TUTUP ARENA !!

[rize_death]

^^^^ ya betul find weakness reduce 70% armor bug kluar terus , plusssssss durasi stun rogue yang ngaco, setelah cheap shot 4 sec stun seharusnya kalo di combo kidney hanya 2-3 sec aja, soalnya durasi kidney ikut dikurangi cheap shot, di ampm full cheap shot 4 dtk, kidney tetep bersih 6 dtk + find weakness dah combo mematikan, jadi jangan heran sekali combo gtu darah tinggal setengah atau seprempat, you see now? dan masih plus lagi kidney seharusnya bs 6 dtk stun setelah cd 30 dtk, di ampm cuma cd 20 dtk, see??

jadi croooooooootttttttttt mending ngocok aja

kidney shot

[ahrcwks]

^^^^ ya betul find weakness reduce 70% armor bug kluar terus , plusssssss durasi stun rogue yang ngaco, setelah cheap shot 4 sec stun seharusnya kalo di combo kidney hanya 2-3 sec aja, soalnya durasi kidney ikut dikurangi cheap shot, di ampm full cheap shot 4 dtk, kidney tetep bersih 6 dtk + find weakness dah combo mematikan, jadi jangan heran sekali combo gtu darah tinggal setengah atau seprempat, you see now? dan masih plus lagi kidney seharusnya bs 6 dtk stun setelah cd 30 dtk, di ampm cuma cd 20 dtk, see??

jadi croooooooootttttttttt mending ngocok aja

cheap shot ama kidney itu beda kategori diminishing return

Spoiler untuk dr :

Controlled Stun - Bash, Concussion Blow, Deep Freeze, Demon Charge, Gnaw, Holy Wrath, Inferno Effect (Doomguard summon), Hammer of Justice, Intercept (Felguard), Intercept (Warrior), Intimidation, Kidney Shot, Maim, Ravage, Shadowfury, Shockwave, Sonic Blast, War Stomp, Throwdown

Opener Stun - Cheap Shot, Pounce

http://www.wowwiki.com/Diminishing_returns

jd gk ada pengurangan durasi,,,


terakhir kidney shot itu cd ny emang 20 dtk,, situ dapat darimana cd 30 dtk?

kidney shot

utk find weakness, sesudah next maintenan pst lgsg saya fix,, mohon bersabar

[novocaine]

^^^^ waduh GM masih refer ke expired wowwiki itu, itu data jenis DR di wowwiki hanya valid sampai patch 3.3 alias WOTLK, di page bawah patch editnya last cuma 3.3, setelah masuk patch 4.0 alias CATA udah banyak yg berubah, kategori opener stun untuk cheap shot udah removed. cheap shot sekarang udah share DR sama kidney, udah satu kategori jadi controlled stun, nih referencenya

http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=...vp-de-buffs#DR

Spoiler untuk dr :

4.3 Crowd Controls, Dispels, & PvP (de)buffs
[CS] = Controlled Stun
Death Knight Gnaw (Unholy Ghoul)
Druid Mighty Bash Maim Pounce
Hunter Intimidation (Beast Mastery) Sonic Blast (Bat) Sting (Wasp)
Mage Deep Freeze
Paladin Hammer of Justice Denounce
Priest Holy Word: Chastise (Holy)
Rogue Kidney Shot Cheap Shot
Warlock Demonic Leap (Demonology) Shadowfury (Destruction) Axe Toss (Demonology Felguard) Infernal Awakening (Infernal)
Warrior (Spell #85388) (Arms) (Spell #12809) Shockwave (Protection)
Tauren War Stomp

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8380919140

Spoiler untuk dr :

The lists below have been separated out into their specific diminishing returns categories. Each ability shares diminishing returns with the other abilities it has been listed with, and no others.Stuns
Death Knight
Asphyxiate
Gnaw (Ghoul)
Monstrous Blow (Ghoul w/ Dark Transformation active)
Remorseless Winter
Druid
Bear Hug
Maim
Mighty Bash
Pounce
Hunter
Binding Shot
Intimidation
Bad Manner (Monkey pet)
Lullaby (Crane pet)
Petrifying Gaze (Basilisk pet)
Quill (Porcupine pet)
Sting (Wasp pet)
Sonic Blast (Bat pet)
Web Wrap (Shale Spider pet)
Mage
Combustion
Deep Freeze
Monk
Charging Ox Wave
Clash
Fists of Fury
Leg Sweep
Paladin
Blinding Light (Glyphed)
Hammer of Justice
Holy Wrath
Fist of Justice
Rogue
Cheap Shot
Kidney Shot
Shaman
Pulverize (Primal Earth Elemental)
Static Charge (Capacitor Totem)
Warlock
Axe Toss (Felguard)
Shadowfury
Summon Infernal
Warrior
Shockwave
Storm Bolt
Racial
War Stomp

nih forum2nya kalau cheap shot dah shares DR sama kidney sejak cata

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2037774992

Spoiler untuk dr :

