All About Naruto

[fadillah46]

oke deh... ditunggu loh... ^^
kyk nya seru...

o iya... ini nie... dr situs yg aq kasih link di atas...

kok terasa spoiler buanget...

It has been revealed that Madara did in fact control the demon fox and used it during the attack on Konoha. Because the demon fox obviously hates all living things, it remembers and hates Madara for controlling him, and he compares Sasuke's eyes to be as evil as Madara's.

The First Hokage and Madara had arguments over laws and decisions of Konohakagure. Madara fled and created Akatsuki to look over problems. He hid behind the shadows and placed Pein as the figure-head leader, with Madara giving Pein orders from the background. Outside of Pein, the only members who are shown knowing Madara's position as the true leader are Konan, Zetsu, and Itachi.

Madara's failure to unleash the demon fox to destroy Konoha made him give up, and so he taught Itachi about the Mangekyo Sharingan and led him to destroy his entire clan, and taught him how to unlock its true power. Itachi refers to Madara today as "a pathetic shell of his former self, no longer worthy of becoming the greatest Uchiha."[3]

so, paragraph 1 n 3 bikin janggal deh... ada pendapat??

[abbe]

hm.. sori sensei2 mau nanya soal yng laen.
klo mangekyo sharingan si kakashi itu berhasil dipelajari ny pre-shippuuden atau pas shippuuden y? kan pertama kali keluarin jurus ny pas dia lawan deidara, tp pertama kali ketemu/lawan mangekyo sharingan di episode pre-shippuuden pas lawan itahci.

[Hocrux]

tapi klo menurut wa kakashi bisa mongkekyou karena belajar sendiri deh meskipun dia Copy Ninja tapi klo sampe bisa Copy Mongkekyou berarti hebat amat tuh

[anyarrow]

Yep immortal itu bisa rusak...liat aja hidan...dia cuman kepalanya doank juga masih bisa cuap2..tapi badannya rusak kan???(gak nyambung kepala ma badan) Danzou = tobi? ugh rada minim deh..danzou kan buntung kaki ma tangannya sebelah...kecuali klo dia dipasang mail kek di full metal alchemist wkwkwkwk...

[fadillah46]

yang diketahui bloodline a.k.a kekkai genkai tuh ga bisa di copy... >,<

so, sperti kata kk Hocrux, kakashi belajar sendiri...

kakashi pun sudah tahu tentang efek dr MS... kyk post nya stevenseagal di page 94/ 95 itu...

trus cara mbangkitinnya uda di bahas di page2 terdahulu... yg aq lom ikut sini..
jd ga bisa jwb... >,< senior lain maybe...??

nah kalo immortal bisa rusak... ada kemungkinan jg madara ini pke tubuh org lain... ^^

teori lg...^^

eh, lom ada yg nanggepin pertanyaan gw...?? T_T

[krusszz]

seperti yg kita tahu, MS bangkit karena seorang itachi membunuh temen terdekat

seperti yg kita tahu jg, obito mengorbankan dirinya(tertimpa batu) setelah men-transplant matanya ke kakashi, jadi anggapan nya obito itu mati karena kakashi n rin

for danzo = tobi

While i was researching various ninjas i came upon some very interesting info, on a legendary Ninja named Danzo.
Most of us know that kishimoto uses alot of japanese mythology and folktales in his creating of characters in Naruto. such as the creation of Jiraya, tsunade and Orachimaru, they came from the japanese folktale Jiraiya Goketsu Monogatari
Little basic info on the Naruto Danzo:
If you want to know about Danzo check out : Naruto universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now info on the Danzo of jappanese folktale:
Kato Danzo

Very little are known about the legendary ninja. It is said that Danzo was a master of illusion. For example, a historical document says that he swallowed a bull in front of more than 20 people. But another ninja was seeing it and said "never cheated, he is only riding on the bull's back," then people noticed that it was an illusion.
Today, researchers think his illusion as a type of group-hypnosis. In fact, ninja were studying psychology very well, so it was not strange that very skilled hypnotist were among them.
Historical documents say that Danzo wanted to serve to Uesugi Kenshin . But his art of illusion was so dreadful that Kenshin decided not to hire but to kill him.
Kenshin ordered him to intrude a house, and placed many guardsmen in and around the house. Danzo , however, noticed the deception, and throw his Shinobi Shouzoku (the black costume of ninja) tied with a rope over the hedge into the garden instead of himself. The guardsmen fired arrows to the dummy, then he pull back the rope. They believed that Danzo turned in the air to jump back to the hedge.
After that, he was called Tobi Kato , meaning "flying Kato ."
The story tells that a competent ninja cannot be always loved his master. He was, after all, too competent

My deduction of this leads me to believe that kishimoto is using the mythical Danzo as the basis for Danzo in Naruto.
Danzo is possibly highly skilled in genjustu
But my main point of all this is that Tobi is in fact Danzo, i believe the evidence speaks for itself, Danzo his true name, then being named Tobi is factual evidence kishimoto, is planning to make Tobi, Danzo.
Also in the myth it refers to the black costume ninja, the first time we see Tobi he is dressed up in all black (ch280 the last page)and it is not the akatsuki cloak.
Also the fact that Tobi was introduced ch 280, and Danzo ch 281 might hold some significance that they have a correlation that Kishimoto has come up with. SInce they are introduced basically at the same time.
Take a look at these two pics:


notice the eye that tobi has is different then Danzos, shear coincidence that the bandage part is tobis eye; could their be something under the bandages?
I also have a follow up to this thread expressing who i think obito is Zetsu - Naruto Forums
*And post whether you like it or not, because i always like to hear what people think.*

gw copy dari forum luar

[fadillah46]

heh... masak kakashi kyk gitu...>,< kyk avatarnya anyarrow...

kurang ganteng kali...

wah kueren...

teori yg rather strange... ga pernah denger sama skali...

kok ga ada gambarnya sih kk??

