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    Quote Originally Posted by shekhanyas View Post
    di offi rogue PvE oriented haste rating termasuk stat utama

    peratiin aja gear2 swp macem shoulder dll pasti ada haste ratingnya

    kl pvp AP tetep the best
    AP d best ..

    but lawan agi yang by 1 berasa banget susah nya ..
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    mo nanya, scara infamy speed (no haste rating) 2.60 (ato 2.70 y,, klo g sala 2.60), tp wkt itu gw lyat ad rogue yg make infamy MH OH, g pake slice n dice itu speedny hmpir sama kek gw make kalecgoz + dragonscale.. itu napa y? dr gearny kah?

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    animasi doang keknya

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    infamy speed weapon 2.6
    pake buff slice n dice jadi ngurang 30% (klo ga sala)
    speed weapon jadi 1.82
    kemungkinan klo pake dragonspine throopy, heroism/bloodlust, sama mongose kluar ya kira2 bisa sampe 1.0-1.4 speed weaponnya
    jadi mungkin jg sih speed infamy bs kyk fang kalecgos
    tapi tetep klo pakenya WG yaaaa tau sndiri tu hastenya 450 klo kluar -_-'

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    weQz.. ini kn ttg infamy.. yg psti dy g pake SnD, tp grakanny kliatanny lbih cpet, seinget gw mah, encanny dy 1 exe, 1 lg kosong / ad mongose g taw deh.. seinget gw mah kosong..
    ko isa yy.. pgen" >.< bs nabok cpet"..

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    wah klo tanpa buff sih animasi doank kyknya....
    ato dia pake skill2 jadi mh nya gebuk2 kliatan cepet gtu?

    klo ga ya.... pake sh kali orangnya=_=

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    g taw deh :P, tp keren kliatanny, speedny kliatanny kek make WG, dasar animasi!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylittlecrime View Post
    weQz.. ini kn ttg infamy.. yg psti dy g pake SnD, tp grakanny kliatanny lbih cpet, seinget gw mah, encanny dy 1 exe, 1 lg kosong / ad mongose g taw deh.. seinget gw mah kosong..
    ko isa yy.. pgen" >.< bs nabok cpet"..
    1 mongose 1 intelek kale ..

    kek pnya gw ...

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    nanya donk...

    bener g seh ini

    w kan undead rogue

    trus ada belf rogue kan, level nya beda 20an lah keq nya

    tp koq belf itu nyerang nya lebih cpet pdhal pke dual sword

    apa belf nyerang nya lbih cpet ato undead yg lemod??

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    ^^^
    Click pls to help me hatch....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecile_Scarlet View Post
    Talent Cacad...

    RuthLessness...
    ato macem itu Lha namanya Gk apal Gw....
    Itu talent kgk jalan, g tes tes sampe bgok di berbagai kondisi tetep aja gak jalan.

    Quote Originally Posted by mylittlecrime View Post

    uy rogue mnding haste rating / full AP?
    Buat raid mending haste, kalo PvP AP n crit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdaviz View Post
    Haste Rating ato Attack Power ?! ... bukan pilihan yang menarik.
    Smua tergantung cara fokusin Char rogue kita untuk 'Versus apa', itu menurut ane.
    untuk Stun Lock ane lbih cenderung ke Critical Strike (kalo emang Hit Rating jalan mngkin ane ngambil Hit Rating).
    untuk Damage Dealer ane lbih cenderung ke Attack Power.
    Haste rating bisa di siasatin dari skill Rogue sendiri yang Slice n Dice dan enchant Mongoose.
    CUman mo ingetin aja, mongoose cuman +2% aspd, jadi gak terlalu epek bgt, bner2 slightly inc atk speed. Jadi mongoose itu berasa di +120aginya itu, jadi +aspd dari mongoose gak usah terlalu diharapkan bkin atk jadi cepet bgt yah, hanya mayan lagh ada daripada kgk ehehe^^

    Hit rating jalan kok, tapi buat PvE yah, kalo PvP segh gak ada guna. Makin tggi hit rating makin jarang miss hit boss or mob yang levelnya diatas 70. Untuk hajar mob or boss dengan lv 73, minimal hit rating itu 465 supaya gak ada miss sama sekali. G blm pernah coba sampe mentok 465 hit ratingnya, tapi dari riset g, hit rating pas 200 n pas 100 itu bedanya kerasa bgt, g tesnya pas ke aneth secara boss itu gampang di farm buat rep lol^^, g tes hit rating 200 3x aneth n hit rating 100 3x juga. Hasilnya dgn hit rating 200 g selalu di urutan 1 or 2, tapi dgn hit rating 100 g bisa turun sampe ke 4. Kalo buat raid buang semua ke hit, sampe 350an lagh kalo bisa, crit n dmg gede tapi kalo sering miss juga percuma.