Kidney Shot shares a DR (Diminishing Return) with Cheap Shot. This means that when you Cheap Shot, your Kidney Shot will be less effective, unless you let the DR wear off. It's a rather new thing so you might not have experienced it before. It came about in 4.0.1 I think.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1172932158

Spoiler untuk dr :

CS and KS are on the same DR now.
Was changed with Cata.

udah diconfirm juga sama arenajunkies

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/18...eturns-update/

Spoiler untuk dr :

I've just filed through the search function and determined that nobody has updated Diminishing Returns in quite awhile on any of the usual resources.
http://www.wowpedia....nishing_Returns

http://www.wowwiki.c...nishing_returns

Both are only up to date for 3.3, which makes them grossly wrong in many area's. Let's see if we can get a comprehensive list of DR's going for the current game, from which someone can update those resources.

Added abilities (including those moved to a new category) are in green. Outdated abilities are in red.



* Controlled Root - Freeze (Water Elemental), Pin (Crab), Frost Nova, Entangling Roots, Earthgrab (Storm, Earth and Fire), Improved Cone of Cold

* Controlled Stun - Bash, Concussion Blow, Deep Freeze, Demon Charge, Gnaw, Holy Wrath, Inferno Effect (Doomguard summon), Hammer of Justice, Intercept (Felguard), Intercept (Warrior), Intimidation, Kidney Shot, Maim, Ravage, Shadowfury, Shockwave, Sonic Blast, War Stomp, Cheap Shot, Pounce, Charge

* Disarm - Chimera Shot - Scorpid, Disarm, Dismantle, Psychic Horror (Disarm effect), Snatch

* Disorient - Freezing Arrow, Freezing Trap, Gouge, Hex, Hibernate, Hungering Cold, Polymorph, Repentance, Sap, Shackle, Wyvern Sting, Ring of Frost

* Fear - Blind, Fear (Warlock), Howl of Terror, Intimidating Shout, Psychic Scream, Scare Beast, Seduction (Pet), Turn Evil

* Horror - Death Coil, Psychic Horror, Sin and Punishment

* Opener Stun - REMOVED

* Random Root - Shattered Barrier

* Random Stun - Impact, Revenge Stun, Seal of Justice, Stoneclaw Stun, Improved Polymorph

* Silence - Arcane Torrent, Gag Order (Warrior talent), Garrote, Improved Counterspell, Nether Shock, Silencing Shot, Improved Kick, Shield of the Templar, Silence (Priest), Spell Lock, Strangulate

* Taunt - Angered Earth, Challenging Howl, Challenging Roar, Challenging Shout, Dark Command, Death Grip, Distracting Shot, Growl (Druid), Hand of Reckoning, Mocking Blow, Righteous Defense, Taunt (Pet),Taunt (Warrior)

* NEW - Dragon's Breath, Scatter Shot
[/B]

soal CD kidney 30dtk itu, maksudnya bukan CDnya, tapi DR nya, upss iya 30sec lebay ignore it, coba ditest setelah masuk kidney 6 sec, begitu cd 20 sec, langsung kidney lagi, cek kena DR apa ngga, seharusnya kena DR karena stun kidney 6 dtk + 20dtk cd masih range DR, harusnya gak langsung 6 dtk lagi, DR dihitung 15dtk sejak efek stun ilang,


ya itu find weakness jg mohon difix, jgn lupa ya cheap shot shares DR sama kidney sejak patch 4.0, jadi harusnya setelah cheapt shot 4 dtk, kidney mestinya cuman 3 dtk meski 5 combo (DR 50% duration)

[ahrcwks]

^^^^ waduh GM masih refer ke expired wowwiki itu, itu data jenis DR di wowwiki hanya valid sampai patch 3.3 alias WOTLK, di page bawah patch editnya last cuma 3.3, setelah masuk patch 4.0 alias CATA udah banyak yg berubah, kategori opener stun untuk cheap shot udah removed. cheap shot sekarang udah share DR sama kidney, udah satu kategori jadi controlled stun, nih referencenya

http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=...vp-de-buffs#DR

Spoiler untuk dr :

4.3 Crowd Controls, Dispels, & PvP (de)buffs
[CS] = Controlled Stun
Death Knight Gnaw (Unholy Ghoul)
Druid Mighty Bash Maim Pounce
Hunter Intimidation (Beast Mastery) Sonic Blast (Bat) Sting (Wasp)
Mage Deep Freeze
Paladin Hammer of Justice Denounce
Priest Holy Word: Chastise (Holy)
Rogue Kidney Shot Cheap Shot
Warlock Demonic Leap (Demonology) Shadowfury (Destruction) Axe Toss (Demonology Felguard) Infernal Awakening (Infernal)
Warrior (Spell #85388) (Arms) (Spell #12809) Shockwave (Protection)
Tauren War Stomp

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8380919140

Spoiler untuk dr :

