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    @bluedarknezz
    mmm, FoK dmg based spell g bakal ngepick invisible units. Mjolnirr? Rasanya kaga >.< Soalnya basis spellnya dari Forked Lightning.
    Forked Lightning? bukannya itu basisnya sama kyk skill tiny ama spectre yg dispersion dolo yah? (throw Storm bolt to aoe and deals stun) CMIIW

    Echo slam ama Scream of pain ga bisa pick invisible unit kok --"
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    mmm kagak tau si, cuma ada batas unit yang bisa kena Static Charge, jadinya wa pikir itu forked lightning.
    ew, sapa bilang echo ma scream bisa pick invis? wa bilang, sekali di pick sama engine, u g bs hindarin damagenya. Yang paling kliatan jelas itu Death Pulse. Boleh deh dicoba, u deket2 ama Weaver n cast DP, trus pake shukuchi menghindar agak jauh. Abis itu tungguin projectilnya mendekat, lalu cast shukuchi lagi, tapi gesernya dikit aja. U tetep kena dmgnya.

    @endless
    wakaw, kayaknya dah ngerti de >.< tapi baru tebakan siii.... wkwkwk

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    @^

    hehehe... udah tau ya ^^

    klo gitu gw kasi yg laen dah, PL yg punya Magic Immune ga bakal bisa bikin image pake Juxtapose...

    sama kasusnya juga buat Blood, Thirst ga bakal trigger klo punya Magic Immune...

    "Why ?"

    klo buat si Asquall sih kayanya ga butuh clue ya


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    dummy unit heal strygwyr, dummy unit use wand of illusion.....

    asquall dah pernah liat thread ini gk?
    http://www.indogamers.com/f353/glitch-43741/

    mungkin bisa terinspirasi
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    Chronosphere stops everything in it’s area, including tower, but not successfull channeling skill like epicenter (Sand King stops but epicenter still ***** you!!). Pudge meat hook also can save you if you trapped in Chronosphere.
    Have you try vendetta then you want to hit any hero but you cancel it and damage doesn’t released even though you’re not invisible again. Vendetta has a very little seconds delay before critical hit, maybe 0.1 second before you show up yourself and critical damage released.
    Animation Cancelling will makes you save your time up to 0.5 sec for every attack you do. Animation cancelling not only affect orb base attack, but also normal attack.Do this trick when you chasing someone, when harassing enemy by normal attack, or attacking tower.
    diambil dari website kk gw ^^

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    @endless
    baru dugaan kk >.<

    @CL
    koq strygwyr nya pake heal segala? kan thirst, bukan bloodbath... -.-"
    klo jux emang udah kepikiran wand of illusion^^

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    buat PL emank ada dummy unit yg cast Wand of Illusion...

    klo buat Blood, dummy unit-nya cast Bloodlust


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    weh, tapi juga ada triggernya kan? harusnya trigger kagak keblock kan? trigger yang share vision.

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    iya juga sih...

    yg trigger duluan yg share vision...

    klo di AoE-nya ada unit yg HP-nya dibawah 40%, bakal ada dummy unit yg cast Bloodlust...


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    wogh,,
    ini pembicaraan apa,,
    ga ngerti sama sekali,,
    kalo pngen tau mekanik na blajar kmana c??
    apa harus jgo map editor dlu??

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    @^

    regis aja di DotA-Allstars trus ubek" dah bagian Mechanics, ato klo ngga di DotA Portal, cari bagian FAQ...

    ga harus pinter Map Editor sih, yg penting rajin aja baca", tp emank sih enaknya klo bisa langsung ubek" Map-nya trus liat" trigger skillnya

    Edited : dapet lg nih ^^

    damage dari Shukuchi ama Poison Nova tuh Base Spellnya sama (Phoenix Fire)

    Weaver + Venomancer = Bad
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    Bukan Share Vision itu
    kayaknya bikin dummy yang punya visibility berkali2 di tempat targetnya itu, ato open visibility dgn radius brp gt
    belum cek sih

    yang pasti bukan Share Vision

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    ngga kok bener share vision...

    Strygwyr's Thirst (A0I8)
    Based on Evasion (0%).

    When the skill is first learnt, save "Hero" to the cache and start a periodic timer every 0.5 seconds.

    When it times out, it recovers "Hero" from the cache, make GlobalVariableBoolean (01II) as false then count every enemy hero unit in the map and for each unit it does the following: if "Hero" doesn't have Thirst learnt or is dead, then make the unit unshare vision. If that's false and the distance between EnumUnit and "Hero" (from now on just Distance) is bigger or equal than 1500*Thirstlvl or Distance is lower than 1500*ThirstLvl and the EnumUnit life percent is bigger than 40 then make the unit unshare the vision. If the Distance is lower than 1500*Thirstlvl and the EnumUnit's life percent is lower or equal than 40, make the unit share vision with Strygwyr's Owner and set GlobalVariableBoolean to true. After doing everyone on the group, if the Boolean is true then: create a dummy unit (e00E) on Strygwyr's position, add a Bloodlust ability (A0LG) with level equal to Thirst's level to it and tell it to use it on Strygwyr. If the Boolean was false, then make Strygwyr lose the Thirst buff (B05R).

    The bloodlust lasts for 30 seconds, and gives 0.11/0.22/0.33/0.44 movement speed.
    copas dari guidenya Tales


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    Share Vision? Kalo Share Vision kan jadi keliatan dong unit lain yang dia/alliesnya punya? (Courier, creeps dkk)

    ... CMIIW ...

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    nah itu yang wa pikirin >.<

    EDIT: setelah wa baca2, ternyata yang dilakuin triggernya > share unit's vision, bukan share player's vision.

    EDIT2: Daripada double-post, saya tulis ini di sini :P Untuk next interesting fact, saya bikin agak quiz >.<
    Q : Hanya ada satu hero di dota yang sama sekali tidak bisa menghindari skill Last Word dari Silencer. Siapakah dia?
    Hint : untuk menghindari Last Word, harus menggunakan teknik animation canceling^^

    EDIT3 (weleh) : btw, endl3ss, yang soal Shukuchi n Poison Nova, udah taw si... Cuma yang bikin heran, apa Shukuchi menggunakan trigger lagi untuk kill unit? Soalnya setau wa Phoenix Fire g bs kill, cuma reduce ampe 1 hp doank. Mungkin juga cuma buffnya...

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