    Hit rating ini jalan ke DPS aja, gak ke penggunaan skill kek SS n hemo Dll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganteng_mode_ON View Post
    infamy speed weapon 2.6
    pake buff slice n dice jadi ngurang 30% (klo ga sala)
    speed weapon jadi 1.82
    kemungkinan klo pake dragonspine throopy, heroism/bloodlust, sama mongose kluar ya kira2 bisa sampe 1.0-1.4 speed weaponnya
    jadi mungkin jg sih speed infamy bs kyk fang kalecgos
    tapi tetep klo pakenya WG yaaaa tau sndiri tu hastenya 450 klo kluar -_-'
    Masa bisa sampe 1.40 infamy?? Dari riset g, make infamy di MH enchant mongoose, dengan buff mongoose+DST+SnD itu mentok di 1.80, itu blm tambah bloodlust shaman karena pas di bloodlust gak pernah itu mongoose, DST n SnD pas keluar barengan. Apa rogue g error ye??

    Quote Originally Posted by mylittlecrime View Post
    weQz.. ini kn ttg infamy.. yg psti dy g pake SnD, tp grakanny kliatanny lbih cpet, seinget gw mah, encanny dy 1 exe, 1 lg kosong / ad mongose g taw deh.. seinget gw mah kosong..
    ko isa yy.. pgen" >.< bs nabok cpet"..
    Sugesti aja kk, perasaan aja dia lebih cepet ehehe^^

    Oiy satu lagi yang g bingung degh, rogue combat sword napa demen pake dual infamy ye?? Secara itu infamy kan speednya 2.60 yang bkin talent combat potency jadi sampah, harusnya kalo mo mentokkin dps raid yah pake OH yang 1.80 maks biar proc talent combat potencynya keluar trs.

    Quote Originally Posted by coklat_uchiha View Post
    1 mongose 1 intelek kale ..

    kek pnya gw ...
    ^^^^
    Contoh rogue yang sekolah tinggi dan pinter wekekekek^^

    Quote Originally Posted by trackz View Post
    nanya donk...

    bener g seh ini

    w kan undead rogue

    trus ada belf rogue kan, level nya beda 20an lah keq nya

    tp koq belf itu nyerang nya lebih cpet pdhal pke dual sword

    apa belf nyerang nya lbih cpet ato undead yg lemod??
    Pedangnya speednya brp kk?? Kalo lo pake pedang speed 2.00 dia pake pedang speed 1.50 yah udah pasti cepetan dia kk^^

    Negh ngmg2 kok melenceng dari judul ye, pindah ke strategy buat rogue aja kalo mo diskusi, jgn sini....
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    Plontoz, level 70 undead rogue

    sap+cheap+kidney+blind=GG

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    ia" d pkir" kt jd ngmongin ttg strategi..

    suggest dr gw, ttg enchantment msuk k thread gw aj, bhas d situ "better enchantment, better chance to win.."
    klik aj d luar mles gw linkny :P
    klo strategi, thread ttg rumus" itu bkn?

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    kl alli enaknya pake gnome tuh

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    klo horde enak smua deh kayaknya ;p
    orc : att pow gede
    undead : imune fear charm sleep
    BE : silence+restore energy
    troll : aspd+++
    tauren : bisa stun+hp gentong!!!.... eh ga ada ya tauren rogue... klo dah ada gw d kabarin yah.....

    Klo bwat ally
    human : sword expertise, detect stealth, sama repu kmana aja cpt
    NE : quickness 1% dodge, bisa ngilang @_@ ............... mayan bwat kasi kesempatan makan -_-
    Dwarf : imune poison n bleed
    Gnome : remove impairing effect + intelek yang gede jadi lebi pinter de maen roguenya ;p

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    ^
    ^
    kasiny yg mndukung bwt jd rogue lha --a klo mo ngasi racial ny.. misal,

    Human : Sword Specialization, Detect Stealth (active)
    NE : Quickness (1%dodge), Shadow meld (can trick ur stupid enemy..)
    Gnome : Escape Artist (instantly remove all movement Impairing effect)
    Dwarf : (g trlalu bgus jd rogue kata gw mah..) Stone Form (Increase Armor Value by 10%, Immune to DoT)(active)
    xXx
    Undead : Remove to "lost control" effect (active)
    BE : Silence (Mana Tap), Gain energy (Arcane Torrent)
    Troll : Berserk (active)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylittlecrime View Post
    ^
    ^
    kasiny yg mndukung bwt jd rogue lha --a klo mo ngasi racial ny.. misal,

    Human : Sword Specialization, Detect Stealth (active)
    NE : Quickness (1%dodge), Shadow meld (can trick ur stupid enemy..)
    Gnome : Escape Artist (instantly remove all movement Impairing effect)
    Dwarf : (g trlalu bgus jd rogue kata gw mah..) Stone Form (Increase Armor Value by 10%, Immune to DoT)(active)
    xXx
    Undead : Remove to "lost control" effect (active)
    BE : Silence (Mana Tap), Gain energy (Arcane Torrent)
    Troll : Berserk (active)
    Wede sapa bilang dwarf gak bagus, cuman jelek bentuknya aja kale, itu skillnya anti DoT itu bisa bkin dia restealth lage, DoT itu salah satu counter vs rogue.

    Undead racialnya bukan imunne to lost control, tapi cuman fear, sleep, charm. Kalo di poly, sleep, sap, scatter yah tetep aja gak bisa hehe.
    Plontoz, level 70 undead rogue

    sap+cheap+kidney+blind=GG

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