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    Default [ASK] Palret + DBW kenapa kok banyak yang bilang NO ke situ??

    ga perna punya dbw, tapi sebagai pemakai palret saya tergiur sama proc DBW ini...

    -Strength of the Vrykul
    Granted 700 strength - Vrykul. (+1400 attack power)


    -Agility of the Wolvar
    Granted 700 agility - Wolvar. (+ haste rating<ga tau berapa>)

    -Power of the Taunka
    Granted 1400 attack power - Taunka. (+ attack power lagi)

    -Precision of the Iron Dwarves
    Granted 700 armor penetration rating - Iron Dwarf. (+ arpen... errr kurang guna sih buat pally...)

    -Aim of the Tuskarr
    Granted 700 critical strike - Tuskarr. (+ critical strike... wow punya ini)


    -Speed of the Gorloc
    Granted 700 haste rating - Gorloc. (+haste WOW)



    dan setelah saya baca lagi ternyata buat class pally yang proc cuma yang di bold
    jadi pertanyaan saya, kenapa banyak pally yang diketawain kalo pake dbw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deardevil View Post
    karena emang DBW itu bukan yg terbaik buat palret

    Best Retri Pally Trinket
    1. [Tiny Abomination in a Jar Heroic]
    2. [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]
    3. [Death's ChoiceHeroic]
    4. [Whispering Fanged Skull Heroic]
    5. [Death's Choice]
    6. [Deathbringer's Will Heroic]
    7. [Whispering Fanged Skull]
    8. [Herkuml's War Token]
    9. [Deathbringer's Will]
    10. [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]


    dengan pasif stat yg menurut gw ngga banget, terus proc yg tidak menentu dengan icd yg cukup lama
    dan yg penting banyak class lain yg lebih membutuhkan DBW


    *ralat dikit yg diatas itu proc DBW Heroic
    dopost.... dan lagi2 di atasnya previous post

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    karena emang DBW itu bukan yg terbaik buat palret

    Best Retri Pally Trinket
    1. [Tiny Abomination in a Jar Heroic]
    2. [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]
    3. [Death's ChoiceHeroic]
    4. [Whispering Fanged Skull Heroic]
    5. [Death's Choice]
    6. [Deathbringer's Will Heroic]
    7. [Whispering Fanged Skull]
    8. [Herkuml's War Token]
    9. [Deathbringer's Will]
    10. [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]


    dengan pasif stat yg menurut gw ngga banget, terus proc yg tidak menentu dengan icd yg cukup lama
    dan yg penting banyak class lain yg lebih membutuhkan DBW


    *ralat dikit yg diatas itu proc DBW Heroic

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    Quote Originally Posted by deardevil View Post
    karena emang DBW itu bukan yg terbaik buat palret

    Best Retri Pally Trinket
    1. [Tiny Abomination in a Jar Heroic]
    2. [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]
    3. [Death's ChoiceHeroic]
    4. [Whispering Fanged Skull Heroic]
    5. [Death's Choice]
    6. [Deathbringer's Will Heroic]
    7. [Whispering Fanged Skull]
    8. [Herkuml's War Token]
    9. [Deathbringer's Will]
    10. [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]


    dengan pasif stat yg menurut gw ngga banget, terus proc yg tidak menentu dengan icd yg cukup lama
    dan yg penting banyak class lain yg lebih membutuhkan DBW


    *ralat dikit yg diatas itu proc DBW Heroic
    errr ya itu heroic.. yang normal itu 600-an statnya

    hmm... btw itu kok bagusan death's choice H ya?? padahal statsnya cuma 288 ap, trus procnya cuma 510 str/agi... dibawahnya dbw..(167 crit, + proc 700 haste/crit ato 1400 ap)
    rasanya kok bagusan whispering fanged skull daripada death's choice

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    DBW soalnya proc nya ga stabil, cmn str yg paling bagus, klo trinket2 laen mu ada di bawah dbw knapa ga pake dbw aja...
    DBW bukan 167 crit, itu stat udah cata yg crit, stat skrng nambah armor penetration
    arpen cmn berpengaruh di sktr 30-40% damage (dari melee attack, divine storm, dan crusader strike)
    eh btw poisonnya rogue, disease+spell DK, dan arcane shot+serpent sting+chimera shot hunter ngasih damage brp % total damage biasanya? ga di pengaruhi arpen kan skill2 itu

    soal DC dan WFS, DC normal nambah 450 str, wfs nambah 1100 AP
    build normal retri ada divine strength (15% str) terus kan pasti ada buff blessing of kings (10% stat), terus karena 1 str = 2 AP
    jadi 450 str = 450*1.15*1.1*2 = 1138.5
    pasif nya kurang lebih sama (bagus DC dikit sih menurutku)

