkatan lebih tinggi dari sharingan.. & "mungkin" kakashi nyari tau/belajar cara menggunakan mangekyou (sendiri tentunya) dan pas berhasil.. dia menyadari efek dari mangekyou. makanya pas ketemu itachi berikutnya ( sblom lawan deidara ) dia ngomong ke itachi " itachi, mata mu.. sejauh mana mata mu memburuk "

& bbrp rahasia ttng sharingan dah kluar di chapter 386.
sperti ini...


ni lengkapnya : ( kalo males nunggu scanlation ni ada raw nya)
naruto 386raw

ini translatenya :

"There's something else besides having the eyes to tame the Nine-Tails?"

Itachi: "Yes. And that remaining secret is the most important one."

Sasuke: "Important secret? What is it?"

Sasuke: "Answer me! What is it?"

Itachi: "I'll tell you a little story. One dealing with the history of the Uchiha."

"A certain Uchiha Madara once had a brother of his own...a younger brother. When they were young, they competed against each other, both growing in power."

"As a result they awakened to the Sharingan. They became known as special brothers even within the clan."

"By seeking growth via competition against one another, the brothers finally attained the Mangekyou Sharingan."
"That was from the beginning of the Uchiha clan. So with their powerful eyes, the brothers took control of the clan."
"The older brother, Madara, became leader. However, strange abnormalities began to grow upon his otherwise healthy normal body."
"I said it before...these eyes are special. The more you use them, the closer the complete darkness approaches which seals it away."
"This is the end of the road for the Mangekyou Sharingan. In exchange for that great power...you will shut your 'eyes'...parting with the light."
"Madara exhausted all means for the sake of returning his light, but nothing was effective."
"He despaired. And so, possessed by the Mangekyou, Madara sought the light..."
Madara: "Forgive me."
Younger brother: "Gyaaaaa!!"
Itachi: "He plucked his brother's eyes."
"Madara gained a new light. And never again was his light ever shut away."
"The eternal Mangekyou Sharingan! Being the new host for his brother's eyes is what is said to give him a new light."
"And so, whether it was just that or not, it caused a change. A unique doujutsu was born from those eyes."
"This is all provided that the exchange of eyes would not be done outside the clan. And by this method, no one would know how to acquire this new power."
"After that, a reality of countless victims piled up over the course of this history... That is the remaining secret of these eyes."
"Having those powers, Madara brought all the shinobi clans, one by one, to heel.* And so he was called the strongest of all shinobi."
"Joining hands with the Mori no Senju clan (or can be read as the "Senju clan of the forest"), a new establishment was founded. It was that establishment that became Konohagakure."
"Afterwards, Madara met with the leader of the Senju clan who would later become the Shodai Hokage, and with whom which he had a confrontation over matters of village policy. The conflict over the right of leadership."
"Though defeated, Madara continues on even now along with the power that lies in his eyes."
"The shadow of his newly organized "Akatsuki" does its part to hide his visage."
"It goes without question that the attack by Kyuubi upon Konoha that 16 years ago was caused by none other than Madara. It was prevented regrettably by the Yondaime."


Sasuke: !

Itachi: "Madara as he is right now is a failure. He isn't the one who will attain the heights of the Uchiha. The one who is getting closer of attaining that true height, of surpassing that man, Madara...is me. And it's now! I finally will be able to get the power of surpassing Madara!"

Itachi: "Sasukee! You are my new light!"
Sasuke: !
Itachi: "You are my spare! The Uchiha clan originally had friends kill one another for the Mangekyou Sharingan-"
"To attain the eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, they had brothers kill each other. And by doing so they stained their hands with blood, continuing to display their power."


"And so, you too are enveloped by this blood-stained destiny, from the very time you were born within the clan!"
"Now come, brother! Once I kill you, I will liberate the clan from its destiny and attain true change!"
"I will drop my limits and release myself from my "capacity"*!"
~Sasuke flashback

Itachi: "We are unique brothers, you and I. I act as the wall you must overcome, so that you and I can continue existing together."
Itachi: "You continued hoping to surpass me. That's why I let you live...for my sake."

Itachi: "We are each other's spares! That is what binds us as brothers of the Uchiha!"
Itachi: "Seems you were able to see enough of my true self."

Sasuke: "So it was all for this..."

~Sasuke flashback

Sasuke: "Name: Uchiha Sasuke. Lots of things I don't like, and I don't really like anything."

"And I have no intention leaving the word as "dreams". I have ambitions. The resurrection of my clan, and...-"
"...to kill a certain man."

Sasuke: "All or nothing...this is it."
　
おわり
End

*Means that it was under Madara's control
**Itachi used the word "onore" 己 which can refer to either Itachi or Sasuke. I believe it's referring to Itachi though.

credit :
raw : manyou
translation : NF


note : scanlation nya paling besok juga kluar kl mo nunggu ^^