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    kalo gw sih
    tetep vote
    tobi = madara

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkt-harris View Post
    tobi pasti uchica ,kalo bukan uchica ga mungkin isa pake sharingan terus menerus tanpa lelah ,kakashi aja pake sebentar2 mata nya pas batle sisana ditutup, kekna yg pasti obito si tobi.
    uchiha ? 50:50 , Tobi implant sel hashirama... alias chakra ga usah repot" abis, toh regen gede, proof Tobi pake sel hashirama ? Jelas dia tanam selnya di markas persembunyiannya, gak mungkin kalo dia gak pakai itu, lah dia juga pake buat clone White Zetsu...

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    kalo gw sih
    tetep vote
    tobi = madara
    give me a proof about that, if tobi = madara

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    madara mah emank bukan, masa madara ada 2.. ada2 aja ini

    oh iya.. mata sharingan kakashi juga permanent de.. soalnya ditutup atau dibuka sharingannya tetep ON

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    spoilernya belom keluar ni?
    biasanya pagi2 dah nongol
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    tunggu ntar siang da coba pin

    tapi dari kemarin juga spoilernya ga keluar2.. taunya udah rilis

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    malah ada prediksi

    tobi =obito tp tobi ga ngaku dia obito
    dia bilangnya obito dah lama mati
    tinggal sisi gelapnya doang

    gitu
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    ga mungkin donk klo gitu

    tandanya obito masih hidup, trus pergi ke pulau tempat latihan naruto ama bee

    trus kalah ama sisi gelapnya gitu? haha

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    di prediksi juga tobi ga pake jurus2 sharingan lagi
    soalnya kakashi dah tau jutsunya
    jadi justu2 rineggannya yg sering di pake wkkw
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    eh pas liat spoiler trus lom ada apa2 liat komen

    ada yang menarik nih pin

    Plothole Number 1: Tobi’s Power Level (chapters 500-504).
    There is no way Obito could turn into an alpha dog shinobi who mastered S/T phasing and teleportation within a 1-2 year time frame. At 15 years old? No way... There is also no way Obito would know how to extract the Kyuubi, hypnotize it, control it like a puppet, and then summon it wherever the hell he wants to. And all of this is supposed to have happened 1-2 years after Obito supposedly died? That’s just not feasible.

    Plothole Number 2: Personality U-turn (chapter 241 page 19).
    "Of course those in the ninja world who break the rules and regulations are called trash... but those who don’t care about their companions are even worse than trash." Will of Fire talk from Obito. It makes no sense for.
    him to suddenly manifest this unwavering vendetta against Konoha unless Tobi is just using Obito’s body as a vessel, in which case, Tobi isn’t really Obito anyway because his soul and spirit have nothing to do with it.

    Plothole Number 3: Kushina Quote (chapter 501 page 7).
    "Do you have ANY idea how long I’ve waited for this moment?" It’s a complete contradiction for Obito to say something like that when, hypothetically, he wouldn’t have been alive long enough to make that type of comment because Obito would have been 15 years old if he fought Minato. Tobi has probably had to wait DECADES for the opportunity to extract the Kyuubi from its host.

    Plothole Number 4: Kyuubi recognised Tobi (chapter 501 page 8).
    The Kyuubi actually recognises Tobi and possibly knows who he is. If THAT doesn’t convince you, nothing will. The Kyuubi made a direct transfer from being sealed into Mito to being sealed into Kushina, so there is a fundamental contradiction for the Kyuubi to recognise anyone in the outside world when it was sealed for all that time. If the Kyuubi actually recognised Tobi, it means Tobi has to be someone who was alive during Hashirama/Madara’s generation.

    Plothole Number 5: Tobi is too tall (chapter 503 page 9).
    Tobi was shown to be adult sized when he fought Minato, chapter 503 page 5. But on page 9, Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai are all shown to be much shorter as they are going through adolescence. Obito would have been around that size and is therefore too short to be Tobi.

    Plothole Number 6: Minato would’ve figured it out (chapter 500-504).
    If Tobi was really Obito, then Minato would have figured it out when they were fighting each other. Obito was Minato’s own student and would have recognised his chakra, but he didn’t.

    Plothole Number 7: This is HIS doing (chapter 560 page 2).
    "This is HIS doing." That means Madara knows exactly who Tobi is, but there is no way Madara could have worked with Obito because Madara had died already. We know this because by the time Nagato gets Madara's Rinnegan from Tobi, Madara is officially dead - "I awakened these eyes shortly before my death." (chapter 560 page 15). This is important because Nagato is older than Minato, and Minato is older than Obito.

    Plothole Number 8: Hashirama Comparison (chapter 462 page 14).
    Tobi says to Naruto "I can see the first Hokage in you." To make that type of comparison Tobi must have known what Hashirama was like as a person. Problem is, Hashirama was dead before Obito was born.

    Plothole Number 9: During Our Battle (chapter 512 page 9).
    "This is something I grew from living tissue I stole from him during our battle." Kabuto already revealed the Madara coffin so there was no reason for Tobi to keep lying. So if Tobi actually had a fight with Hashirama there is no way he could be Obito.

    Plothole Number 10: Too Much Knowledge.
    It is impossible for Obito to know so much about the bloody history between the Senju clan and the Uchiha clan before Konoha was even established as a shinobi village. Tobi has to be someone from that generation. It is also impossible for Obito to know so much about Rikudou Sennin, his sons, the Bijuu and the Juubi.

    THE BIGGEST PLOTHOLE OF THEM ALL.

    Plothole Number 11: Nagato is much older than Obito.

    Why is this important? Because Tobi GAVE Nagato the Rinnegan. In other words, it is impossible for Obito to have given kid Nagato the Rinnegan because Obito is much younger than Nagato.

    rest in peace obito kun...

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    wekwoek jadi ragu ni kalo tobi obito
    ga ada prediski lain lagi
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    entahlah

    yang pasti hari ini harus kebongkar identitasnya

    seperti yang dijanjiin ama kishimoto

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    pembaca yang baik itu memperhatikan plotnya, bukan penampilan / ability yg mirip"
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    Quote Originally Posted by clouds21 View Post
    pembaca yang baik itu memperhatikan plotnya, bukan penampilan / ability yg mirip"
    setuju sama

    dulu waktu tobi keluar aku ngira juga tobi obito.. liat dari kemiripan.. matanya pasangan ama kakashi haha

    tapi makin kesini makin ilang..

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    Kakashi thinks perhaps Tobi is Obito.
    Guy and Kakashi comes up with a plan, and uses Kamui to fly Naruto's Kage-bunshin to Tobi, and shatters his mask.

    Kakashi's chakra is almost at its limit
    They hit the mask with Rasengan, and.... end of chap.

    Kakashi ponders if Tobi can't be Obito.

    Kakashi ponders if Tobi can't be Obito. On a literal level, "Kakashi thinks Tobi can't be Obito" suffices, but on a more analytical level, the opposite is implied. It ends up being too ambiguous.

    Kakashi starts to think that Tobi can't be Obito.

    With a clever plan from from Gai and Kakashi, Kakashi sends Naruto's clone to the other dimension and Tobi's mask is pulverized.
    spolier nya ni
    dappet dari http://naruto-mangaspoiler.blogspot.com/
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    parah.. chapter depan bau2 dialihin nih ceritanya

    baru pecah topengnya tobi udah "to be continue.."

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