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    arcane shot hunter itu sendiri udah ignore armor, makanya kalo ada sunder lebih baik gak pake arcane shot. Jadi damage hunter yg ngaruh arpen itu Autoshot + Steady (makanya saya maen softcap arpen dan haste biar enak spam steady shotnya)

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    Palret ??? DBW??? ga deh!!,,buat apaa????
    mending tiny sama WFS

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    harus nya mending tiny ama MoT....
    berhubung MoT nya dah ga ngebug ganti WFS aja deh

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    death verdict + wfs aja
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    kalo saya mending DV/DC atau DMC:G aja...selain emang gak ada ArPen, yang proc itu jelas...STR! partner nya....WFS atau Tiny...MAKNYUS!

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    armor penet kurang berguna di palret

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    wow DBW msi diatas greatness embat ah dbw

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumine99 View Post
    ga perna punya dbw, tapi sebagai pemakai palret saya tergiur sama proc DBW ini...

    -Strength of the Vrykul
    Granted 700 strength - Vrykul. (+1400 attack power)


    -Agility of the Wolvar
    Granted 700 agility - Wolvar. (+ haste rating<ga tau berapa>)

    -Power of the Taunka
    Granted 1400 attack power - Taunka. (+ attack power lagi)

    -Precision of the Iron Dwarves
    Granted 700 armor penetration rating - Iron Dwarf. (+ arpen... errr kurang guna sih buat pally...)

    -Aim of the Tuskarr
    Granted 700 critical strike - Tuskarr. (+ critical strike... wow punya ini)


    -Speed of the Gorloc
    Granted 700 haste rating - Gorloc. (+haste WOW)



    dan setelah saya baca lagi ternyata buat class pally yang proc cuma yang di bold
    jadi pertanyaan saya, kenapa banyak pally yang diketawain kalo pake dbw?
    ini...dbw cataclysm ya..??

    kok beda ama dbw di ampm setau gw...

    edit:

    baru baca post deardevil..

    jd itu proc nya dbw heroic?
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    Whispering Fanged Skull : 15sec duration, 45sec internal cooldown.
    Deathbringer's Will : 30s Duration, 55sec internal cooldown.

    walaupun Arp benefitnya kecil di pally, tapi benefit proc ratenya lebih besar DBW. jadi gw setuju2 pally pake dbw, search youtube cari ret dps heroic 3.3.5, hampir semua pally pake dbw..

    Spoiler untuk U :
    MAD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanvial View Post
    DBW soalnya proc nya ga stabil, cmn str yg paling bagus, klo trinket2 laen mu ada di bawah dbw knapa ga pake dbw aja...
    DBW bukan 167 crit, itu stat udah cata yg crit, stat skrng nambah armor penetration
    arpen cmn berpengaruh di sktr 30-40% damage (dari melee attack, divine storm, dan crusader strike)
    eh btw poisonnya rogue, disease+spell DK, dan arcane shot+serpent sting+chimera shot hunter ngasih damage brp % total damage biasanya? ga di pengaruhi arpen kan skill2 itu

    soal DC dan WFS, DC normal nambah 450 str, wfs nambah 1100 AP
    build normal retri ada divine strength (15% str) terus kan pasti ada buff blessing of kings (10% stat), terus karena 1 str = 2 AP
    jadi 450 str = 450*1.15*1.1*2 = 1138.5
    pasif nya kurang lebih sama (bagus DC dikit sih menurutku)
    hmm.. haste bukannya bagus jg ya kalo buat palret??? makin cepet gebuknya makin sakit kan??? seal of truth(wew lupa kalo di 3.3.5 apa namanya) kan makin stacknya banyak makin sakit...


    Quote Originally Posted by papepape View Post
    Whispering Fanged Skull : 15sec duration, 45sec internal cooldown.
    Deathbringer's Will : 30s Duration, 55sec internal cooldown.

    walaupun Arp benefitnya kecil di pally, tapi benefit proc ratenya lebih besar DBW. jadi gw setuju2 pally pake dbw, search youtube cari ret dps heroic 3.3.5, hampir semua pally pake dbw..

    Spoiler untuk U :
    MAD?
    eh yang bener DBW internal cooldownnya 55 sec??? kalo itu sih wow banget rasanya..
    o ya tiny itu kalo lagi proc, sealnya itu full damage ato 50% dan kita dapet mote of angernya ada icd nya ga??(shadowmourne kan ada icd 2 dtk kalo ga salah)

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