The lists below have been separated out into their specific diminishing returns categories. Each ability shares diminishing returns with the other abilities it has been listed with, and no others.Stuns
Death Knight
Asphyxiate
Gnaw (Ghoul)
Monstrous Blow (Ghoul w/ Dark Transformation active)
Remorseless Winter
Druid
Bear Hug
Maim
Mighty Bash
Pounce
Hunter
Binding Shot
Intimidation
Bad Manner (Monkey pet)
Lullaby (Crane pet)
Petrifying Gaze (Basilisk pet)
Quill (Porcupine pet)
Sting (Wasp pet)
Sonic Blast (Bat pet)
Web Wrap (Shale Spider pet)
Mage
Combustion
Deep Freeze
Monk
Charging Ox Wave
Clash
Fists of Fury
Leg Sweep
Paladin
Blinding Light (Glyphed)
Hammer of Justice
Holy Wrath
Fist of Justice
Rogue
Cheap Shot
Kidney Shot
Shaman
Pulverize (Primal Earth Elemental)
Static Charge (Capacitor Totem)
Warlock
Axe Toss (Felguard)
Shadowfury
Summon Infernal
Warrior
Shockwave
Storm Bolt
Racial
War Stomp

nih forum2nya kalau cheap shot dah shares DR sama kidney sejak cata

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2037774992

Spoiler untuk dr :

Kidney Shot shares a DR (Diminishing Return) with Cheap Shot. This means that when you Cheap Shot, your Kidney Shot will be less effective, unless you let the DR wear off. It's a rather new thing so you might not have experienced it before. It came about in 4.0.1 I think.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1172932158

Spoiler untuk dr :

CS and KS are on the same DR now.
Was changed with Cata.

udah diconfirm juga sama arenajunkies

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/18...eturns-update/

Spoiler untuk dr :

I've just filed through the search function and determined that nobody has updated Diminishing Returns in quite awhile on any of the usual resources.
http://www.wowpedia....nishing_Returns

http://www.wowwiki.c...nishing_returns

Both are only up to date for 3.3, which makes them grossly wrong in many area's. Let's see if we can get a comprehensive list of DR's going for the current game, from which someone can update those resources.

Added abilities (including those moved to a new category) are in green. Outdated abilities are in red.



* Controlled Root - Freeze (Water Elemental), Pin (Crab), Frost Nova, Entangling Roots, Earthgrab (Storm, Earth and Fire), Improved Cone of Cold

* Controlled Stun - Bash, Concussion Blow, Deep Freeze, Demon Charge, Gnaw, Holy Wrath, Inferno Effect (Doomguard summon), Hammer of Justice, Intercept (Felguard), Intercept (Warrior), Intimidation, Kidney Shot, Maim, Ravage, Shadowfury, Shockwave, Sonic Blast, War Stomp, Cheap Shot, Pounce, Charge

* Disarm - Chimera Shot - Scorpid, Disarm, Dismantle, Psychic Horror (Disarm effect), Snatch

* Disorient - Freezing Arrow, Freezing Trap, Gouge, Hex, Hibernate, Hungering Cold, Polymorph, Repentance, Sap, Shackle, Wyvern Sting, Ring of Frost

* Fear - Blind, Fear (Warlock), Howl of Terror, Intimidating Shout, Psychic Scream, Scare Beast, Seduction (Pet), Turn Evil

* Horror - Death Coil, Psychic Horror, Sin and Punishment

* Opener Stun - REMOVED

* Random Root - Shattered Barrier

* Random Stun - Impact, Revenge Stun, Seal of Justice, Stoneclaw Stun, Improved Polymorph

* Silence - Arcane Torrent, Gag Order (Warrior talent), Garrote, Improved Counterspell, Nether Shock, Silencing Shot, Improved Kick, Shield of the Templar, Silence (Priest), Spell Lock, Strangulate

* Taunt - Angered Earth, Challenging Howl, Challenging Roar, Challenging Shout, Dark Command, Death Grip, Distracting Shot, Growl (Druid), Hand of Reckoning, Mocking Blow, Righteous Defense, Taunt (Pet),Taunt (Warrior)

* NEW - Dragon's Breath, Scatter Shot
[/B]

soal CD kidney 30dtk itu, maksudnya bukan CDnya, tapi DR nya, upss iya 30sec lebay ignore it, coba ditest setelah masuk kidney 6 sec, begitu cd 20 sec, langsung kidney lagi, cek kena DR apa ngga, seharusnya kena DR karena stun kidney 6 dtk + 20dtk cd masih range DR, harusnya gak langsung 6 dtk lagi, DR dihitung 15dtk sejak efek stun ilang,


ya itu find weakness jg mohon difix, jgn lupa ya cheap shot shares DR sama kidney sejak patch 4.0, jadi harusnya setelah cheapt shot 4 dtk, kidney mestinya cuman 3 dtk meski 5 combo (DR 50% duration)

nah ini yg gw suka punya referensi jelas,,, oke masuk fix list gw,,