[planetputbol]

Mohon ditanggapi:

Sejauh ini yang dah direveal ma kishimoto-sensei ada 3 macam ms :

1. MS-nya madara lan itachi : bisa membuat dimensi sendiri dimana kualitas dan kuantitasnya bisa diatur oleh penggunanya
requrement: bunuh orang yang terdekat ma lu
side efect: membutakan penggunanya secara perlahan, dan

2. MS-nya kakashi : mengirim sebuah benda ke tempat lain dengan kecepatan tinggi melalui sebuah titik. (bukan ke dimensi lain, buktinya tangannya deidara ketemu)
requirement: ?????
side efect: pengguna tidak dapat menggerakan tubuhnya selama beberapa waktu bisa berhari2

3. MS-nya adiknya madara
????
???

Tulung sing ditandatanayai diisi

[planetputbol]

Mohon ditanggapi:

Sejauh ini yang dah direveal ma kishimoto-sensei ada 3 macam ms :

1. MS-nya madara lan itachi : bisa membuat dimensi sendiri dimana kualitas dan kuantitasnya bisa diatur oleh penggunanya
requrement: bunuh orang yang terdekat ma lu
side efect: membutakan penggunanya secara perlahan

2. MS-nya kakashi : mengirim sebuah benda ke tempat lain dengan kecepatan tinggi melalui sebuah titik. (bukan ke dimensi lain, buktinya tangannya deidara ketemu)
requirement: ?????
side efect: pengguna tidak dapat menggerakan tubuhnya selama beberapa waktu bisa berhari2

3. MS-nya adiknya madara
????
???

Tulung sing ditandatanayai diisi

weh dobel post eror banget....

@bloodyelf
buat yang dah quote yang ke 2000 di kasih hadiah ga? Kayak piring pa payung cantik gitu?

[Uchiha-Sassuke]

plz deh..
yg ditandatanyai blm ada yg disinggung di manga..
cape de.. >_<
emanknya wa dewa naruto bisa tau semuanya?? -_-

[fadillah46]

buat requirement nya kakashi... tolong di baca posting kk kruszz di atas...

tapi skali lg itu cm teori... if tobi = obito, ya teori nya jd salah...

tapi jika tobi = obito requirement yg dibutuhkan hrs nya sama antara kakashi n madara n adiknya...
madara n adiknya g pernah saling bunuh bwat dptin MS... just competent each other....madara baru bunuh adiknya stlh blind n dpt new sharingan, eternal MS...
itu jg yg mau dilakukan itachi ke brothernya...

[Uchiha-Sassuke]

tapi wkt si madara nyabut mata adiknya,
adiknya mati apa ga ya?
kan di manga cuma dijelasin kalo matanya diambil
tp ga dikasi tau mati apa nggak adik madara itu

eh kk, ada yg punya gambar muka kishimoto ga?
kalo ada tampilin di sini dunk
wa pengen liad muke si kishimoto kaye ape.. ^^

[krusszz]

heh... masak kakashi kyk gitu...>,< kyk avatarnya anyarrow...

kurang ganteng kali...

wah kueren...

teori yg rather strange... ga pernah denger sama skali...

kok ga ada gambarnya sih kk??

sebenarnya ada banyak sih...cuma gw lupa link2nya....udah lama baca sih

sharingan ga punya jenis2....yg ada tingkatan

sharingan(sasuke), MS(itachi, kakashi, madara brother), eternal MS(madara)

sharingan
req : merasakan mara bahaya yg amat sangat
side effect : capek

MS
req : bunuh temen terdekat
side effect : lama kelamaan akan buta, akan menderita capek yg luar biasa karna ga pure blood(kakashi)

eternal MS
req : bunuh sodara kandung
side effect : ky nya ga ada

[JopunkOnly]

yang diketahui bloodline a.k.a kekkai genkai tuh ga bisa di copy... >,<

so, sperti kata kk Hocrux, kakashi belajar sendiri...

kakashi pun sudah tahu tentang efek dr MS... kyk post nya stevenseagal di page 94/ 95 itu...

trus cara mbangkitinnya uda di bahas di page2 terdahulu... yg aq lom ikut sini..
jd ga bisa jwb... >,< senior lain maybe...??

nah kalo immortal bisa rusak... ada kemungkinan jg madara ini pke tubuh org lain... ^^

teori lg...^^

eh, lom ada yg nanggepin pertanyaan gw...?? T_T

Setelah wa baca2....
Sepertinya kecil kemungkinan Madara menggunakan tubuh org laen.....
Karena Madara punya kemampuan khusus untuk gk terkena dmg sama sekali pada tubuhnya.......
Contohnya saat Deidara vs Sasuke....
disitu Madara(Tobi) ketusuk pedang Sasuke, tapi beberapa saat kemudia dia bisa berdiri lagi....
contoh lainnya saat diserang Naruto pake Rasengan dari blakang....
rasengannya justru cuma nembus badannya si Madara(Tobi)....

[fadillah46]

weh... setelah baca situs narutopedia...

kekuatan MS, ato mungkin eternal MS, ada 1 lg...

pindah tempat dgn short lifespan... dari tmpt deidara mati, ke rumahnya pein n konan, trus ke valley of the end...
terakhir ngelacak dgn cepat tmptnya team kakashi...

side effect nya eternal MS ada : Invincible Immortal !! katanya itachi gitu...

edit : iya, bner kata jopunkonly... yg aku perhatiin cm immortal, bkn invincible immortal... lain lg ceritanya klo uda gini... >,<